Too good to be true?!

[Rossironworkz]

Firstly, hello TSF, this is my first post, as I am a new member, only started collecting this year, not for me, but for my 5 yr old daughter, to have something when I'm gone.. Anyway, I've seen this seller on ebay pop up a few b. I. N. Offers, which seem.. Well... A bit sus to me! 

Has anyone had any dealings, and if so what was the outcome?.. Plated or solid? 

Thanks for your time and here's to a great future within TSF 👌🍻

[Orpster]

Looks fine to me, that is an auction listing so end price likely to be considerably higher

They have previous feedback for gold sales and no negative feedback - what is it that concerns you about this listing/seller?

[James32]

3 hours ago, Rossironworkz said:

Firstly, hello TSF, this is my first post, as I am a new member, only started collecting this year, not for me, but for my 5 yr old daughter, to have something when I'm gone.. Anyway, I've seen this seller on ebay pop up a few b. I. N. Offers, which seem.. Well... A bit sus to me! 

Has anyone had any dealings, and if so what was the outcome?.. Plated or solid? 

Thanks for your time and here's to a great future within TSF 👌🍻

The most faked carded gold bar in existence unfortunately, Can't possibly tell from the pictures, the packaging looks ok ( could be zoomed in, but they look a little on the thick side to me) 

If you have no way of knowing even when they arrive, stay clear.

You could buy and get them tested inside the ( money back guarantee window)

Like @Orpster says, the price will likely climb closer to auction end. 

 

Edited December 1, 2022 by James32

[Rossironworkz]

Yes, that one is an auction.. I took the wrong screenshot, I'll see if I can find initial post... It was for 5g at £99 buy it now... But as name suggests, its always just a single day deal.. Which, in all honesty, could be a great marketing tool..  But yes, as you say, all feedback is good 🤔.. Maybe I've just got synical in my old age. Lol.. Should just take the leap. 😁👍

[James32]

Just now, Rossironworkz said:

Yes, that one is an auction.. I took the wrong screenshot, I'll see if I can find initial post... It was for 5g at £99 buy it now... But as name suggests, its always just a single day deal.. Which, in all honesty, could be a great marketing tool..  But yes, as you say, all feedback is good 🤔.. Maybe I've just got synical in my old age. Lol.. Should just take the leap. 😁👍

5g at £99? Yeah santa isn't real unfortunately. 

[Rossironworkz]

2 minutes ago, James32 said:

5g at £99? Yeah santa isn't real unfortunately. 

Lol.. My thoughts exactly 🎅😂

[James32]

Just now, Rossironworkz said:

Lol.. My thoughts exactly 🎅😂

Stay clear is my honest opinion. Your heart would never be in it.

[Orpster]

14 minutes ago, Rossironworkz said:

Yes, that one is an auction.. I took the wrong screenshot, I'll see if I can find initial post... It was for 5g at £99 buy it now... But as name suggests, its always just a single day deal.. Which, in all honesty, could be a great marketing tool..  But yes, as you say, all feedback is good 🤔.. Maybe I've just got synical in my old age. Lol.. Should just take the leap. 😁👍

Yes that would be too good to be true, and also taint all their other auctions

As to the one day deals, I often use one or three day auctions, seems to make zero difference to the achieved price from using 7 or 10 day listings

[modofantasma]

15 minutes ago, Rossironworkz said:

Lol.. My thoughts exactly

Sometimes well priced bars here on the forum but Tavex have been getting mentioned a bit recently too. 

[daca]

The bars are fake in my opinion

 

this picture, from ebay, says it all

Edited December 1, 2022 by daca

[SiCole]

I wouldn't even touch those with James' dyson.

[daca]

Don't have a perthmint 5g bar, but i'll post a picture of a 20g for you to compare.

side

 

[James32]

24 minutes ago, daca said:

The bars are fake in my opinion

 

this picture, from ebay, says it all

My thoughts exactly, too thick unless zoomed in by NASA 

[TheShinyStuff]

As already said, there are probably more fakes of these than there are the real thing. Also, nobody, absolutely nobody, sells 5g of gold for £99. You already know its too good to be true!

Spend your money safely here on TSF!

Edit - good stuff stacking for your daughter, one day she will be very, very grateful!

Edited December 1, 2022 by TheShinyStuff

[dicker]

I wouldn’t touch these with a bargepole irrespective of the sellers good reputation.

As has been mentioned above these are heavily counterfeited and the above looks too thick.

Counterfeiters latched onto the packaging lending a veneer of authenticity to fake goods and mass produced them. 

If you are new to collecting start with a dealer or items from this forum.

Best

Dicker

[BackyardBullion]

If it seems too good to be true, it probably is. That's the best check.

[SilverStackingFurry]

Personally I feel the bars in the images look a little off to me and £99 is certainly too good to be true. 

[Zeuk]

The bid price now is more expensive than other brands from real shops, ebay makes no sense.

[Rossironworkz]

14 hours ago, TheShinyStuff said:

As already said, there are probably more fakes of these than there are the real thing. Also, nobody, absolutely nobody, sells 5g of gold for £99. You already know its too good to be true!

Spend your money safely here on TSF!

Edit - good stuff stacking for your daughter, one day she will be very, very grateful!

Yes, I must upgrade myself so that I can get in on the deals here. 👌

And thank you, yes hopefully I can make her financial future a bit less 'worrying' than mine 👍 but at the moment she, as a 6 Yr old girl, absolutely LOOOVVEESSS holding a solid piece of gold or silver, she can't get enough. Lol. 

[Rossironworkz]

14 hours ago, dicker said:

I wouldn’t touch these with a bargepole irrespective of the sellers good reputation.

As has been mentioned above these are heavily counterfeited and the above looks too thick.

Counterfeiters latched onto the packaging lending a veneer of authenticity to fake goods and mass produced them. 

If you are new to collecting start with a dealer or items from this forum.

Best

Dicker

Thank you for your opinion, I think tbh, I'm in the same boat, I am yet to buy anything ( of any value) off of eBay and the like, and as yet, all of my g & s has come from my local shop, but I'm finding it difficult to get bars from him as he doesn't have any or buy any, just rounds, so I'm finding myself heading toward sites like travex and similar. 

[Arganto]

Perth Mint published a very helpful and very in depth guide to spotting the difference between real and counterfeit assay carded bars some years ago. The article featured the older green cards and the more recent black ones and was extremely helpful for me when I was looking at these. Unfortunately they've removed the page, which is silly. I have managed to find a similar article on the wayback machine but this one is much lighter on information and only covers the black cards:

https://web.archive.org/web/20190223040530/http://www.perthmintbullion.com/us/blog/blog/15-05-20/don_t_get_duped_by_fake_minted_bars.aspx

If anyone is interested a bit of digging around may unearth the article in question.