closed Huge discount on Numi collection with bullion/semi numi thrown in at discount: special disposal

[Fishy321]

In if needed 🙂

Maybe someone will buy the lot 

[Fishy321]

Ohh and out of interest from where did you acquire the mysterious 2013 bumblebee it would be a strange one to counterfeit!!! They seem to be 2012 in general hey 

[chris2982]

I think this is a great idea, count me in.

[Gruff]

2 hours ago, bobski said:

Might I suggest @Gruff as the designated organiser? Purely based on his ability to keep us informed who won what in the Christmas draw.

A well trusted and respected member indeed

Thanks Bob, I'm happy to run some spreadsheets and help facilitate. I'm on for the draw of course. However we decide to do this.

[ChrisSilver]

It isn't legal to sell tickets unfortunately (other than registered charities) as otherwise it constitutes as illegal lotteries and is in breach of the gambling commission in the UK. (there are some other exceptions but it is quite complicated) That is why TSF have clear rules on members selling tickets for raffles etc, and why other such topics have been removed. 

Easiest thing would be for a member who can and who is interested to purchase the lot, the total price is less than some spend on a single 1oz gold coin. I had also previously suggested in a private message to @LongJohnSilver about @BackyardBullion's service. Though he wishes to try to sell as a lot here directly. Members can also group together and split amongst themselves if they would like to, but the sale of raffle tickets on TSF unfortunately isn't allowed due to the laws set out in the UK where TSF is currently registered. Thank you for understanding. 

Edit: Another suggestion would be for members to group purchase and then use as FREE Prize Draws for all forum members, not just members who entered the group buy. This would be perfectly legal and acceptable. You would be able to create a topic(s) in the competitions section for this. If agreed you would just need someone to agree to run it, and who would look after the coins etc. And would who take on any possible trade risk. TSF doesn't have the funds to purchase this whole lot, but if this suggestion was implemented by a member and 50-100 or so forum members all grouped together we can also chip in an equal amount to help out.

Or just to simply follow the traditional 'for sale' format as listed by the OP. And those who are interested can make an offer/purchase. 

Edited December 12, 2023 by ChrisSilver

[LongJohnSilver]

Guys , even if it doesntvwork out i really appreciate the thoughts . Like i said im not in a bad place financially, its more about getting rid and having a bit of a jollyband knowing the coins go to someone whonapprecustes them. Especially the clovis set, my favourite of all time . Lets see what happens. Worst comes to worst ill see if i can split into two lots. But id prefer one clean go.

[LongJohnSilver]

I'm happy for any surplus to go to the forum or the winner. My top price is £1375 so no more than that. I really do think think that with time  and effort a seller could double that or at least make 50% 

Edited December 12, 2023 by LongJohnSilver

[silvergaga]

I am in too, I was sleeping.

[theman73]

I'm in 

[monkey]

It seems that the only way a draw could work for this then is (as mentioned by Chris) is that one solid gold trust worthy chap is custodian of a group purchase from LongJohnSilver after taking contributions to buy the listing, and then raffle it to the whole community.

That would mean that members who contribute to the purchase are not guaranteed to receive anything from the draw, however it would mean that LongJohnSilver recives his asking price and is able to ship the bundle in one package which is what the main aim is.

Much trust and community spirit is required for this to happen, other wise it would be other potions already floated. Ether a BYB mediator service or the listing split into two lots making a bit more work for LongJohnSilver.

[LongJohnSilver]

Hi chaps,  fThanks for the suggestion but Ive had a word with myself and can actually work a bit harder myself on this.

I'll leave it a day or so if there are no biters I'll see if I can split into three if that works better for people.

Also, there's suggestion that I send the coins to someone who would be willing to try and sell them and I'd be happy for them to take a commission/expenses if thats ok and above board with the forum..

If its a member I'd happily send all the coins if they agreed to purchase a portion beforehand so no risk to anyone.  If they dont sell then they can always send them back to me.

Let me have a think and i'll see what spits I can manage.

Edited December 12, 2023 by LongJohnSilver

[LongJohnSilver]

Ok i can split as follows of this helps

 

1) 3x pandas ; 4 x horses; covid panda : ruthenium finished panda; ms70 panda: canadian coin thrown in. Thats 10 oz bullion ( some collectible) . Plus i add the blue marble sphere for a total of £425

2) clovis set plus titanic coin £500

3) art of glass plus colloseum plus royal winnipeg ballet in music box £525

Or offers. Same deal , ill post to members then you can pay on receipt

Hopefully, this might make it manageable. If im left with one set of the above i’ll listen to offers. 
 

picture of black/ruthenium silver panda now attached 

ljs 

[Davros006]

I'm in, if cool with Admin.

