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What a great spot. Are all of the staff so eagle-eyed? I bet Miranda has never lost a needle in her haystack then.

Fascinating stuff and thank you for the pics. I hope Lawrence is well.

Thank you for this info. I thought it was a practical joke (in Lawrence’s style). 5 years into collecting gold coins and I’m still not ready to take my L plates off. Here’s to the next 5.

Seems like the Royal Mint is taking more liberties with the traditional G+D design. Or is it Doug the photographer at Chards with an exclusive special reverse reverse?

Imagine what it would be worth with a QA sticker as well.

Decisions, decisions. Not so easy when there’s thousands of pounds at stake. When I mentioned that I tend to dwell on decisions until I’m happy with whatever I decide, I failed to mention that they’re not always right in the longer run but they seemed right at the time! Knowing I couldn’t afford a £5 proof Memorial in a box set I took the plunge on the raw £5 BU. When the opportunity came to buy a PF70 £5 sov off a TSF member then I upgraded to that. The Bank of Wife had to help me out with that one. So now I’m dwelling on the future of the BU coin. I’ve still not got around to the Coronation sov yet but I “think” I know my plan. It would be very handy to have a 2nd wife though! TBH box sets are not my thing. Hopefully the monarchy will settle down for a while now, I can settle my IOU and then think about obtaining a first ever SOTD myself (raw though, so I could admire its plain edge).

I tend to dwell on such decisions for a considerable time before I arrive at the conclusion I’m happy with. I share your concerns regarding what you could end up with from the Mint. You did really well to get a SOTD and, maybe you could wait and see what comes up on the secondary market? Bearing in mind the high mintage of the sov as well as the low mintage of your SOTD, perhaps you could forego acquiring everything in the 4 coin set and just go for the £2 proof instead? Or is it more the prestige of owning the 4 coin set itself?

I don’t recall @westminstrel giving us the heads-up on that one!

The available to order coins must not be in stock yet, I suppose.

Buy the coin, not the slab - oops, I mean the damn box. I envy the RM wooden boxes with the “gold” hinges myself.

Gut feelings are one thing but I struggle with the FOMO personally!

Just FYI Paul I did the same calculations for the 5 coin Memorial box set when I bought a PF70 Quintuple off a TSF member. A raw Memorial Quintuple equated to £3197 on release, or £74 less than your estimate for this one.

Hi. If the 1907 Melbourne AUNC sov pictured immediately above is still available then I’d like to buy it please. I take it BT would be acceptable?

Beautiful collection @Paul. I hope to contribute to your thread myself soon. So is this you now owning 6% of the total mintage of those Platinum Jubilee crowns?

In general it’’s easy to criticise the RM. I like the occasional moan about them (quite rightly about the lack of any QC in particular). However, we complain about some mintages in general because they’re just too high, hence this topic of debate whether the long term value makes them a good investment or not. Yet other mintages are just too low and we complain that they sell out in a flash and we just can’t get hold of them. It can’t be easy to strike a balance and please everybody, collectors and flippers or both alike. The skill in spotting a winning coin release is based on more than factors beyond something that’s just a special release perhaps?

That would be over 95% achieving a 70 out of those sovereigns considered worthy of grading. Others (particularly in box sets) have been returned straight back to the RM as being unsatisfactory.

I think I still have the RM cards and the BU coins are just in individual plastic wrappers. I never ripped them open and put them in the card’s slots. PM me if I can help.

Apologies for the late reply but I found myself clicking on the non-PM section out of curiosity when searching for the Today I Received section. Yes, I’ve got the 10p A to Zs (base metal) stashed somewhere. Bought them uncirculated from the Royal Mint at the time on a whim. Are you missing any or after the lot, or perhaps you were just making polite conversation?

I know very little about crypto, but driving all the way to Lancashire in a fiat is very risky in my opinion.

I have mine currently at NCS/NGC for conservation and grading prior to selling. I doubt it will achieve PF70UC because it looked like it had a small milk spot in the field behind Una’s head. I’ll bear you guys in mind in the meantime though.

I visited Chards for the first time last month and was hoping to see him there so I could say hi. I too enjoy his “highly insightful views” (as Dicker so well summed up) and his upbeat sense of humour. I’m a bit concerned because we haven’t seen him at the Rogue Apostrophe club recently either - and it’s his round!

Mintages? Prices? Available to order date? Month you actually receive your order? I don’t like all of this speculation. But you have to speculate to accumulate, as the saying goes.

I think that the Platinum Jubilee proof £5 sovereign/Quintuple had a limited edition of 700 coins which were only available in the 5 coin box sets. Not 100% sure though. The MCM wouldn’t be many more. The Memorial proof £5 sovereign/Quintuple had a limited edition of 1,200 coins and a MCM of 1,230. You’re right about the matte version having a lower mintage than the proof version, namely 1,000 limited edition coins and 1,010 MCM which numbers Westminstrel has since confirmed.

I don’t see the problem myself. The box will be a work of art and will even have a QC sticker on it 😀

Those mintages seem strange to me. I thought that the special one-off design of the Memorial sov series, along with the first effigy of KCIII would lead the RM to anticipate more demand for the Memorial sov itself rather than the forthcoming 2023 regular series. We know that the demand for that high number of Memorial sovs simply wasn’t there and the large numbers which were still available on the RM website just before the cut off date suddenly vanished overnight, presumably palmed off for others to sell on the Mint’s behalf. I struggle to see why almost 20,000 regular 2023 sovereigns will sell better than the Memorial ones. Granted that the info passed to @Frenchie is not from an official source, we don’t know if that mintage number is LE or MCM and we don’t know the price. In comparison the Memorial sov cost £695 and the mintages were 17,500 LE and 23,160 MCM. It will be interesting to watch events whenever they’re on sale. It was kind of Frenchie to share what he was told though. The suggested lower mintages of the Piedfort and the £5 coins seem sensible though.