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Hello guys I hope that you're well,
I'd just like to inform you that Charterhouse Accountants Ltd (charter-house.net) are currently trying to scam me, after buying a 1 Oz Gold Buffalo on eBay for £1725 delivered.
The eBay user ID used to place the purchase is: and-774142
So those of you who trade on there, will want to block this asap (assuming it's still active).
Five days after receiving the coin, they bypassed eBay and filed a 'transaction not recognised' dispute with their bank.
Once I uploaded proof of dispatch/delivery images to the eBay dispute that automatically opened and put my account in a deficit, I was notified that they'd changed their dispute to 'item not received'.
The 1 Oz Gold Buffalo was delivered to Charterhouse Accounts Ltd address, College Road, Harrow.
I even sent a polite email to their associate director querying this chargeback four days ago, and I phoned their firm last week but have not received any form of correspondence since.

Best,
Al
 

Hello guys I hope that you're well,
I'd just like to inform you that Charterhouse Accountants Ltd (charter-house.net) are currently trying to scam me, after buying a 1 Oz Gold Buffalo on eBay for £1725 delivered.
The eBay user ID used to place the purchase is: and-774142
So those of you who trade on there, will want to block this asap (assuming it's still active).
Five days after receiving the coin, they bypassed eBay and filed a 'transaction not recognised' dispute with their bank.
Once I uploaded proof of dispatch/delivery images to the eBay dispute that automatically opened and put my account in a deficit, I was notified that they'd changed their dispute to 'item not received'.
The 1 Oz Gold Buffalo was delivered to Charterhouse Accounts Ltd address, College Road, Harrow.
I even sent a polite email to their associate director querying this chargeback four days ago, and I phoned their firm last week but have not received any form of correspondence since.

Best,
Al
 

Hello guys I hope that you're well,
I'd just like to inform you that Charterhouse Accountants Ltd (charter-house.net) are currently trying to scam me, after buying a 1 Oz Gold Buffalo on eBay for £1725 delivered.
The eBay user ID used to place the purchase is: and-774142
So those of you who trade on there, will want to block this asap (assuming it's still active).
Five days after receiving the coin, they bypassed eBay and filed a 'transaction not recognised' dispute with their bank.
Once I uploaded proof of dispatch/delivery images to the eBay dispute that automatically opened and put my account in a deficit, I was notified that they'd changed their dispute to 'item not received'.
The 1 Oz Gold Buffalo was delivered to Charterhouse Accounts Ltd address, College Road, Harrow.
I even sent a polite email to their associate director querying this chargeback four days ago, and I phoned their firm last week but have not received any form of correspondence since.

Best,
Al
 

Hello guys I hope that you're well,
I'd just like to inform you that Charterhouse Accountants Ltd (charter-house.net) are currently trying to scam me, after buying a 1 Oz Gold Buffalo on eBay for £1725 delivered.
The eBay user ID used to place the purchase is: and-774142
So those of you who trade on there, will want to block this asap (assuming it's still active).
Five days after receiving the coin, they bypassed eBay and filed a 'transaction not recognised' dispute with their bank.
Once I uploaded proof of dispatch/delivery images to the eBay dispute that automatically opened and put my account in a deficit, I was notified that they'd changed their dispute to 'item not received'.
The 1 Oz Gold Buffalo was delivered to Charterhouse Accounts Ltd address, College Road, Harrow.
I even sent a polite email to their associate director querying this chargeback four days ago, and I phoned their firm last week but have not received any form of correspondence since.

Best,
Al
 

F#cking charlatan expletives. 
 

Hello guys I hope that you're well,
I'd just like to inform you that Charterhouse Accountants Ltd (charter-house.net) are currently trying to scam me, after buying a 1 Oz Gold Buffalo on eBay for £1725 delivered.
The eBay user ID used to place the purchase is: and-774142
So those of you who trade on there, will want to block this asap (assuming it's still active).
Five days after receiving the coin, they bypassed eBay and filed a 'transaction not recognised' dispute with their bank.
Once I uploaded proof of dispatch/delivery images to the eBay dispute that automatically opened and put my account in a deficit, I was notified that they'd changed their dispute to 'item not received'.
The 1 Oz Gold Buffalo was delivered to Charterhouse Accounts Ltd address, College Road, Harrow.
I even sent a polite email to their associate director querying this chargeback four days ago, and I phoned their firm last week but have not received any form of correspondence since.

Best,
Al
 

Yeah the highest I've paid for one is 1600 and i thought that was pricey, (given it's the most i've ever paid for a 1 oz coin). 

No
6% max imho

This is my listing 😉

Trust issues, personally I don't buy high value goods via bank transfer unless it's an in person transaction, on the flip side I won't send goods first, but totally understand their perspective. 

