Viking-Saxon gold 'Stolen'

[sixgun]

18 minutes ago, Notafront4adragon said:

So leftwingers, communists, ecologists, LGBT, Jews, non whites, bankers and the royals. Quite a list of those you blame for the world's ills. Objectively there's a group I would assign someone with this world view to. 

You see you do the usual low grade straw man attack.

i clearly said that the average lesbian, gay, trans were trying to live a quiet life, getting along, making ends meet. i never blamed them for anything - i pointed out the activists who are often Leftist subversives. So strike that one from your list.

Ecologists - if they are proper ecologists working on real science more power to them - they need it. If they are lying sellout fake Climate Scientists et al then i detest them - they are fostering the fake anti-human man made carbon dioxide climate change death cult.

Royals - not sure i even mentioned them, i am not in favour but many others aren't - so what.

Jews - i said i liked Jews in general - just not some people who call themselves Jews and not Zionists most of whom are not Jews. - so rub that one out.

Non-Whites - never was blaming them - you assume b/c i am pro-English - pro-European groups i must hate other ethnic groups. You have to assume this as this is the programming - most of my friends are non-Whites. i don't hate any ethnic groups - hate is a very strong word to me.

Leftists and Communists - they have been the cause for more suffering and deaths than any in the entire world. That does not mean i am anti all Socialists - it depends if they are genuinely helping the people - unlike the typical Politburo sociopaths.

i presume you fashioned your straw man group so you could called some sort of 'Nazi' - i bet you are dying to say it.
Guess why the National Socialists had quite a few good policies - of the top of my head - they introduced the first worker's holidays, nature conservation, anti-smoking, rewarding working men, health and fitness, family values, honouring motherhood, supporting newly weds.... i approve of all those.

[Notafront4adragon]

17 minutes ago, sixgun said:

You see you do the usual low grade straw man attack.

i clearly said that the average lesbian, gay, trans were trying to live a quiet life, getting along, making ends meet. i never blamed them for anything - i pointed out the activists who are often Leftist subversives. So strike that one from your list.

Ecologists - if they are proper ecologists working on real science more power to them - they need it. If they are lying sellout fake Climate Scientists et al then i detest them - they are fostering the fake anti-human man made carbon dioxide climate change death cult.

Royals - not sure i even mentioned them, i am not in favour but many others aren't - so what.

Jews - i said i liked Jews in general - just not some people who call themselves Jews and not Zionists most of whom are not Jews. - so rub that one out.

Non-Whites - never was blaming them - you assume b/c i am pro-English - pro-European groups i must hate other ethnic groups. You have to assume this as this is the programming - most of my friends are non-Whites. i don't hate any ethnic groups - hate is a very strong word to me.

Leftists and Communists - they have been the cause for more suffering and deaths than any in the entire world. That does not mean i am anti all Socialists - it depends if they are genuinely helping the people - unlike the typical Politburo sociopaths.

i presume you fashioned your straw man group so you could called some sort of 'Nazi' - i bet you are dying to say it.
Guess why the National Socialists had quite a few good policies - of the top of my head - they introduced the first worker's holidays, nature conservation, anti-smoking, rewarding working men, health and fitness, family values, honouring motherhood, supporting newly weds.... i approve of all those.

It's so late so this is gonna be even more ramberly then usual.

You're correct some of your arguments do sound very similar to Nazi sentiments as they blame all those groups.

You only blame some and I can take you by your word that you're not a Nazi or sympathizer. But when you start saying Jews orchestrated the genocide of whites then people are gonna question you.

You may have non white friends but as discussed you'd never want to call them family or be that close to them. I personally I find it odd to say I'm pro-white, it indicates superiority when I struggle to see how any one group can claim superiority. It's redundant to be prowhite, its like black lives matter, well yeah obviously. I don't even understand this idea of being proud to be British, unless you personally contributed to the culture why are you so proud? Shakespeare can be proud to be british his works are quintessentially English. I had **** all to do with it though. Why are you proud to be an Englishman what have you brought to the table?

