Richym99

Today I received an email off Louise at CoTR with the results of grading submissions. 
I really needed a lift having been unwell for a couple of weeks. This did the trick.
1930 sa mint sovereign   ------AU58 2018 India sovereign -------MS70 DPL 2019 India sovereign -------MS70 DPL 2000 proof sovereign --------PF70 UCAM 2007 proof sovereign  -----PF70 UCAM 2006 proof sovereign ----PF69 UCAM 2001 proof sovereign ---PF70 UCAM 2003 proof sovereign ----PF70 UCAM      

Today I received an email off Louise at CoTR with the results of grading submissions. 
I really needed a lift having been unwell for a couple of weeks. This did the trick.
1930 sa mint sovereign   ------AU58 2018 India sovereign -------MS70 DPL 2019 India sovereign -------MS70 DPL 2000 proof sovereign --------PF70 UCAM 2007 proof sovereign  -----PF70 UCAM 2006 proof sovereign ----PF69 UCAM 2001 proof sovereign ---PF70 UCAM 2003 proof sovereign ----PF70 UCAM      

So Mr Heath Robonson came out to play today, and I knocked up an axial rig out of scrap timber and a photo frame, plus a couple of other bits and bobs.
The camera is a Nikon P900, which isn't a DSLR but has a macro facility and an extraordinary zoom lens.
Just tried two today to experiment, the 1857 Shield, which is my oldest sovererign and has a fair few dings and knocks in it, and the 2007 Proof Sovereign I bought of @ChardsCoinandBullionDealera couple of weeks ago. Since I was copying their rig, thought it appropriate.
These were the results:.
 

 
 

Another two beautiful sovereigns  dropped through the letterbox this morning.
The 2017 Delhi sovereign, which is magnificent. I have promised to keep the source anonymous and will always do so. I do love the modern Delhi sovereigns because they are still using the original gold composition of "yellow" gold, not the rose gold the RM is usings these days. Much more attractive on the eye even when viewed through the tamperproof packaging.
The second is a 1931P picked up from a French company via MA Shops. Another off for grading sometime next week.

Received only a few minutes ago from @drakesterlingwho kindly sourced one for me. Until two weeks ago, I had no idea there was a 2020 version, as no images existed on the net. I wonder how many exist outside of the Indian subcontinent.   

Looking at the results from yesterdays three auctions, there is a striking difference between the results of the two Coin Cabinet auctions, and the CoR auction which was sandwiched in between.  

That's where due diligence comes in. At the very least the bar code should be checked against image of the coin on the NGC/PCGS website. If that doesn't correspond, it should be reported. 

Nobody forces anyone to buy slabbed coins. There are plenty of outlets selling raw coins as well. As you say, however, Caveat Emptor. You only have to look at the number of threads in these very forums started by individuals who have bought or thinking of buying coins that they are having doubts about authenticity. Then you have the other side, where someone will post a photo of a coin and ask for an opinion on it's grade, only to be told it is not possible to reliably judge from a photo. But isn't that what you do when you buy a raw coin online. You look at a photo and make a judgement whether it is worth what you are being asked to pay for it. 
At least with slabbed coins, you are buying something which is 99.9% guaranteed genuine and is of known quality, which you can then compare for value to similar quality coins.  

Another two beautiful sovereigns  dropped through the letterbox this morning.
The 2017 Delhi sovereign, which is magnificent. I have promised to keep the source anonymous and will always do so. I do love the modern Delhi sovereigns because they are still using the original gold composition of "yellow" gold, not the rose gold the RM is usings these days. Much more attractive on the eye even when viewed through the tamperproof packaging.
The second is a 1931P picked up from a French company via MA Shops. Another off for grading sometime next week.

