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None of the silver will win, all will be available below RRP in the coming months.
Generally, 5 oz silver has been a consistent loser in recent times, even with tiny mintages.

Good to read this and hope something comes of it. I've expressed my own thoughts on this subject in other threads so won't dwell too much on it but I do very much see what they're doing as just taking advantage of those who don't know better and do feel it is wrong.

As for this coin I'm very glad we've reached a point where I could completely lose track of these releases, not get up early, not queue yet still get the 2oz silver to keep my Great Engravers set going. No stress.

M'ah not really arsed about this one to be fair.
G&D design is not in the least bit rare plus RRP price, cost of living, near ATH gold prices, last GE launch being luke warm at best. 
I may be proven wrong but happy to let this pass today

LOL INTERNAL ERROR ALL ITMES GONE OUT OF BASKET AND CANT PAY !!!!!!!!
GOT TO LOVE THE RM

Don’t think it will crash and burn but I don’t believe this will be a huge flipping opportunity either. Definitely a coin for the collectors with the potential of a small rise on RRP if the mintage is low.
My logic for this is pretty simple, Una at PF70 was going for £5k+ for the 2oz silver but that didn’t out value the original coins (obviously wasn’t even close). You can get an 1818 - 1820 crown in high grade from £1k and certainly a top example for £5k. I can’t see anybody paying silly amounts of money for a 2024 coin when you can buy an original example.
I am excited for this coin, will be interesting to see what RM have done with the design but if you buy as a collector then regardless of the secondary market you’ll be happy. How many of us received the Gothic Crown Reverse and thought this is a true work of art and RM had done an amazing job only for the secondary market to not really appreciate this design for numerous reasons.

Unless you bank with nationwide and you can do all the checks and then they still block your card when you try to pay.. not always.. just sometimes. It’s part of the fun 😭😭. 

How many George and Dragons do we need?
There are millions and millions of them on millions and millions of coins
This release is going to crash and burn.
Strictly for the collector, this will not be an investment opportunity. IMHO
 

The more I look at the una and the lion the worse it gets! What a terrible design. That face is a mess, looks like it has been melted!
 
 The una bar they did a few years ago was a stunner, this is garbage and I suspect the rest of the range will be the same

Speak for yourself and the other peasants 🤣

Of course the sales people would be saying that!

The drawing is so beautiful but the design on the bar is horrible. The face of Una is like a bodybuilder on steroids and the Lion seems like missing its lower jaw.. similar with the bad face they gave to proof Britannias in 2023.. i hope they fix this and make it as the drawing..

I don't bother reading such rubbish what people write. Cancer has no colours as they say. It could easily be them , tomorrow, next week, next year .  Not something to really laugh about.  

The drawing is so beautiful but the design on the bar is horrible. The face of Una is like a bodybuilder on steroids and the Lion seems like missing its lower jaw.. similar with the bad face they gave to proof Britannias in 2023.. i hope they fix this and make it as the drawing..

The drawing is so beautiful but the design on the bar is horrible. The face of Una is like a bodybuilder on steroids and the Lion seems like missing its lower jaw.. similar with the bad face they gave to proof Britannias in 2023.. i hope they fix this and make it as the drawing..

2023 KCIII King's Cornonation

Have not seen sell at auction yet 
But i would say £3300-£3500 would be a rough guess-timate 

If im buying = £spot 
If im selling = £10,000

They will ALWAYS have a historical significance, the Coronation will only happen once in a monarchs reign and given that and very small mintages for the gold, it is the sort of coin that would only get sold in case of a dire emergency, not one to be routinely flipped out. 
i.e. A krugerrand would be sold sold out to replace the boiler, not this one    
I would assume that those holding the gold, most wont have any plans to sell on and will be holding for the long term if they are true collectors
I would personally try to get one of each if budget allows over the next year or two.  Once you have both together especially if both in PF70 plastic coffins.  In a few decades time in a "premier" auction sale, sold at as pair would appeal to those with big pockets  

The drawing is so beautiful but the design on the bar is horrible. The face of Una is like a bodybuilder on steroids and the Lion seems like missing its lower jaw.. similar with the bad face they gave to proof Britannias in 2023.. i hope they fix this and make it as the drawing..

The new improved version of the George & Dragon certainly looks superb on the ‘toned’ 1818 Crown. Here’s mine (I wish!)
Yesterday, walked around the site of the Tower Mint which stopped minting sovereigns in 1975. This is where Pistrucci would have worked, having made the 3 mile journey from his hotel in Leicester Sq. The magnificent Georgian frontage, a grade 2 listed building can be seen through the railings. Most of my sovereigns were minted there!
However, the whole compound we walked round was boarded up, and not open to the public. 
 
In 2018, the Chinese government bought the site for £255 Million with the intention of relocating their Embassy there. This was however opposed by the locals and Tower Hamlets Borough. The embassy would have been the largest in Europe. Protest groups such as Tibetans whose country was invaded and annexed in 1959, Hong Kong, and Muslim Uyghur and other Human rights groups played their part in affecting the result - thus stalemate! The development group Delaney were upset but the Chinese were furious not to get their way😀 However, the iconic position of this land probably means that it’s now worth mega millions more should the Chinese sell.
Anyway, politics aside it was a worthwhile visit. Somewhere inside was the Rothschild refinery, but remained hidden from view…

I’m a bit suspicious of the above, despite the accurate ‘blurb’ The obverse is OK, but the G&D is something a marketing company would do. If genuine, this would be unique….
Photo shows the original holding a broken spear handle, followed by the first GIV ‘sword in hand’ image which started in 1821, the RMs 2017 proof version, and a mini G&D on the Victorian silver half crown!
Banknotes also carried the G&D. This one from 1958 is a ‘Fiver’!

I love the religious aspects behind the design, and interestingly, the Petition Crown also had a teeny tiny St. George and Dragon at its center.

There is so much to religious  iconography of St George Slaying the Dragon that most overlook or meanings or get lost overtime,  Ascalon, the holy sword that becomes a spear is named after the city of  Ashkelon in modern Isreal is only one element of this highly religious symbol.  
We have a Sword/spear named after a city in Isreal, a Turkish solider who was martyred for his religious beliefs , and theres other religious symbolic elements that I dare not say what they actually mean to some faiths.   
The "sprit" of St  George, is used in many European faiths and religions, I have researched the myth and the man for years.    The earliest depiction of St George I have seen with my own eyes dates back to around 400-700 AD, a burial shroud made by the coptic christians.  St George was put to death in 303 AD so it would make it one of the earliest depictions there is.      
Theres all sorts of interesting references of St George the military saint  in the crusades  and of course the battle of Agincourt.