Finally yeah the Nazis had some genuinely great ideas. Shame about the multiple genocides, the invading and taking of other people stuff, the whole occult nonsense and s****** bureaucratic nightmare for anyone living there! Good uniforms though. Also Hitler was a vegan so I'm not down for that.

[sixgun]

21 minutes ago, Notafront4adragon said:

It's so late so this is gonna be even more ramberly then usual.

You're correct some of your arguments do sound very similar to Nazi sentiments as they blame all those groups.

You only blame some and I can take you by your word that you're not a Nazi or sympathizer. But when you start saying Jews orchestrated the genocide of whites then people are gonna question you.

You may have non white friends but as discussed you'd never want to call them family or be that close to them. I personally I find it odd to say I'm pro-white, it indicates superiority when I struggle to see how any one group can claim superiority. It's redundant to be prowhite, its like black lives matter, well yeah obviously. I don't even understand this idea of being proud to be British, unless you personally contributed to the culture why are you so proud? Shakespeare can be proud to be british his works are quintessentially English. I had **** all to do with it though. Why are you proud to be an Englishman what have you brought to the table?

Finally yeah the Nazis had some genuinely great ideas. Shame about the multiple genocides, the invading and taking of other people stuff, the whole occult nonsense and s****** bureaucratic nightmare for anyone living there! Good uniforms though. Also Hitler was a vegan so I'm not down for that.

No you are less rambly! i can start agreeing.

i see my nation being destroyed by an agenda - it is a hideous agenda. It is happening all over the world. It is happening to every people.

Israel will end in tears. So many Israelis are brainwashed and at the same time they are a human shield - it is as in WWII Europe - one cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Europe. Israel will be destroyed in the end. 

There is nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage - but if you are White if you say that you must be a White Supremacist - a racist - as in hatred of all other people. So many Europeans are not proud of their people, the culture, the achievements, the traditions, - many are afraid to say so and many have been purged of such ideas.

The Germans had the best uniforms - Lemmy of Motorhead liked to wear them. Hugo Boss. From my research a lot of what is said about Germany from WWII is exaggerated or just not true - the victor writes the history. 

The line that you never did XYZ - why are you proud of whatever it is? This is a common line - Such people often have no tie to whatever it is, it is not part of them and their identity. They will happily vote for paying reparations for something that happened 100's of years ago but they don't have a connection with their homeland. To be honest i am not so bothered but i feel i should stand up and be counted even if i am the last man standing. 

OK so now that is over we should get back to gold and silver.

[Notafront4adragon]

12 minutes ago, sixgun said:

No you are less rambly! i can start agreeing.

i see my nation being destroyed by an agenda - it is a hideous agenda. It is happening all over the world. It is happening to every people.

Israel will end in tears. So many Israelis are brainwashed and at the same time they are a human shield - it is as in WWII Europe - one cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Europe. Israel will be destroyed in the end. 

There is nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage - but if you are White if you say that you must be a White Supremacist - a racist - as in hatred of all other people. So many Europeans are not proud of their people, the culture, the achievements, the traditions, - many are afraid to say so and many have been purged of such ideas.

The Germans had the best uniforms - Lemmy of Motorhead liked to wear them. Hugo Boss. From my research a lot of what is said about Germany from WWII is exaggerated or just not true - the victor writes the history. 

The line that you never did XYZ - why are you proud of whatever it is? This is a common line - Such people often have no tie to whatever it is, it is not part of them and their identity. They will happily vote for paying reparations for something that happened 100's of years ago but they don't have a connection with their homeland. To be honest i am not so bothered but i feel i should stand up and be counted even if i am the last man standing. 

OK so now that is over we should get back to gold and silver.