LJS, you dont need to do more bud...  But up to you.

GLWS.

 

Edited December 12, 2023 by Davros006

[LongJohnSilver]

8 hours ago, Fishy321 said:

Ohh and out of interest from where did you acquire the mysterious 2013 bumblebee it would be a strange one to counterfeit!!! They seem to be 2012 in general hey 

I can rememer, its now bugging me that i may have been ‘had’ . Look at photo below, it feels like its a terrible copy of the glass 2012 version but i agree why?

and what kind of fool would have bought this? Ok ,i plead alcohol!

its got me intrigued though but i cant charge for it until i know its legit. I dont think it is

[arphethean]

I would like to buy batch 1 with the pandas please @LongJohnSilver.

If I can be of some assistance to move on the other things I am happy to put in the effort.

I would also be happy to take everything from you and post things individually on your behalf. I would only charge the buyer the actual Royal Mail price of postage, and all funds for the silver go directly to you. This I can do straight away. I would however leave advertising/listing to you.

If this is of help to you.

If you would prefer me to do a more comprehensive service including communications etc, this would have to wait until mid January as I am busy until then.

Edited December 12, 2023 by arphethean

[arphethean]

I would also be happy to oorganise it as a prize-based community buy since this seems to be very popular if I can get my head around how to do that in a legal way. Again I wouldn't be able to do this until January

[ccfcpaul]

18 minutes ago, arphethean said:

I would also be happy to oorganise it as a prize-based community buy since this seems to be very popular if I can get my head around how to do that in a legal way. Again I wouldn't be able to do this until January

Tickets are bought as donations, the items are given as donations I would presume. Although I am no taxman

Edited December 12, 2023 by ccfcpaul

[AndrewSL76]

18 minutes ago, ccfcpaul said:

Tickets are bought as donations, the items are given as donations I would presume. Although I am no taxman

Good point. However, it is not about tax. It is about gambling licenses. You need a gambling commission licence for this to be legal. This is a really tricky area for charities let alone a profit making company. It is a fantastic suggestion but as Chris has outlined it just is not feasible here. The only way around this is to find someone with a license. 

[Pm1987]

Could a just giving or similar account not be created and then have “a giveaway” to randomly selected people ?

All funds would go directly to LJS and someone post items out ? 

[LongJohnSilver]

Tanks guys,  I appreciate the effort and willingness but I dont want to cause any legal  issues for anyone or for the forum. Im happy to wait a while to see if I can find a biter(s) at a certain price(s). If not, I might start to break the batches up  to see if it helps.

Right now I may have sold batch 1  so I'll post details and offers on the remaining. Im feeling quite energetic today and I have chemo tomorrow.  usually the first five days after chemo are ok before I hit a wall of fatigue for a week so I'll see what I can do.  In the meantime I'll listen to any or all offers, If I dont like it I can always so no.  If there are one or two items left I can always hold my nose and use that famous auction site. I'd rather they go to folk on here though even at a lower price

 

LJS

[ccfcpaul]

by the sounds of it, the only way for it to work would be for every entrant to receive something, Which would effectively be expensive in postage, hard work and not really worth the hassle. Hopefully they all just sell normally once broken down into lots

[LongJohnSilver]

Ive sold batch one Original post now has the prices left for the remaining two, thanks.

 

 

[Nicolaw]

oi dont know LJS but sorry to hear about your situation- fight the good fight:)

my tuppence worth, rev comps do "prize draws" that ask a question.. so maybe we can have a separate listing that asks a question, (what is better silver or gold  ) and everyone who answers the question correct is entered in. revcomps uses what is capital of england... wonder if we can get around it that way....?

[LongJohnSilver]

I doht want to risk any jeopardy for forum. I’ve listed on ebay now but will update (lower) prices on here if noone bites.

 

nobody has a right to buy or sell at their desired level so i’ll let price mechanism do its stuff.

 

Even if i get bullion level i’ll still be able to happily get wasted on the proceeds or put it all on a big  **** off bet 😀

 

thanks for all goid wishes and ideas! Her’s hoping for a miracle and i come on here next year as a buyer ! 
 

 

Edited December 14, 2023 by LongJohnSilver

[bobski]

4 minutes ago, LongJohnSilver said:

I doht want to risk any jeopardy for forum. I’ve listed on ebay now but will update (lower) prices on here if noone bites.

 

nobody has a right to buy or sell at their desired level so i’ll let price mechanism do its stuff.

 

Even if i get bullion level i’ll still be able to happily get wasted on the proceeds or put it all on a big  **** off bet 😀

 

thanks for all goid wishes and ideas! Her’s hoping for a miracle and i come on here next year as a buyer ! 
 

 

Good luck mate. We're all with you