richatthecroft

I say get rid of the graded section and split the sales into three- Silver, Gold & Platinum. 
Better still 4 sections- Silver, Gold, Platinum and a Pre- Decimal or a Pre-1950’s of whichever metal.
It won’t happen but at least I tried to make a suggestion that makes sense, is coherent and that enables navigating the sales section simple, quick and easy. 

Two lovely £5 Silver Proof Crowns arrived today 😃 
And a 2022 Premium Proof Annual Set. Out of stock everywhere now that I bought the last one at issue price from The Britannia Coin Company 😥 






 

2022 1oz Bullion Ronseal   Nothing to get too excited about in this wee collection, although it is good to see that both the Elephants' legs all reach the ground. So much more fortunate than several African leaders who disagreed with the 'flu-like pandemic that never wrought havoc across the continent. Their refusal to deceive their own people most certainly did not result in their assassinations. Just accidents, coincidences and "covid". They were not hanged for their opposition.   The Kook is good but does lend more than a nod to the 2020 RAM WMF 1oz coin. The vast majority of both 2021/22 Kookaburras are believed to have badly damaged and deformed, this following encounters with Queensland Police when the coins were being transported across State boundaries. Just doing their job.   It is well worth picking up a New Zealand 2020 Penguin. I agree with many that it the pictures do not to its 3-d effect justice. At around £30 and with a mintage of just 25,000 it is considerably better value than most 2022 bullion. Having been under 25,000 miles from somebody who coughed in 2020, most of the issue still have another 12 years quarantine still to complete. Coins are not legally allowed to be reimported to NZ due to the menacing risk of mass extermination of the already extinct bird.   The Maples continue to portray ERII in the most beguiling of fashions. She must be well chuffed. The only surprising element is that fascist Dictator Justin Castro didn't insist on the coin bearing his own portrait. This before he went into hiding from the Canadian people.   The Philly is yet one more Austrian Enigmatic Variation and can now only be purchased upon production of a vaccine passport, the sporting of a fylfot and the bellowing of three "Sieg Heils". Rumours of a forthcoming "Yellow Star privy" edition have not been confirmed.  

I say get rid of the graded section and split the sales into three- Silver, Gold & Platinum. 
Better still 4 sections- Silver, Gold, Platinum and a Pre- Decimal or a Pre-1950’s of whichever metal.
It won’t happen but at least I tried to make a suggestion that makes sense, is coherent and that enables navigating the sales section simple, quick and easy. 

Two lovely £5 Silver Proof Crowns arrived today 😃 
And a 2022 Premium Proof Annual Set. Out of stock everywhere now that I bought the last one at issue price from The Britannia Coin Company 😥 






 

Two lovely £5 Silver Proof Crowns arrived today 😃 
And a 2022 Premium Proof Annual Set. Out of stock everywhere now that I bought the last one at issue price from The Britannia Coin Company 😥 






 

Its only in the last year as the forum has grown and business members are charged higher fees  that it has become a big problem and unharmonious in my opinion.
Personally I only see it going one way if left unfettered, private individuals will just list elsewhere and stop looking in and the sales forum will simply become pages filled with dealers stock lists.

Interesting thread. 
 
As someone who's recently made the transition from collector/stacker to amateur trader to dealer, I am reading with interest and hearing what people are saying wrt the trade section, which is an important extension of the community, and can see that having it flooded with posts from a small number of members at the expense of other members is not conducive to the community spirit. 
I am always keen to hear feedback on my listings in the trade section, whether that be on the frequency, content, quality of offerings, pictures and price. I'll certainly be taking some advice from the comments here. I do feel it's excessive to list lots of items in individual listings so try to group items into listings to reduce the flooding. 
 
On the topic of the sections, I do totally agree that the current split of ungraded/graded is poor, and a more logical and even split to me would be:
Silver
Gold
Other metals (platinum, palladium, copper etc etc)
 
The ungraded section is way too busy. It is a jumble sale. But where ungraded is jumble, graded is tumble weed.
Split it more evenly as per the above and each section will strike a better balance of busyness. Posts won't be swamped out within an hour, and sections will get visited by buyer's according to what metal they're in the market for. 
Dealer sub forums I don't agree with, as they tend to be mostly ignored and under-utilised with a couple of notable exceptions

There's been almost 129,000 posts since 2014 in the 'ungraded' section Steve (see screenshot below,  but prior to March 2020 the graded/ ungraded coins were sold together between 2014 and early 2020.
Which bolsters my argument that its a pointless section.
@sovereignsteve or anyone else happy with the current jumble sale?  
Any opinion?  Or am I the only one who thinks the respective metals need separating out?
 
If we are all happy I'll stop my futile bleating- but its a bugbear of mine, and it must resonate with other Forum members?   
 

Its reasonably popular Steve-  5,200 posts since March 2020 however, its still pointless separating ungraded and graded coins- coins are coins.  
 