Fair play. I'm definately gonna buy a metal detector if this is the kinda of fun conversations you can have. Find a couple of old coins in a church carpark with a buddy and before you know it one person is screaming die you commi red bastard whilst the other cries I'll see you in hell Nazi!!

It's not a hobby for the feight-hearted 

[KDave]

6 hours ago, sixgun said:

It was not a typo. 

The people running it were clearly homicidal. 
What proportion of the members were Jewish? - what proportion of Russia was Jewish? - i see about 5% - so it should have been 1 in 20 representation. 
Does that tally or was there a significantly disproportionate number?

i see a disproportionate number - way outside randomness.

Why is that? - was there a grudge? - some sort of revenge? What would motivate it? Was the method killing sadistic or not?

If there were an ethnic hatred then that they were Jewish might be very relevant.

@KDave i believe you have specialist knowledge - what is your opinion?
Lets be objective - i know the Left lives in the post fact world but we should look at this objectively.

I only studied the Bolshevik revolution officially up to A-level, hardly specialist knowledge, most of what I know about it has been learned since on and off, from a multitude of sources, the subject was very dark at the time, it is much darker now I know more about it. You are right to point out the Jewish involvement, the majority of the party were Jewish, the figure heads were Jewish with the exception of Lenin. The primary funding received by Lenin and Trotsky came from Jacob Schiff, a Jewish banker. He provided $20 million ($1 billion today) to start an organised revolution against the Russian Monarchy. That is just the beginning in 1917, the list of Jewish involvement in the destruction of Russia is a long one, their involvement in the murder of the Tsar and his family, through to the tens of millions killed and starved to death in the Holodomor, they had a leading role in all of it. 

 

On the Bolshevik revolution, I think Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn summed it up in his writings;

"You must understand, the leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. It cannot be overstated. Bolshevism committed the greatest act of slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant and uncaring about this enormous crime is proof that the global media is in the hands of the perpetrators".

This does not mean we should tar an entire people with the crimes of the last century, despite the fact it is done to us in the west for our past, all of the time. Awareness that this kind of subversion is possible in our nations today is the main lesson in my view.

[sixgun]

3 hours ago, KDave said:

I only studied the Bolshevik revolution officially up to A-level, hardly specialist knowledge, most of what I know about it has been learned since on and off, from a multitude of sources, the subject was very dark at the time, it is much darker now I know more about it. You are right to point out the Jewish involvement, the majority of the party were Jewish, the figure heads were Jewish with the exception of Lenin. The primary funding received by Lenin and Trotsky came from Jacob Schiff, a Jewish banker. He provided $20 million ($1 billion today) to start an organised revolution against the Russian Monarchy. That is just the beginning in 1917, the list of Jewish involvement in the destruction of Russia is a long one, their involvement in the murder of the Tsar and his family, through to the tens of millions killed and starved to death in the Holodomor, they had a leading role in all of it. 

 

On the Bolshevik revolution, I think Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn summed it up in his writings;

"You must understand, the leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. It cannot be overstated. Bolshevism committed the greatest act of slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant and uncaring about this enormous crime is proof that the global media is in the hands of the perpetrators".

This does not mean we should tar an entire people with the crimes of the last century, despite the fact it is done to us in the west for our past, all of the time. Awareness that this kind of subversion is possible in our nations today is the main lesson in my view.

i remembered you writing about this hence i asked for your input. 

[Murph]

On 24/11/2019 at 23:38, Notafront4adragon said:

But they do get market value many many times over the spot price of gold. Some of those pieces were only 9kt! Worse some was silver.  

You can believe keeping the government out of everything will be ok but as this case proves greedy bastards will always try to take what isn't theirs. You'd change your ideas if they'd stolen millions from you I'm sure you'd wanna see them punished.

Even if they took every penny I owned I wouldn't want or expect them to be sentenced to many years in prison and they wouldn't be.

Funny how when someone actually breaks into poor Mrs X's house and takes a considerable amount of her property they often get off without a prison sentence yet if they take something from an aristocrat or rich person that they didn't even know they had they get such a harsh sentence.

