FourNinesFine

Wow... what a stunning couple of pictures!!  😍

15 minutes ago, CazLikesCoins said:

 'Ooh can I store my grandad's old watch in your box!'

To be fair, I've used this line before...
 

3 minutes ago, Stuntman said:

Which designs are your favourites?

The 2022 is my favourite. I also like the 2015 - so I guess there must be something in there about this being for me and my lad.

There's something to be said about the simplicity of the 2004 as well. 

PM'd

2 hours ago, CazLikesCoins said:

An acquaintance of mine had a grandma who saved sovereigns for years, in a linen cash bag bag of all things, and when she died nobody could find where she'd hidden it. Somewhere out there is a bag full of gold coins. Dozens of them 🤩 Someone will find them one day. Maybe 😶

I like to think she spent them while no-one was looking.

If she was anything like my Nan, she'll have converted them into 120,000 tins of biscuits.

It looks more like a bear to me. 

GLWS

16 minutes ago, JohnA1 said:

Wild guess: Every, D1ck and Harry?

Ah, OK.  Ta

14 hours ago, kimchi said:

 half Sovs now have an extra premium now the shoeshine boys are buying them (?).

 

Out of interest, who or what are the Shoeshine boys? 

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5 minutes ago, swanky said:

You should be buying the 50% stuff at ~90% melt value, because no way you get 100% bulk selling to a jeweller etc when they need to melt down to refine.

Pre-1920 trades for a premium, but that premium is fairly consistent so just accept it. I prefer this over pre-1947, needs less space.

OK, makes sense. I was just trying to get a handle on what I could expect price-wise. As always, Ebay is a free-for-all so no way does that help.

Thanks for the responses.  Just squaring the circle... I've done some calculations and I'd welcome some input.

Based on some of the coins suggested in SidS response (which assumes none of these would be especially collectible), I believe the following is true based on a nominal spot price of Spot = £19.53:

Half Crown: King George V (1910–1919): 92.5% Ag
Weight = 14.14 g      

Weight of Ag content = 13.08 g  or  42.06% ozt

Inherent = £8.21

Purchase price (assuming 5% over spot) = £8.60 +/- 

Florin: (1849–1919) 92.5% Ag
Weight = 11.31 g  

Ag:  10.46 g  or  33.63% ozt

Inherent: = £6.57

Purchase price (assuming 5% over spot) = £6.90 +/-

Florin: (1920–1946) 50% Ag
Weight = 11.31 g

Ag:  5.65 g   or  18.17% ozt

Inherent: = £3.55

Purchase price (assuming 5% over spot) = £3.73 +/-

Do I have my sums correct?

25 minutes ago, sellerstacker said:

@SidS is spot on. It is the cheapest way to quickly stack-up on silver. You will generally find it at a few percent over spot. More importantly VAT is also not involved. Good luck with your stacking.

Thanks bud, appreciate it.

1 hour ago, SidS said:

Modern British silver coins issued:

1816-1919 (plus a few from 1920) are 92.5% sterling silver.

1920-1946 are 50% silver.

The cheapest (but not very compact) way to buy British pre-decimal silver is to purchase halfcrowns and florins issued from 1920-1946. The earlier dates will be pretty worn, the war years dates of the 1940s can be pretty close to AU times. Being only 50% though they take up a lot of room.

If you want sterlings then George V 1911-1919 half crowns are the way to go. Possibly also Edward VII florins and Victoria Jubilee head crowns and shillings - anything dated 1887 is affordable.

Thank you, that is super helpful!

OK, I've fallen down something of a rabbit hole here... and I'm trying to learn more about pre-decimal British silver.

I have done a good trawl of previous forum posts and tried to get my head aorund it - in full appreciation that I'm covering ground that will have (and has) been covered before. But I am still stuggling with some of the basics.

For now, I'm just looking to understand which coins had actual silver content (of any meaningful amount). Of those, what was the percentage. And if that silver content changed for different date runs of a particular coin.

I don't know what the protocol is for tagging people directly, but I know these guys have all contributed their expertise previously, so hope it's OK.

