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I bought both the matte Memorial and the matte Platinum Jubilee quintuples. The Memorial was purchased raw through a third party RM distributor on release date. It arrived with either hairs or other debris on it so I asked @GoldDiggerDave to conserve it and he did a delightful job. My matte Platinum Jubilee was bought graded. I didn’t have the cash to buy the proof versions at the time, but buying the matte versions didn’t turn out to be my best decisions. Little did I know that I’d go on to buy both proof versions several months along the line, so buying the matte versions proved to be a false economy with hindsight. I can always move them on though at some point. Truth of the matter is that they’re nice big shiny gold coins but they don’t have the same eye appeal as the proof versions in my humble opinion.

True, but they didn’t steal his bog roll so he’s still got his paper gold.

That was one of the Hattons of London marketing company’s Una and the Lion series which was marketed as the world’s first 24 carat sovereign coins. They also have a VR Victoria Regina mintmark on them, along with the name of the coin size (quarter sov on this one). Having acquired a full size Una I was not best pleased to see various private Mints subsequently pushing them out in all sizes and with various mintmark tweaks. There were some EIC (East India Company) mintmark ones too. My research closer to the time indicated that Hattons had an original mintage limitation of 2,999 quarter sovs, rising to 4,999 worldwide if they could flog any more. Their sales price was all over the place, commencing with an introductory price of £99, followed by £199 thereafter and a website price of £299 prior to sell out.

2017 was such a busy year with 3 SOTDs, though I note that Rich’s book indicates that only the first SOTD of the year appears to have been a complete sell out. I recall that there was confusion at the time of how you would go about distinguishing between the first 2017 SOTD and the third one, as both had milled edges. Only the middle SOTD struck on 1 July 2017 has the plain edge. Looking back at my notes, the 6 Feb SOTD is almost identical to the 20 Nov one but the 6 Feb one apparently has narrower ribbing on the reeded edge than the 20 Nov one. Geeks like @westminstrel will hopefully already know this of course. I don’t have any of them myself, and although I like my coins slabbed, I think I would appreciate the beauty of the plain edge 2017 SOTD in its original capsule in this case, as I’m guessing that unique feature is largely hidden in a slab. I apologise to @westminstrel for calling you a geek. Modern Sovereign Specialist sounds much better!

Fair comment and I respect your point. I’ve sometimes helped out newcomers to the FB group when they ask for advice on certain quintuple sovs, for example. But I also think it pays to do your own research when trading. I also love the fact that TSF promotes discussion between like minded coin collectors, whereas a lot of stuff on FB seems to be requests from new members who have inherited a coin and just want to sell the damn thing before it burns a hole through their hand. FB group membership figures must be inflated by people with no particular interest in coin collecting but just want to flog a coin for cash and simply move on.

I agree with Dave’s comment. Whenever I see a coin that I already own being offered for sale elsewhere, I simply take a screenshot of it on my iPad for future reference. It mightn’t sell for the amount requested, but at least it gives me an indication of the present value of the coin @Jbend. Hopefully you’re in a financial position to take @Agaupl’s advice by holding on to your coin and get a taste for its value in the meantime. @Orpster (who has already contributed to this thread) also freely offers advice on a FB group I belong to and, although our paths haven’t crossed as yet, I’m sure that a lot of TSF members will verify that he clearly knows his stuff. Not forgetting @Paul of course, who sneaked his comment in ahead of me.

I acquired a 1989 4 coin set 5 years ago which also sat in the vault until I recently took the plunge and decided to get them conserved via NCS and graded using the services of GoldDigger. I’m glad I made that decision as 3 of the set achieved PF70 UC, including the £5 coin. The exception was the full sov which was PF69 UC. I’ve collected the majority of the quintuple special designs, but no longer see the need to hold the full set, hence my decision to get them professionally graded to get a better idea of their value. Having said that, I still hold the full set and haven’t put any up for sale yet due to the current market. I monitor sale prices of the 1989s on a FB group. That’s my experience, so best of luck @modofantasma

Or sending back with QC issues.