[magpie79]

only just found this topic!!!!  thats my Sunday morning reading sorted out 

 very refreshing that everyone can add there own views and opinions freely and that they can be debated respectfully on the forum with no censorship or with people losing they s*** over it !!! (OK well maybe 1 or 2 usual subjects might be lol)

good stuff !!!

[kimchi]

Iirc Lenin's heritage isn't clear for some reason, which has resonance with Hitler's speculated and somewhat-evidenced (DNA tests on relatives) but not proven Jewish ancestor (which would most likely be his grandfather). Lenin's own grandfather was a freed serf so his father did very well for himself, becoming successful 'middle class' and marrying Lenin's mother, whose father was thought to be a convert from Judaism to Christianity, but either way that family was certainly well-connected to royalty etc.

I think Jewish folk in general are victims, like most of us are - they have been utterly played by those at the top who supposedly wear the same 'badge'. I lived with a Jewish chap when Schindler's List came out and we watched it together, he was absolutely traumatized, yet even at the time the veracity of the story was questioned. But, such things cannot be questioned!

There are anti-Zionist groups of Jews, and also groups in Israel that protest against the 'treatment' of Palestinians. 'Funnily enough' they don't get much press or financial support...

I was reminded today that Trotsky (changed his name from his original Jewish name Bronstein) and Hitler were in Vienna at the same time and frequented the same cafe. What are the chances? Further, the 'funny thing' is that in 1913 Lenin was also there in Vienna, along with a certain Franz Ferdinand, as well as Freud.

Now, this bit is a bit leftfield, even for me. Has anyone else ever heard of our current royal family tracing themselves back to not only biblical David but to Adam? I've heard murmurs down the years but only had a look today. It seems very interesting (as well as a minefield - no Diana pun intended there). Diana's father was most likely Goldsmith. William married a Goldsmith. Is it me or does there seem to be a concentration of elite Zionist families around the monarchy, particularly in our lifetimes?

I have no idea how truthful or accurate this webpage on the lineage is (and likely never will have - one would have to locate originals of the sources cited and then research their own providence), but I found it interesting, maybe worth a look (?):

http://www.giveshare.org/israel/grimaldi.html

Much more I could say but (again leftfield) Charles can choose to be King Arthur (one of his middle names) should he so wish (he won't but it's there as a 'resonance'). So isn't it funny that Diana is supposedly buried on an island in the middle of a lake (The Lady of the Lake)?

[Notafront4adragon]

2 hours ago, Murph said:

Even if they took every penny I owned I wouldn't want or expect them to be sentenced to many years in prison and they wouldn't be.

Funny how when someone actually breaks into poor Mrs X's house and takes a considerable amount of her property they often get off without a prison sentence yet if they take something from an aristocrat or rich person that they didn't even know they had they get such a harsh sentence.

I can't argue that there's certainly different rules for the wealthy and powerful. However it doesn't negate that what they did was also wrong, legally and morally. 

I just don't buy that these guys were just honest folk who tried to bend the rules. They acted like criminals and they should be punished like criminals. Attempting to steal millions of pounds worth of goods is a major crime. 

Again the irony is had they declared the find and sought permission they would be multi millionaires and could of bought many times more gold than they found! A plus would of being those interested in history and numismatic matters would be able to go and see this collection with there own eyes. I fail to see how that is not the ideal scenario. Had I found this hoard instead of figuring out how to solely enrich myself, I would be proud to have contributed something significant back to my community and be happy I was many many times wealthier than I had been before finding that history. 

[kimchi]

Oh and speaking of serfs, check out the historical records of the owners of the major slave trading ships/companies, draw your own conclusions.