@arphethean

@Bigmarc

@SidS

The end-game is to pick up some of this to have a bulk stash of (whatever we call Junk / constitutional) Bristish silver with a reasonable silver %. So not looking for collector's items or to have a 'complete' run etc. But if the prices for such are the same as Bullion, I'll knock the idea on the head.

Ideally, I want to get to a place such as:

"Your best bet is to stick to 'x' coin between these dates, which has x% silver content"

[FWIW, I've become quite smitten with specifically the '1877 Empress British India Rupee' - but that's a different story for another time.]

Please point me at any existing resources if you know them. Happy to do some further leg-work.

Thanks in advance.

FNF.

If it goes unsold and you're happy to split, I'm looking to complete a date run of Somali Elephants, so will happily take that off your hands.

In the meantime, GLWS.

FNF.

Looks like I had another round in the chamber.

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Hi,

Does anyone have any expertise in the world of old banknotes?  Given recent happenings with US FED pumping ever more $$$ into their economy and all the talk of hyperinflation, it's had me revisiting old documentaries and such.

As a result, I'd quite like to own a '100 million billion dollar' 1946 Hungarian Pengo, and a Zimbabwean 100-trillion banknote.  (Which I believe are still the two largest denominations ever printed (and circulated). I suspect one is easier to get hold of than the other. But I know nothing about banknotes or the collecting thereof.

Obviously I've done some Googling and have had the cursory glance on Ebay - but it's like the Wild West out there and I've no idea what's genuine and what the actual value (or asking price) should be. The range is wild.

So if anyone can point me in the direction of any sound advice or research - or the general ballpark of what I should be looking for, that would be great.

Many thanks,

FNF.

13 minutes ago, Britannia47 said:

Personally, I don’t sell anything! (Medium to Long term)😺

Me neither. The plan is to supplement my retirement income, cashing in a Sovereign every month to top up any pension I might have. And of course, if it happens to go to the moon before then, having a few ounces to cash in at the top wouldn't be a bad thing either.

2 hours ago, Thelonerangershorse said:

If you're really concerned about future liquidity you may want to consider 4  x 1/4oz coins rather than a 1oz.

A 1oz coin is getting to be a serious chunk of money for any purchaser to find and it's only going to get worse.

I'm stacking Sovereigns for that purpose. It was more about adding a few of the 1oz in addition to the Sov stack, to benefit from reduced premiums.

In total agreement with your view that it will only get harder for people to find these sorts of sums so Sovereigns will remain my primary stack choice.

Thanks.

52 minutes ago, Stuntman said:

I agree that 1oz coins will be easier to liquidate than bars, but maybe consider buying one 1oz bar at some point, as something to keep rather than to stack.

The 1oz minted Britannia bar is a good-looking piece of gold, in my opinion, and more impressive in-hand than I thought it would be. 

I would recommend one as something to own as part of a collection.  But the coins would be preferable from a stacking point of view. 

Gratuitous photo of 1oz Britannia bar and 1oz Una bar:

 

Yes, hard agree that they look great. FWIW, I have a nice little bundle of Una's in silver and they're glorious.

Thanks for the responses folks. You've helped confirm what I suspected to be the case.

I'm going to continue with my 'sovereign a month' base plan, and look to bolster with Brits when I have the opportunity to pick up an ounce.

👌

FNF.

Accepting that everyone will have their personal preference, is there anything to suggest that 1ozt gold bars would be any less liquid than a 1ozt coin when it comes to potential sales down the line?

I'm close to completing a tube of soveriegns and I'm considering moving up the weight classes a little and diversifying my stack. For some reason, I'm quite taken with the gold bars - more so than with the Britannias - but my spider sense is telling me that Brits might be easier to sell on when the time comes. Any truth to that?

I presume it's also true that bars don't benefit from the CGT-free nature of Brits / Sovs?

Many thanks,

FNF.

4 minutes ago, BackyardBullion said:

Some bars came in today, they leave tomorrow to their new owners sadly.

Switz - swoo 

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