1845 Sov on EBay - Something about this coin I can’t put my finger on…

[dicker]

Hi all,

I spend quite a lot of time looking at Sovs.  I have looked at this one repeatedly and there is something about it that I can’t quite pinpoint as being odd.

Is it just me?

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Dicker

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/363709361983?hash=item54aec46f3f:g:WUoAAOSwNQ9h9w5a

[James32]

Is it the date/lettering?

[dicker]

It’s the overall look.  The hair looks overly defined and the coin just has an odd look. Perhaps the photograph, maybe it had a filter applied.

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Dicker

[stackerp5]

@James32 I am most impressed you only have four tabs open. I've got 32 at the moment 

Apologies for steering off topic - unfortunately my knowledge of pre 1900 sovereigns isn't that great!

[James32]

1 minute ago, stackerp5 said:

@James32 I am most impressed you only have four tabs open. I've got 32 at the moment 

Apologies for steering off topic - unfortunately my knowledge of pre 1900 sovereigns isn't that great!

Obviously I closed the non pg tabs before screen shot 🤣

[James32]

The letter D ( Dei ) looks quirky too.

[dicker]

I did think that. £675….at the moment. Toppy 

 

[James32]

6 minutes ago, dicker said:

I did think that. £675….at the moment. Toppy 

 

Could be the lighting as you say but the eye's almost have to much detail.

[Zhorro]

3 hours ago, James32 said:

The letter D ( Dei ) looks quirky too.

On the first eBay picture the "DEI" looks very strange, but in the third picture the "DEI" looks fairly normal (and it is the same coin).

[James32]

1 minute ago, Zhorro said:

On the first eBay picture the "DEI" looks very strange, but in the third picture the "DEI" looks fairly normal (and it is the same coin).

😳 Great spot.

At least there is a 50% chance the buyer gets the correct coin 🤣

[Divmad]

58 minutes ago, James32 said:

😳 Great spot.

At least there is a 50% chance the buyer gets the correct coin 🤣

Sold for £745

 

[Britannia47]

First image appears to be a fake. Fonts are wrong - flat tops to the D & C + plus inconsistent wear. Looks like a few deliberate dints in the neck area to age it, in an otherwise clean image. However image three is genuine IMO. Just examined 15 shield-backs to get a sense of normality. There are 5 varieties of the 1845 mostly R+ Unfortunately I don't have any of them! 

[sovereignsteve]

6 hours ago, dicker said:

I spend quite a lot of time looking at Sovs

I used but I had to stop. Too many instances of staring at girl's hair ribbons to check if they had the Ansell stripe😎 For some reason the mothers took exception😂

but as to this coin; yes, too many issues as others have pointed out.

[evende]

On 05/02/2022 at 21:14, Britannia47 said:

First image appears to be a fake. Fonts are wrong - flat tops to the D & C + plus inconsistent wear. Looks like a few deliberate dints in the neck area to age it, in an otherwise clean image. However image three is genuine IMO. Just examined 15 shield-backs to get a sense of normality. There are 5 varieties of the 1845 mostly R+ Unfortunately I don't have any of them! 

I agree. Pics 1&3 are different coins. First one looks dodgy. Check the date numerals. 

[GoldDiggerDave]

F/E 

Very weak G in gratia 

 

[thanasis]

I call FAKE!

The first two pictures are the coin the seller is probably(?) advertising.

The other two I have seen on the site of @Allgoldcoins with the following URL:

https://www.allgoldcoins.co.uk/products/1845-queen-victoria-shield-reverse-sovereign?_pos=1&_sid=373c9493c&_ss=r

It seems to be the exact same item.

I also don't know if there are any copyright issues, but apart from that, using photos of items that don't belong to you seems fishy.

Edited February 11, 2022 by thanasis