There are a couple of coins I would only buy slabbed and that’s because I cannot tell if they are counterfeit - notably the US Incuse Indian Heads.  
When gold is on the way down, It does seem to have an effect on auction results - particularly with coins at the lower end of the numismatic scale (not lower scarcity).
My guess is that with multiple auctions, close together there was a lot of choice for a limited market, coupled with a lower gold price.
As for slabbed…some people like slabbed coins and it does make a difference, particularly when buying online and you cannot examine coins yourself to determine a grade.  I find it hard enough judging AU58 or MS61 with a coin in my hand and impossible with photos on a coin auction site!
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Another two beautiful sovereigns  dropped through the letterbox this morning.
The 2017 Delhi sovereign, which is magnificent. I have promised to keep the source anonymous and will always do so. I do love the modern Delhi sovereigns because they are still using the original gold composition of "yellow" gold, not the rose gold the RM is usings these days. Much more attractive on the eye even when viewed through the tamperproof packaging.
The second is a 1931P picked up from a French company via MA Shops. Another off for grading sometime next week.

Received only a few minutes ago from @drakesterlingwho kindly sourced one for me. Until two weeks ago, I had no idea there was a 2020 version, as no images existed on the net. I wonder how many exist outside of the Indian subcontinent.   

Looking at the results from yesterdays three auctions, there is a striking difference between the results of the two Coin Cabinet auctions, and the CoR auction which was sandwiched in between.  

In fairness, MS66 is the highest that a 1957 has been graded, and there are only 6. That commands a high premium in itself
 

Second purchase arrived this morning. Again, posted through the letterbox, no duty to pay.

Received only a few minutes ago from @drakesterlingwho kindly sourced one for me. Until two weeks ago, I had no idea there was a 2020 version, as no images existed on the net. I wonder how many exist outside of the Indian subcontinent.   

I have just paid £422 for a 1930P, albeit MS grade. The grade makes all the difference to the value. 
Of the "small head" George V sovs issued between 1929 and 1931 inc (and 32 in South Africa), the Perth mint coins are either regarded as scarce or rare, whilst the Melbourne coins are even rarer. All the SA dates are common. Sydhey and London did not issue sovereigns in those years.  
Even if you don't want to swing to the expense of a copy of Marsh, I would suggest at least going onto playbooks and buying a downloadable copy of Spink's Coins of  England (Which covers everything from Roman times to 1971 for all denominations)  together with the Decimal version, covering 1971 to the modern day. You will soon get your money back.  

Another two beautiful sovereigns  dropped through the letterbox this morning.
The 2017 Delhi sovereign, which is magnificent. I have promised to keep the source anonymous and will always do so. I do love the modern Delhi sovereigns because they are still using the original gold composition of "yellow" gold, not the rose gold the RM is usings these days. Much more attractive on the eye even when viewed through the tamperproof packaging.
The second is a 1931P picked up from a French company via MA Shops. Another off for grading sometime next week.

Just following you lead really Foster. They are a nicely compact set of ten, which makes collecting them attainable, albeit a little expensive for the Melbournes, but comparable to collecting shields. 

It’s good to see another ‘fan’, is that the right word, of the George V small head variety.
I have 8 of the 10 and I’m still looking to buy the 1929 M and 1931 M. They’re not cheap.
@DukeSilver I’d check all of your sovereigns.
On your original question, I too keep my sovereigns in plastic capsules. Plastic flips are also good but I prefer capsules. It’s much better to keep them in the best condition as possible.

Took me a few minutes to figure why you were selling a 1957 after buying one. 😀  
Nice upgrade Rich

Thanks @SilverMike, lovely Sovereign. 

Beautiful thick boy from @SilverMike
My first piedfort!
Thickness is very cool in person.
I’m obsessed with the 2017s…

Another two beautiful sovereigns  dropped through the letterbox this morning.
The 2017 Delhi sovereign, which is magnificent. I have promised to keep the source anonymous and will always do so. I do love the modern Delhi sovereigns because they are still using the original gold composition of "yellow" gold, not the rose gold the RM is usings these days. Much more attractive on the eye even when viewed through the tamperproof packaging.
The second is a 1931P picked up from a French company via MA Shops. Another off for grading sometime next week.

I will stand corrected, but most outlets for buying coins in bulk, such as bullion dealers, porn brokers etc will expect to buy at two or three percent below spot. They will then go through them and resell the better examples at a premium.
That is where places like this come in. People will snap up reasonable quality sovereigns for £320 day in day out providing they don't have obvious defects like knocks and scratches.
Better look after them and sell 30 on here for £9,600 than not look after them and take £8,760 for them and watch someone else cash in.