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20 Francs / 8 Florin Austria / Hungary

They have quite low mintages and are obtainable for relatively fair premiums.

If anyone has a date which I am missing I would be happy about a purchase offer. I am also open minded for a trade.

1 hour ago, ilovesilverireallydo said:

He’s got the 44 Romanian one too.prices in the photos. Tagging @SVcollector as well

The Romanian coin is twice available from our forum meber @Toshunya86  for 350. Good deal in my opinion.

Here you guys can find a link where most of them are listed:

http://www.rene-finn.de/lmugold.html

15 minutes ago, Hannibal said:

Thank you for pointing to "Agamemnon 2586" dealer in Thessaloniki/Greece.
Very useful piece of info.

Impressive LMU collection you have there. 
Would you care to indicate, where exactly on the coin is the rare ‘Torche’ mint mark on the 20 Fr ‘Angel at Desk’ because I can't see it?

Also, may I ask what the premium you paid, over spot, for the Albanian 20 Franga coins was, percentage-wise? 

Do you have any "20 Perpera" from Motenegro?
I believe this is the second rarest LMU coin, apart from the "20 Franga".

The 20 Perpera does not have LMU specs.

There are a fewtypes which are alot rarer than the 20 Franga albania.

There were only  France, Belgium, Italy and Switzerland, but many other countrys also used the same spezifications of coins.

If you want them all, it's a really hard to achieve goal, because there are like more than 70 different types of the "20 Francs" size..

20 hours ago, Choi said:

 Although it is the most common LMU gold,  I finally added a plain head Napoleon III 20 franc piece  slightly below spot(299 euros & 1% Ebay bucks).  I'm not interested at adding more in today's gold price,  but willing to get a plain-head 5 franc gold to complete my set.

Nice coins, make sure you don't forget to add the 50 and the 100 Francs to the set

Small Typeset of Carlo Felice Lire 

Those coins will be posted among others for sale this evening.

I don't know the answer either.

Here are some picture of the coin I have. All I know is that its not proof or prooflike.

On 10/03/2020 at 15:20, Lea79 said:

What I want is a lot 😃;

• 20 Swiss franc Helvetia 
• 20 franc Napoleon Bonaparte emperor  
• 20 franc nepoleon III Empereur 
• 20 franc nepoleon III wreath 
• 20 franc leopold I Belgium 
• 20 franc Tunisia Ali bey
• 20 franken Franz Josef II
• 20 franc Albert French txt

 

Semi numi

 

• 20 peseta child 
• 20 peseta baby
• 20 francs Charles x 
• 20 lire Carlo Felice 
• 20 lei
• 20 drachma 1876
• 20 dinara Milan 

 

Premium

 

• 20 markkaa 
• 20 franka Albania zogu
• 20 perpera
• 20 leva
• 20 Lire Murat 
• 20 lire Lombardy 
• 20 lire Maria Parma
• 20 Lire - Vittorio Emanuele I 1816 1820
• 20 lire Carlo Alberto 
• 20 Lire - Vittorio Emanuele I 1821
• 20 lire Venice 1848
• 20 franc republic of piedmont
• 20 franken WESTPHALIA
• 20 Lire  Vittorio Emanuele III Johnson paternal strike careful as are some gold plated.
• 20 Lire Vittorio Emanuele III
• 20 Lire - Vittorio Emanuele III fascism anniversary 

Hey, nice whishlist. The ones from "what I want alot" seem easy to get. The 20 perpera and the 20 francs piedmont dont have lmu specs btw. The 20 Lire Carlo Alberto of of the premium section isn't as expensive as the carlo felice  from thesemi numi, except exceptional conditions , dates etc ofc.

I am glad to add my first 80 Lire coin to my collection. It has the weight equivalent weight of 4 x 20 Francs/Lire etc.

Unfortunately the 40 Lire is somehow thicker on the reverse, left side of the shield. The obverse is even and not thinner. Weight and dimensions are ok.

Anyone got a idea what the reason for this could be ? @Augur maybe ?

20 Lire Carlo Felice 1825 - 28k Mintage

20 Lire Carlo Felice 1827 - 150k Mintage

40 Lire Maria Luigia 1815 - 220k Mintage

80 Lire Carlo Felice 1826 - 76k Mintage

On 22/12/2019 at 20:31, Lea79 said:

Just saw this on eBay.... a real rarity with a price tag to match!! 