Robin by name. Robbing by nature.

Hi Bully. In future can you please use anything but Biden’s initials, or even POTUS will suffice maybe? You gave me a nasty fright when I was reading your very informative content on this thread. Nothing to do with war, but JB are my wife’s initials.

Very good point. It makes me feel better for calling it quits after the Jubilee and Memorial purchases. I can happily live without the Charles crowned version now.

Having posted the above comments last night, I just wanted to clear something up. Some people may have read my original post and then wondered why I’ve just bought a Jubilee off QuantumStacker. My original Jubilee quintuple was the budget Matte version in a PF70 first release label. I’ve just upgraded to the proof PF70 quintuple courtesy of QuantumStacker. My original Memorial quintuple was a raw Matte, which I upgraded several months ago by buying one of ST1986’s PF70 first releases. So basically I’d started on the big coin bottom steps with the matte versions and I’ve just clawed my way upwards. I’ll stick with my decision to steer clear of the Coronation versions though. Not the greatest decisions to avoid the costly proofs and initially just buy the cheaper mattes. I’ve shelled out a lot since by getting the proofs now anyway, so I think I’ve righted my initial 2 wrongs. Each to their own and their own budget at the time, but I’ve got a growing backlog of coins that I need to move on when the market conditions are better.

You know you’re on the right path when you get the Paul seal of approval. Thanks @Paul

How much do baked beans cost these days @Paul? I’m not so sure these are even easy to afford these days.

I would like to buy it please @QuantumStacker. I’ve stared at it for far too long LOL. It would be an upgrade on my matte version. Please PM me at your earliest opportunity for BT details. If the Forum goes offline for the server issues in the meantime then of course I’ll keep my offer open. Cheers.

Thank you for that James. I wish I’d known that before my 1989s were recently graded. I love the Tudor Rose reverse.

The releases of the Jubilee series, the Memorial series and the Coronation series have hit collectors hard in our pockets as we all know. Likewise the cost of living crisis. I wasn’t too sure about stretching to a third quintuple purchase after the first 2 special releases. In the end, I decided to give the Coronation quintuple a miss, simply basing my decision on the fact that the Jubilee and Memorial special designs appear on the front of my slabs, whereas crowned Charles would only appear on the back. The 2016 sov with the one-off effigy of the Queen suffered the same fate.

PM now sent @ST1986

Hi Stefan. I’d like to purchase one of these please. I’ll PM you tomorrow to check that there’s no change to your bank details since I bought the quintuple Memorial. I recently bought my son his first bullion sov and I’d like to buy him a top graded proof for Christmas so he can compare both versions side by side. Cheers. Steve

Yes, welcome to the forum. Was it a case of not hearing what the release is, or your account manager perhaps forgetting to tell you, do you think? @Paul might know, because he usually gets those calls too.

Shocking. I wonder just how many Aussie cricketers and swimming gold medalists have missed out on that over the years?

Can you “celebrate” a defeat? It could only be silver and not the gold.

But will it be a long queueueueueueue? 😀

Hi @Ignorant. Some of us collect, some of us stack and some of us do both, as we’re all aware. But when it comes to precious metal coins then we all invest. Some of us look to sell our investments on at a profit. Some of us like to hold onto our investments and ultimately gift them to sons, daughters or whoever. So when you suggest “some coins are just bullion, worth no more than their weight in gold and unlikely to appreciate in value” I would add that the value of bullion fluctuates in line with its constantly changing price on the precious metal markets. Simply buy your bullion when market prices are down and sell when the market is up and there’s your profit. Personally I wouldn’t refer to it as “just bullion”. After all, it’s still precious.

Impulse purchases maybe, but they should set your own pulse racing when you’ve got the coins in your hand. I bought the same coin in the First Release label from Mr T back in May, but you’ must have acquired these beauties at a truly rock bottom price.