2 hours ago, magpie79 said:

only just found this topic!!!!  thats my Sunday morning reading sorted out 

 very refreshing that everyone can add there own views and opinions freely and that they can be debated respectfully on the forum with no censorship or with people losing they s*** over it !!! (OK well maybe 1 or 2 usual subjects might be lol)

good stuff !!!

I think it's safe to say if you're catching up that the spaghetti monster is a highlight, loved that! 🤣

[KDave]

1 hour ago, kimchi said:

Now, this bit is a bit leftfield, even for me. Has anyone else ever heard of our current royal family tracing themselves back to not only biblical David but to Adam? I've heard murmurs down the years but only had a look today. It seems very interesting (as well as a minefield - no Diana pun intended there). Diana's father was most likely Goldsmith. William married a Goldsmith. Is it me or does there seem to be a concentration of elite Zionist families around the monarchy, particularly in our lifetimes?

I have no idea how truthful or accurate this webpage on the lineage is (and likely never will have - one would have to locate originals of the sources cited and then research their own providence), but I found it interesting, maybe worth a look (?):

http://www.giveshare.org/israel/grimaldi.html

Much more I could say but (again leftfield) Charles can choose to be King Arthur (one of his middle names) should he so wish (he won't but it's there as a 'resonance'). So isn't it funny that Diana is supposedly buried on an island in the middle of a lake (The Lady of the Lake)?

Very interesting, I know that Nicholas (last Tsar of Russia) was cousin to our own King George V and was effectively abandoned when the end came. The Tsar's executioners were all Jewish. I do wonder what the real history of that specific event is, as there are so many layers of propaganda from various sides regarding the nature of the murders. I recall one writing claiming that there were ritual elements to the murders (Jewish ritual murder) I saw this as anti-semite propaganda, I will try and find the source. Come to think of it I have read of the ritual elements to Diana's death as well. These are indeed faraway speculations. While I don't know for sure what the truth is around the nature of the murders, I can confidently say that the spaghetti god would know. 

[sixgun]

@kimchi

These tales of monarchs being connected to King David sound like fiction - the divine right of Kings. If you are tracing your lineage back to King David why not go the whole hog and claim you are descended from Adam. That might sound grand at first sight but if you believe the Genesis account then every human HAS to be descended from Adam (the first man) - so no big deal. So if everyone HAS to be descended from Adam this account presumably attempting to elevate the monarch does the absolute opposite - but people aren't supposed to think about these BS tales. i claim i am descended from Adam and Eve - so i am even better - where's my crown?
i doubt most of the history we are told - we have seen history being concocted and synthesised before our very eyes. The controlled media is full of lies so why has it ever been any different? The difference now is there are more eyes and video cameras looking.

The moneyed financiers did get themselves installed into the aristocracy who are known for the habit of intermarrying - so it would be expected there would be some 'Jewish' ancestry.
Schindler's List is a prize winning fiction (Winner of the Los Angeles Times Book Award for Fiction - how long before Winston Tipp-Ex's that out at the Ministry of Truth?). Most believe it is a true account, like they believe the book 'Night' by Elie Wiesel is true and about his experiences with his father in the German camps at Auschwitz and Buchenwald. Except the book came out as a fiction which morphed into non-fiction. Some people who have looked at this would say Wiesel was never in the camp system in the first place but don't let that get in the way. The idea we better not ask questions around these events - to my mind rings alarm bells and points to a cover up.  

[kimchi]

All hail the Spaghetti God (loved that, thought it was brilliant!)! 🤣

56 minutes ago, KDave said:

I do wonder what the real history of that specific event is, as there are so many layers of propaganda from various sides regarding the nature of the murders. I recall one writing claiming that there were ritual elements to the murders (Jewish ritual murder) I saw this as anti-semite propaganda,

Murky waters indeed, I think perhaps we will never know, perhaps they were never killed at all but simply 'moved out of the way' (so the next Act in the Grand Theatre could be played out - ?). Generally though, genuine signs (even if things didn't happen as presented on the surface) from one side or another are 'marks' to each other.