Beautiful coin which i still need to find one day. That price seems a bit high. I know a source where they have one for 1200 Euros. For those who can't or don't want to afford it, the 40 Lire piece might be interesting.

10 Lire San Marino 1925 R

1 Year Type

Catalogue: KM#7

Mintage: 16000 from 20000 melted -> 4 000 pieces only!

The 20 Lire piece had a Mintage of 9334 and 7334 have been melted -> 2000 pieces only!

There are some coins "test coins"marked with "PROVA" and  "PROVA DI STAMPA" over the towers which are even more rare.

On 04/12/2019 at 20:10, NRSovereign said:

Hi guys I need your help/advice local to me a person is selling a 20 zlotych (polish lmu)for £330 do you think this is a fair price?

thanks in advance

Thats a very good price. I have had 3 of them, 2 I have sold at about 500-550 Euros, if the condition is good (this type should always be uncirculated), its very cheap 

@ilovesilverireallydo   that 20 Lire's are really rare and expensive. I think I got like around 60 different 20 franc size LMU coins, but that one is stil on my wishlist. Congratulations

Nice one!

Those Austrian and Hungarian Florins are very nice to pick up. There are plenty of different years with quite low mintages compared to the most other french francs.

I am trying to gather many different dates, with patience the collection grows over time while paying only fairly small premiums.

40 Francs Louis XVIII 1828 W, 352k Mintage

20 Francs Luxemburg (Medal) 1953, 25,6k Mintage

10 Dinara Serbia 1882 V, 1 year Type, 300k Mintage

21 hours ago, AlL said:

love Skanderberg too did you see this videos 

 

Yea, I have seen it. I really like that channel and he's descriptions are very well done. 

Made some pictures today when I visited my coins in the Bank.

Very bad light in the basement so the pictures didn't come out very well. In real they look alot better.

20 Lire Italy 1923, 1 year type, Mintage 20k

40 Lire Maria Luigia 1815, two year type, Mintage 220 K

40 Lire Napoleon 1814, Mintage 264 K

20 Pesetas 1889,  three year type, Mintage 875 K

20 Pesetas 1899, two year type, Mintage  2,1 Million, many melted down

10 Pesetas 1878 (EMM), two year type, Mintage 90 K

20 Franga Skanderbeg 1927, two year type, Mintage 5 K

20 Franga Amet Zogu 1927, two year type, Mintage 6K 

4 Florins Austria / Hungary, weighing the half of the 8 Florins (20 Francs size and weight)

The Hungarian ones are quite rare and carry a high premium.

The Austrian ones are even rarer and carry very high premiums.

It has a reeded edge, minted in Paris (A). You can find them from time to time on ebay and on auctions.

1 minute ago, Lea79 said:

I’ve been after this one for a while. Not great pics as it’s dark and I’ve only just opened it haha 😃

nice coin which has only been minted for two years with low mintages. Unfortunately the strike isn't that deep on the ones I have seen. I got that ones also.

Wow, these 20 Bolivares are quite rare. Never seen a lot , either a small daterun. You got the 10 Bolivares already ;)? If not I could help you

It's a quite good price. A LMU Gold collector who hasn't got one yet should buy that one in my opinion.

Looks like shipping is quite cheap to germany, just wondering how the condition is...

On 23/03/2019 at 16:32, Kookaburracollector said:

The little red book Monnais Francaises has arrived (unlike my 20 Francs!) and is a very good reference guide. The engraver listing is not as detailed as the one I posted earlier though, so I suspect that page might be from a later edition.

The format of the book after that, is a detailed list of all French coinage in denomination order from 1 centime upwards. The mintages of each coin by year is also provided..see example page below..

 

For £8.49 including postage from France 🇫🇷 it’s well worth it, if only to have lying around on a coffee table!! 😂 

I bought myself the 1991 version for 8,53 EUR shipped  As you said you cant do wrong this that cheap pricing. There is a 2017 Version existing with a few additions...but that one is about 30 EUR....so I guess I am glad with a older one. Thanks again for showing that book.