Alarm bells

[arcticfox]

While scrolling for a bargain i have seen quite a few listing including Sov's at very low prices. Now you may get the unknowingly person selling but lots from same seller.

Is it me ? or am I right to be suspicious, If someone on here I'm sorry HAHAHAHA

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/thecoinman1981/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=

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[harrygill111]

The condition of some of these look dogey good too! 

[arcticfox]

3 minutes ago, harrygill111 said:

The condition of some of these look dogey good too! 

The sov's are over 130 years and loom almost mint LOL

[Stacktastic]

Took a chance, thought there might be some pre 47 silver included but only a 1937 and 1932 50% silver 3d. Even postage charge was a rip off with stamp £1 less than charge. My fault, something looks to good to be true then it probably is! OLD BRITISH COINS JOB LOT / TIN OF OLD COLLECTION - BRITISH! (#384513176576)	9***3 (562) £16.00	Past month
Reply by thecoinman1981. Left within past month. To clarify, the description states older British coins including silver, which is exactly what you received. In fact, the postage cost was £3.69 and was sent 1st class, recorded post. Not sure what exactly you expected to receive for £16!

[vicamy]

The seller did mention in description that the lot ‘includes four restrikes / facsimiles’, which in another word means - fake. He did say that in other listings as well. 

[arcticfox]

29 minutes ago, Stacktastic said:

Took a chance, thought there might be some pre 47 silver included but only a 1937 and 1932 50% silver 3d. Even postage charge was a rip off with stamp £1 less than charge. My fault, something looks to good to be true then it probably is! OLD BRITISH COINS JOB LOT / TIN OF OLD COLLECTION - BRITISH! (#384513176576)	9***3 (562) £16.00	Past month
Reply by thecoinman1981. Left within past month. To clarify, the description states older British coins including silver, which is exactly what you received. In fact, the postage cost was £3.69 and was sent 1st class, recorded post. Not sure what exactly you expected to receive for £16!

Well that's a nice response LOL

[LawrenceChard]

5 hours ago, arcticfox said:

While scrolling for a bargain i have seen quite a few listing including Sov's at very low prices. Now you may get the unknowingly person selling but lots from same seller.

Is it me ? or am I right to be suspicious, If someone on here I'm sorry HAHAHAHA

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/thecoinman1981/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=

Ta

J

 

4 hours ago, Stacktastic said:

Took a chance, thought there might be some pre 47 silver included but only a 1937 and 1932 50% silver 3d. Even postage charge was a rip off with stamp £1 less than charge. My fault, something looks to good to be true then it probably is! OLD BRITISH COINS JOB LOT / TIN OF OLD COLLECTION - BRITISH! (#384513176576)	9***3 (562) £16.00	Past month
Reply by thecoinman1981. Left within past month. To clarify, the description states older British coins including silver, which is exactly what you received. In fact, the postage cost was £3.69 and was sent 1st class, recorded post. Not sure what exactly you expected to receive for £16!

What did you expect from someone called:

The Con Man

Robin (Bastard) Joy

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Seriously, he has 18 broadly similar listings, all sprinkled with otherwise valuable restrike fakes conspicuously on the top as sucker bait.

He even states the wrong date for one of his fakes. In this listing 384625029738, he says there is a 1903 KING Edward Sovereign, but the photo shows a 1905!

Most of his fakes can be bought from China for about £2 each including postage, or less in bulk (usually 50 pieces).

[sixgun]

5 hours ago, arcticfox said:

While scrolling for a bargain i have seen quite a few listing including Sov's at very low prices. Now you may get the unknowingly person selling but lots from same seller.

Yeah but the tin isn't included in the sale. That's probably why the prices are so low.

[sixgun]

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Took a chance, thought there might be some pre 47 silver included but only a 1937 and 1932 50% silver 3d. Even postage charge was a rip off with stamp £1 less than charge. My fault, something looks to good to be true then it probably is! OLD BRITISH COINS JOB LOT / TIN OF OLD COLLECTION - BRITISH! (#384513176576)

[harrygill111]

6 minutes ago, sixgun said:

Yeah but the tin isn't included in the sale. That's probably why the prices are so low.

Haha - also the pictures aren't even in a tin, they're in a cardboard box! 

[LawrenceChard]

13 minutes ago, harrygill111 said:

Haha - also the pictures aren't even in a tin, they're in a cardboard box! 

Yes I heard he was targeted by a team of hightly professional burglars who knew exactlly what they were looking for.

 

Only took the tin, left the coins.