56 minutes ago, KDave said:

I recall one writing claiming that there were ritual elements to the murders (Jewish ritual murder) I saw this as anti-semite propaganda, I will try and find the source.

It could well be anti-Jewish propaganda as you say but anti-semite...most Jews are not Semite!

56 minutes ago, KDave said:

Come to think of it I have read of the ritual elements to Diana's death as well. These are indeed faraway speculations.

Oh blimey...well that is something we CAN get a (relatively) fairly 'firm' grasp on, as it was within most of our lifetimes, within memory, seen at the time, etc. A whole thread needed there! And most are not faraway speculations, it's obvious, thrown right in our faces.

27 minutes ago, sixgun said:

These tales of monarchs being connected to King David sound like fiction - the divine right of Kings. If you are tracing your lineage back to King David why not go the whole hog and claim you are descended from Adam.

I agree it could be fiction, these people are psychopathic nutters after all, however descendancy of the present royals from Adam was in the link I posted. <edit> I also said it directly in the post.

[sixgun]

1 minute ago, kimchi said:

I agree it could be fiction, these people are psychopathic nutters after all, however descendancy of the present royals from Adam was in the link I posted.

Yes - i followed the link - but if Adam and Eve were the first man and woman then every human must be descended from them - it is impossible not to be unless you are for example an alien lizard. Perhaps the 'theory' was meant to convince us she was really human and not a lizard.

[Miganto]

[Darr3nG]

42 minutes ago, Miganto said:

Viking raiders, burying the truth / gold (delete as appropriate).

[DarkChameleon]

1 hour ago, sixgun said:

@kimchi

These tales of monarchs being connected to King David sound like fiction - the divine right of Kings. If you are tracing your lineage back to King David why not go the whole hog and claim you are descended from Adam. That might sound grand at first sight but if you believe the Genesis account then every human HAS to be descended from Adam (the first man) - so no big deal. So if everyone HAS to be descended from Adam this account presumably attempting to elevate the monarch does the absolute opposite - but people aren't supposed to think about these BS tales. i claim i am descended from Adam and Eve - so i am even better - where's my crown?
i doubt most of the history we are told - we have seen history being concocted and synthesised before our very eyes. The controlled media is full of lies so why has it ever been any different? The difference now is there are more eyes and video cameras looking.

The moneyed financiers did get themselves installed into the aristocracy who are known for the habit of intermarrying - so it would be expected there would be some 'Jewish' ancestry.
Schindler's List is a prize winning fiction (Winner of the Los Angeles Times Book Award for Fiction - how long before Winston Tipp-Ex's that out at the Ministry of Truth?). Most believe it is a true account, like they believe the book 'Night' by Elie Wiesel is true and about his experiences with his father in the German camps at Auschwitz and Buchenwald. Except the book came out as a fiction which morphed into non-fiction. Some people who have looked at this would say Wiesel was never in the camp system in the first place but don't let that get in the way. The idea we better not ask questions around these events - to my mind rings alarm bells and points to a cover up.  

If you can trace your lineage to Charlemagne then your going to be well on your way to ancient royalty and as a big chunk of modern society can race their ancestors to the big dude it's not an finite needle to pass through.

[Xander]

6 minutes ago, DarkChameleon said:

presumably attempting to elevate the monarch

Considering the nature of monarchies I would say they are more than likely descendants of the Nephilim. 

[DarkChameleon]

19 minutes ago, Xander said:

Considering the nature of monarchies I would say they are more than likely descendants of the Nephilim. 

Where did I say that quote you attribute to me?...im direct line from ansestry and couldn't care less myself.

[Xander]

Do you mean, ancestry? 

[Melon]

9 hours ago, magpie79 said:

only just found this topic!!!!  thats my Sunday morning reading sorted out 

 very refreshing that everyone can add there own views and opinions freely and that they can be debated respectfully on the forum with no censorship or with people losing they s*** over it !!! (OK well maybe 1 or 2 usual subjects might be lol)

good stuff !!!