 
Perhaps not in terms of volume and throughput of Platinum however,  @ChrisSilver decided to organise the Forum into distinct sections- Silver, Gold & Platinum and the Platinum discussion section certainly lags behind the Gold and Silver.
The main discussion sections are separated out-  yet the sales section is a complete mess- akin to a jumble sale.  
I feel like I'm the only person that has drunk from the Well here- doesn't it make perfect sense to split sales into the respective metal?
 
 

For me, it’s not a lack of exposure it’s why have a section that doesn’t make any sense- a coin is a coin whether or not it’s in a slab or not.
Splitting up the metals makes sense to everyone.
Anyway, it won’t happen- @ChrisSilver already did his consultation prior to creating the nonsensical ‘Graded’ section.
Why don’t we do something radical and simplify and make the sales section coherent by splitting into Silver, Gold & Platinum? 

Anyone have any counter argument or foresee any problems with this simple format ?  

My main gripe is that it takes me so long to field through the sales threads, I tend not to keep up to date with them and consequently miss the good buys. I haven't bought for ages via TSF sales.

As someone has already mentioned, its should be limited to x amount of posts in x amount of time, a bump being allowed once a day as it currently is, in my opinion.
however, if I were a dealer having paid what they are asked to pay id want my money’s worth too and that sort of limit would not be acceptable.
The sales format just isn’t geared up to handle the loading a few dealer can easily put on it, never mind once the normal members are added in, it’s no wonder people get annoyed and push the bumping rules.
The forum needs to decide what it wants to be or do something significantly different like an eBay type environment for sales.
Edit: I also agree about splitting out the metals for what its worth. But I also remember when the highest paying members at the time were asked their opinion @richatthecroft and most were on a similar page to what you propose, but were basically told no and something quite different happened.

It would be much tidier and more consistent to follow the discussion section, yes.
Precious Metals Trading
Silver
Gold 
Platinum

For Platinum, perhaps call it the PGM section to fill it up a bit?

Its reasonably popular Steve-  5,200 posts since March 2020 however, its still pointless separating ungraded and graded coins- coins are coins.  
 
 
Perhaps not in terms of volume and throughput of Platinum however,  @ChrisSilver decided to organise the Forum into distinct sections- Silver, Gold & Platinum and the Platinum discussion section certainly lags behind the Gold and Silver.
The main discussion sections are separated out-  yet the sales section is a complete mess- akin to a jumble sale.  
I feel like I'm the only person that has drunk from the Well here- doesn't it make perfect sense to split sales into the respective metal?
 
 

Its reasonably popular Steve-  5,200 posts since March 2020 however, its still pointless separating ungraded and graded coins- coins are coins.  
 
 
Perhaps not in terms of volume and throughput of Platinum however,  @ChrisSilver decided to organise the Forum into distinct sections- Silver, Gold & Platinum and the Platinum discussion section certainly lags behind the Gold and Silver.
The main discussion sections are separated out-  yet the sales section is a complete mess- akin to a jumble sale.  
I feel like I'm the only person that has drunk from the Well here- doesn't it make perfect sense to split sales into the respective metal?
 
 

Two lovely £5 Silver Proof Crowns arrived today 😃 
And a 2022 Premium Proof Annual Set. Out of stock everywhere now that I bought the last one at issue price from The Britannia Coin Company 😥 






 

Two lovely £5 Silver Proof Crowns arrived today 😃 
And a 2022 Premium Proof Annual Set. Out of stock everywhere now that I bought the last one at issue price from The Britannia Coin Company 😥 






 

For me, it’s not a lack of exposure it’s why have a section that doesn’t make any sense- a coin is a coin whether or not it’s in a slab or not.
Splitting up the metals makes sense to everyone.
Anyway, it won’t happen- @ChrisSilver already did his consultation prior to creating the nonsensical ‘Graded’ section.
Why don’t we do something radical and simplify and make the sales section coherent by splitting into Silver, Gold & Platinum? 

Two lovely £5 Silver Proof Crowns arrived today 😃 
And a 2022 Premium Proof Annual Set. Out of stock everywhere now that I bought the last one at issue price from The Britannia Coin Company 😥 






 

Two lovely £5 Silver Proof Crowns arrived today 😃 
And a 2022 Premium Proof Annual Set. Out of stock everywhere now that I bought the last one at issue price from The Britannia Coin Company 😥 






 

I say get rid of the graded section and split the sales into three- Silver, Gold & Platinum. 
Better still 4 sections- Silver, Gold, Platinum and a Pre- Decimal or a Pre-1950’s of whichever metal.
It won’t happen but at least I tried to make a suggestion that makes sense, is coherent and that enables navigating the sales section simple, quick and easy. 

I say get rid of the graded section and split the sales into three- Silver, Gold & Platinum. 
Better still 4 sections- Silver, Gold, Platinum and a Pre- Decimal or a Pre-1950’s of whichever metal.
It won’t happen but at least I tried to make a suggestion that makes sense, is coherent and that enables navigating the sales section simple, quick and easy.