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[HerefordBullyun]

Bullion by post are offering a massive 1% off the 2022 sovs - its still not ringing my bell until gold gets monkey hammered some more.

[chrisdobb]

1% off what, where are they starting?

[LawrenceChard]

2 hours ago, HerefordBullyun said:

Bullion by post are offering a massive 1% off the 2022 sovs - its still not ringing my bell until gold gets monkey hammered some more.

That makes their lowest price only about £2 more than a famous Blackpool dealer.

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[HerefordBullyun]

9 minutes ago, LawrenceChard said:

That makes their lowest price only about £2 more than a famous Blackpool dealer.

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I d rather pay the extra with you Mr C, least i know Im going to get decent fish n chips!

[LawrenceChard]

Just now, HerefordBullyun said:

I d rather pay the extra with you Mr C, least i know Im going to get decent fish n chips!

Thanks, but ours are not extra, they are less, on quantity at least.

You save about £2000 if you come and collect 1,000.

Although they are about £1.40 less if you only buy one, but then you might as well buy from Harrington and Byrne.

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[Samcrewsilverlover]

9 hours ago, arcticfox said:

While scrolling for a bargain i have seen quite a few listing including Sov's at very low prices. Now you may get the unknowingly person selling but lots from same seller.

Is it me ? or am I right to be suspicious, If someone on here I'm sorry HAHAHAHA

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/thecoinman1981/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=

Ta

J

These sellers have been doing this for a long time..its a con..they place a few reasonable coins on the top...the rest are c**p....old scam!!

[HerefordBullyun]

1 minute ago, LawrenceChard said:

Thanks, but ours are not extra, they are less, on quantity at least.

You save about £2000 if you come and collect 1,000.

Although they are about £1.40 less if you only buy one, but then you might as well buy from Harrington and Byrne.

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See i like the transparency in the response. Your welcome to marry my older sister anyday! But be warned you should hear the noises she makes when she eats a boiled egg. But least you would like ya future mother in laws apple crumble, if you did marry her - its bit fishy but very healthy!

An absolute gent Sir!

[Samcrewsilverlover]

3 minutes ago, HerefordBullyun said:

See i like the transparency in the response. Your welcome to marry my older sister anyday! But be warned you should hear the noises she makes when she eats a boiled egg. But least you would like ya future mother in laws apple crumble, if you did marry her - its bit fishy but very healthy!

An absolute gent Sir!

 

[Midasfrog]

His Grandad was a serious coin collector each full tin was carefully stored away ready to pass down to the next generation when the time was right or if Ebays £1 selling fees came up first would be offered for sale to anyone 😂😂

Edited January 6, 2022 by Midasfrog

[dicker]

Like many of this sort of listing.  Junk.

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[Stacktastic]

On 06/01/2022 at 16:21, LawrenceChard said:

Most of his fakes can be bought from China for about £2 each including postage, or less in bulk (usually 50 pieces).

Surely its illegal and against the rules to sell counterfeit goods??
So many people get ripped off with these house clearance scams. 

Even I bought one at the start of my coin collecting, but i cancelled the order when I came to my senses. 

[LawrenceChard]

7 hours ago, Stacktastic said:

Surely its illegal and against the rules to sell counterfeit goods??
So many people get ripped off with these house clearance scams. 

Even I bought one at the start of my coin collecting, but i cancelled the order when I came to my senses. 

Yes, selling counterfeit goods is illegal, and coins are a special case. Even owning or being in possession of counterfeit coins is technically illegal in the UK. I am not expert on the law, but believe there are "valid reason" defences.

Passing counterfeit goods including coins of as genuine is a separate offence in its own right. Again there are defences. Most of the Chinese fakes are easily detectable, and could be classed as replica or imitation coins rather than forgeries or counterfeits.

Selling fake or replica coins as genuine would be fraud, and advertising them as genuine or in a misleading manner would contravene Advertising Standards. However both of these are very common on ebay and a few other sites. Ebay don't seem to care, they are making profits from it. The police are too busy to bother, nd the A.S.A would be overwhelmed if people compllained about a fraction of the ebay listings.  

Which, a.k.a. Consumer Association might take an interest, and probably does on occasion. Sometimes Watchdog of other consumer programmes get involved, but not often, and there must be many more, bigger scams going on.

Sites like TSF do their bit, but otherwise we seem to be stuck with ebay and all the scumbags on it. (Apologies to the few decent people who still use it. Oh, and by the way, Amazon is not much better.  

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[dicker]

In the eBay link to the dodgepot coins, this bit of the description that made me laugh was:

'Tin not included'.  May I be so bold as to suggest this is the single most valuable item in the listing!

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