I find this comment lewd and offensive. 

😝😆

5 hours ago, sixgun said:

Yes - i followed the link - but if Adam and Eve were the first man and woman then every human must be descended from them - it is impossible not to be unless you are for example an alien lizard. Perhaps the 'theory' was meant to convince us she was really human and not a lizard.

Adam and Eve is a fairy tale. It didn't happen. Science has proven beyond any doubt the true source of mankind. 

[kimchi]

16 hours ago, sixgun said:

These tales of monarchs being connected to King David sound like fiction - the divine right of Kings. If you are tracing your lineage back to King David why not go the whole hog and claim you are descended from Adam. That might sound grand at first sight but if you believe the Genesis account then every human HAS to be descended from Adam (the first man) - so no big deal. So if everyone HAS to be descended from Adam this account presumably attempting to elevate the monarch does the absolute opposite - but people aren't supposed to think about these BS tales. i claim i am descended from Adam and Eve - so i am even better - where's my crown?

Thanks for clarifying in your other post, this is a good point well made (as were others but this addresses what is nagging at me). I would really like to know if there is anything behind the faint rumours of the claimed descent, (at least to David, as that doesn't present the 'problem' with Adam and Eve) or if I am mistaken.

Of course a new king or queen is anointed with oil, very biblical/religious/occult. I would love to know what the private/'secret' part of Elizabeth's coronation was.

The Lord Mayor of London is poked with a spear at his investiture, just as Christ is said to have been on the cross by a Roman soldier.

There is something very, very interesting imo around the current royal family and genealogy (a number of aspects). William's mother was most likely a Goldsmith (father), he married a Goldsmith (mother). That makes George at least half Goldsmith, which according to some is far more of a % than the genuine royal lineage of, say, Charles.

Pretty much the whole 'romance' between William and Catherine can be summed up as the media constantly pushing the 'gold digger smith' story, so it was right in our faces as it always has to be, we were perhaps being told to look the wrong way.

The royals are absolutely obsessed with bloodlines. A distant relative bred dogs for them early last century, the present queen was far from the first, then there's the horses (Royal Ascot) etc. Is simply a typical aristocratic pursuit, is it because they are so inbred themselves, or because it lends an aura that they too are 'pure'? Why have all but one American Presidents (including Obama) been said to be related to the royals (I suspect if true it is all of them)?

Then there was this very strange agreement between the Commonwealth nations a few years back. It was 'sold' by the media as changing the rule of succession so that first born females could accede (although naturally William and Catherine then 'had' a son). The concurrent (and briefly mentioned) change was that only Charles and his heirs can accede. I don't think this is to ward off Greg Hallett's supposedly stronger claim to the throne (I may well be wrong), as I am pretty most Monarchists and indeed people in general would rather have an illegitimate, but well-established, monarch than some 'commoner' from Down Under.

There is also the curious fact that, should the official narrative be correct (that Diana was a Spencer) then William will be the first monarch to be descended from both Charles I and Charles II since Queen Anne.

Hmmm, lots of questions that I don't think many/any can answer, but I would love to know if anyone's heard of this Davidic Line claim by the present 'royals'.

@KDave did you see James Middleton in George's 'family christening' photo. He looked very much like not only our most recent George monarchs to me, as well as the Romanovs (maybe it was 'just' the beard).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Pipers]

wow this thread is still going

[kimchi]

Just now, Pipers said:

wow this thread is still going

Keep an eye on it as it might get interesting still if/when we start to link in the paedophiles, gays and transexuals in and around the royal family (and NO I am NOT grouping any of those together)!

One interesting thing I found that maybe I forgot to mention is that 'Nasi' is mentioned on Wikipedia as a Hebrew honorific meaning king/prince or sometimes captain (from the Davidic Line page). In modern Hebrew it means president.