This is my listing 😉

Haha this was my listing, I knew it would garner attention and I rightfully deserved to be clowned for it! 😅
I listed it high just to see what other sellers would ask, then planned to adjust the price accordingly.
I actually sold it last week for BIN £999 +£8.95 delivery 😊

Haha this was my listing, I knew it would garner attention and I rightfully deserved to be clowned for it! 😅
I listed it high just to see what other sellers would ask, then planned to adjust the price accordingly.
I actually sold it last week for BIN £999 +£8.95 delivery 😊

Haha this was my listing, I knew it would garner attention and I rightfully deserved to be clowned for it! 😅
I listed it high just to see what other sellers would ask, then planned to adjust the price accordingly.
I actually sold it last week for BIN £999 +£8.95 delivery 😊

Haha this was my listing, I knew it would garner attention and I rightfully deserved to be clowned for it! 😅
I listed it high just to see what other sellers would ask, then planned to adjust the price accordingly.
I actually sold it last week for BIN £999 +£8.95 delivery 😊

Haha this was my listing, I knew it would garner attention and I rightfully deserved to be clowned for it! 😅
I listed it high just to see what other sellers would ask, then planned to adjust the price accordingly.
I actually sold it last week for BIN £999 +£8.95 delivery 😊

This is my listing 😉

Hey guys!
Just wanted to ask why some people think the 2022 proof sovs will see a significant price appreciation in year's to come?
Here are my counter arguments and why I partly disagree. 
There are more NGC PF 70 graded than PF 69, with close to 400 and God knows how many sitting at NGC waiting to be graded, so like any modern era coin they are commemorative but not exactly scarce. 
It's not the first time there's been an exclusive year design change, for instance just using the 2002 golden Jubilee as an example--Yes, people pay a slight premium but it's really nothing to write home about. 
If some investors/speculators are banking on the "death effect", then i can see the market becoming saturated with everyone and their half cousin putting their 2022 sov proofs up on eBay at the same time when QE passes. 
Just interested to know other people's thoughts 🤔
 
Thanks 

Here are the mintage figures for the special reverse sovereigns + 2016 special obverse:
1989 proof sovereign 23,471 / half 8,888
2002 proof sovereign 20,500 / half 10,000
2005 proof sovereign 15,458 / half 5,011
2012 proof sovereign 8,158 / half 2,303
2016 proof sovereign 7,500 / half 3,675
2017 proof sovereign 10,500 / half 5,150
2022 proof sovereign 13,040 / half 4,310
Source - https://www.bullionbypost.co.uk/info/sovereign-mintages - https://www.royalmint.com/sovereign/2022-three-coin-gold-proof-set/
Ordinarily it would be safe to say that the 2022 will do well, just like all the others. With or without the Queen passing, these will all stand out as special design sovereigns regardless of the commemoration.
That said, if RM were to churn out special designs more frequently, it may take the gloss off the existing ones. At a guess, the next design could be 2026 for the Queens (potentially would-be) 100th birthday. Hopefully there isn't one any sooner than that. Although there's bound to be more SOTD and privy mark versions.
No one has a crystal ball though. Looking at the future plans from the WEF, combined with the state of affairs across the world, who knows what the future market will look like. Maybe we will all be proudly discussing ownership of NFTs instead, sadly.
 

Issue limits + number of collectors will dictate the potential for profit. The 2022 proof sovereign was a very generous issue probably greatly surpassing the number of genuine collectors.
Speculators will dictate if this turns into a money maker or not. All it takes is for public perception to be manipulated into believing 7.3g of gold formed into a disc in 2022 is the next best thing... 
Very long term - who knows ? Maybe when coinage has become obsolete then another generation of collectors will be crying out for shiny metal discs. Alternatively they may view all coins a bit like we now view shells 😁

I've graded both of my 2022 full & half proof sovereigns. NGC graded PF70 and I can tell you first hand that I'm not letting them go for many years till after retirement. I keep the slabbed coins packed with their original boxes, capsules and CoA's as that's what I consider a complete set. What you'll see in the first year or two is a great rush, coins changing hands and being flipped for a quick pop but long term is anyone's guess when the majority fall into to strong hands. Impossible to predict what'll happen in the next 10 - 20 years.
Bear in mind that 1989 is not scare either but prices are nose-bleed territory 33 years later. I saw one sell for £1,575 a couple days ago. People have forgotten that it wasn't a popular proof back in '89 with less sold than the initial planned mintage such was the "revulsion" amongst collectors of the day whom preferred standard St. George.
I'd argue that 2002 proof sovereign prices have been very strong as seen with this latest example on June 3rd and way beyond a "slight premium" and not even graded.
Regular proof sov's have been realising prices between of around £400 (e.g. 2007, 2008, etc) according to the latest Martyn Rowe live auction in which I was participating a couple days ago and a little more on Ebay at around £440-ish. 1990's proofs have been the exception and are achieving really good prices due to low mintages. Spot's just under £360/sov as of 10/06/22.
 

Another interesting angle... The 1989 I believe was only available in proof so anyone who wants it needs to buy proof. The 2022 however is available in bullion down to quarter so size 
 

Hey guys!
Just wanted to ask why some people think the 2022 proof sovs will see a significant price appreciation in year's to come?
Here are my counter arguments and why I partly disagree. 
There are more NGC PF 70 graded than PF 69, with close to 400 and God knows how many sitting at NGC waiting to be graded, so like any modern era coin they are commemorative but not exactly scarce. 
It's not the first time there's been an exclusive year design change, for instance just using the 2002 golden Jubilee as an example--Yes, people pay a slight premium but it's really nothing to write home about. 
If some investors/speculators are banking on the "death effect", then i can see the market becoming saturated with everyone and their half cousin putting their 2022 sov proofs up on eBay at the same time when QE passes. 
Just interested to know other people's thoughts 🤔
 
Thanks