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Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle

A little worn around the edges, but not too shabby for a hundred years old...

Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle

A little worn around the edges, but not too shabby for a hundred years old...

Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle

A little worn around the edges, but not too shabby for a hundred years old...

Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle

A little worn around the edges, but not too shabby for a hundred years old...

Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle

A little worn around the edges, but not too shabby for a hundred years old...

Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle

A little worn around the edges, but not too shabby for a hundred years old...

Nobody will ever know what I do to my coins when no one is looking... 😁
On topic: If you have ever seen how your local bullion dealer handles coins you will realize that pristine condition is an idea reserved for investors that put too much thought into it.
Will a collectors' value ever be realized? Isn't it like with a Rolex, that no one ever wants to be the person paying the theoretical collectors' value?

Nobody will ever know what I do to my coins when no one is looking... 😁
On topic: If you have ever seen how your local bullion dealer handles coins you will realize that pristine condition is an idea reserved for investors that put too much thought into it.
Will a collectors' value ever be realized? Isn't it like with a Rolex, that no one ever wants to be the person paying the theoretical collectors' value?

Looks great, do you have an idea of the date because you speak of a historical piece ? The number 1000 makes it special that's for sure.

Nobody will ever know what I do to my coins when no one is looking... 😁
On topic: If you have ever seen how your local bullion dealer handles coins you will realize that pristine condition is an idea reserved for investors that put too much thought into it.
Will a collectors' value ever be realized? Isn't it like with a Rolex, that no one ever wants to be the person paying the theoretical collectors' value?

now you tell me!

Nobody will ever know what I do to my coins when no one is looking... 😁
On topic: If you have ever seen how your local bullion dealer handles coins you will realize that pristine condition is an idea reserved for investors that put too much thought into it.
Will a collectors' value ever be realized? Isn't it like with a Rolex, that no one ever wants to be the person paying the theoretical collectors' value?

The result can be clearly seen, though it is still tarnished to a degree

The process can be repeated for better results.

It could become the ultimate collector pieces - take a tube of 2021 Type 1 and 2 each, sell 20 sets in displays...
I'm not entrepreneur enough for that, though 🤫

One US Dollar

50 US Dollars

Detail of the new American Eagle security feature

(side by side)

American Silver Eagle 2021, Type 2 Tube (US Mint)


(US Mint sealed)

American Silver Eagle 2021, Type 2 (US Mint)

(Reverse)

(Obverse)
 

American Gold Eagle 2021, Type 2 (US Mint), 1 Ounce

(Reverse)

(Obverse)
 

And here...
Set of Silver Queen's Beasts (Royal Mint), 2 Ounce

Silver Bar, 250g, Degussa (historical)

 

 

Historical means old Degussa. Degussa was a German precious metals refinery (among other business fields) since before 1900. Degussa used to be a household name in regards to gold and silver. The precious metal business was sold to Umicore somewhere after 2000. The Degussa name has been sold around 2010, the new company became one of the largest precious metal dealers in Germany.
So in regards to Degussa bars we think of three types:
Old Degussa bars, produced by the original Degussa refinery - these bars have a characteristic "coffin" form, as can be seen in the photo (more pronounced on larger bars).
Umicore bars, which are identical or very close to old Degussa bars (see here and here).
The New Degussa does not produce it's own bars but has bars produced by other refineries, stamped as Degussa - like Valcambi (earlier) and Argor Heraeus (later). These bars are more flat and less "coffin" like.
In my eyes: the old Degussa form is the most attractive due to it's chunkiness. While Umicore will deliver the form, the Umicore logo is very modern and industrial, while the Degussa logo is more classical. Then new Degussa bars are nothing like the old ones. I own some of those new bars (see somewhere above in this thread), but I'm not a fan.
So, I do not know how old this bar is, chances are it could be a mere 15 years old, though the serial number makes that unlikely. Most important to me is the old form, an old Degussa has always been on my list.

Historical means old Degussa. Degussa was a German precious metals refinery (among other business fields) since before 1900. Degussa used to be a household name in regards to gold and silver. The precious metal business was sold to Umicore somewhere after 2000. The Degussa name has been sold around 2010, the new company became one of the largest precious metal dealers in Germany.
So in regards to Degussa bars we think of three types:
Old Degussa bars, produced by the original Degussa refinery - these bars have a characteristic "coffin" form, as can be seen in the photo (more pronounced on larger bars).
Umicore bars, which are identical or very close to old Degussa bars (see here and here).
The New Degussa does not produce it's own bars but has bars produced by other refineries, stamped as Degussa - like Valcambi (earlier) and Argor Heraeus (later). These bars are more flat and less "coffin" like.
In my eyes: the old Degussa form is the most attractive due to it's chunkiness. While Umicore will deliver the form, the Umicore logo is very modern and industrial, while the Degussa logo is more classical. Then new Degussa bars are nothing like the old ones. I own some of those new bars (see somewhere above in this thread), but I'm not a fan.
So, I do not know how old this bar is, chances are it could be a mere 15 years old, though the serial number makes that unlikely. Most important to me is the old form, an old Degussa has always been on my list.

American Silver Eagles 2021, Type 2 and 1 (US Mint)

side by side

Silver Bar, 250g, Degussa (historical)