MancunianStacker

Similar actually. If you wanted to supress the price, simply publish the paper that shows how to do it. The prospect of cheap manufactured gold, it's price would plummet.
Actually, I'm surprised they haven't tried this yet. Get the MSM to spread the rumour it can be done.

Hardly "creating" gold, simply reducing a gold salt to metallic gold.
 
This is the true alchemy.
The holy grail would be to convert a base metal to gold, but you wouldn't tell anybody or produce much all in one go; drip feed the market🤫

Gold is a chemical element, so you can't make it from other elements, except by a nuclear reaction. That is so expensive, it is unlikely to be commercially viable any time in the near future.
There are asteroids that are mostly gold, so one possibility for getting lots of gold is to mine such an asteroid and return the product to Earth. This is still highly difficult and expensive, though it might become feasible later this century.
Another possibility is extracting minerals including gold by electrolysis of seawater. Again, the problem is expense. For this to become feasible, we would need to crack the problem of generating electricity from fusion power or from some other very cheap source. 

If and when we do manage to create gold in a laboratory, it will be real gold, and identical to all other gold already in existence.
I just tried and failed to find an excellent online article I read a few weeks ago about how and where earth's gold was formed, however there are many sources online which give a reaonable account, for example: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/11/211115123459.htm
One of your responses mentions radioactive gold. This is well known, but almost irrelevant to investors and the general public. I had a conversation some years ago with an "ex-atomic-scientist". I had stated that there were multiple radioactive isotopes of gold, and he was telling that there were none. In one sense, we were both right, but I was "righter" than him!
This is a good source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotopes_of_gold
The half lives are so short, in archaeological terms, that radioactive gold isotopes are almost non-existent in practical terms.
 

I tried stripping down an old laptop yesterday just to see what sort of bits were in there.... a lot of effort required on my part. (More fun with a lump hammer).
They used E waste for the medals in the last Olympics 

I’m ”hear” the Russians managed to do it but the cost involved in the alchemy cost more than the price of gold itself and it took a long time to get a decent amount made. But like any process if they can make it more efficient over the years maybe it will affect bullion prices.
Older coins and sovereigns could do well in the future as they I’ll be guaranteed as real gold and no chance of mock gold being used due to them being pre-fake good times.
Old slabbed (any lower grade) Sovereigns is something I’m buying more of.

That was more than 50 issues. There are quite some series with more than 21 issues. But they are annual issues. Kookaburra, Panda, RAM Kangaroo, Britannia...

Ah yes, think was the America the Beautiful now you come to mention it. 

There is a lot of new tech about recycling that may push the process forward, long way to go but it was a interesting watch. 
 
 

Quite like the sound of radioactive gold.... at least then you’ll be able to see those “special occasions” 1/8th sovereigns you see advertised in the Sunday papers better. 
 
 

https://www.wtamu.edu/~cbaird/sq/mobile/2014/05/02/can-gold-be-created-from-other-elements/
 
Couldn’t find the article about Russia but I read about that 5 years ago at least 

https://www.cnet.com/culture/bling-researchers-create-24k-gold-in-the-lab/

Has there ever been a coin series so large before? I know there has been sets before with multiple coins and the Perth mint lunar series that went on to the third series but has there been a pre planned coin series of this size before? When the Royal Mint can abandon their lunar series half way through, I am not sure this has much legs particularity with all the denominations and sizes, pre grades etc. I think the mint have fecked up big time, particularly as they struggling to fulfil other others they are releasing simultaneously I don’t see this going past coin, but I could be well wrong. 

total shambles

Haven’t even got my 1st coin 1oz I ordered yet 🤦‍♂️ 

The £5 will be a nice weighty chunk, X10 sovereigns worth of gold 

Are your sacks big enough to hold them all?
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I've had the five coin set put into my account, issue is limited to 70.

As expected, the RM is going to release a Piedfort Sovereign this year, with the same Royal Coat of Arms design as the Proof Sovereign.
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/4016556

I would not totally give up on this at this stage.  Whilst it may be a longshot,if you have a photo of the coin that was submitted to NGC and it had no corrosion on it then and came back with it , then on the face of it , this will have happened whilst they had it and they owe you a duty of care in handling it. You , or if it was submitted through a dealer, the submitter should I suggest write to the CEO of NGC in a measured and unhostile tone, expressing your/their extreme disappointment at what has happened , that you have used them a lot satisfactorily in the past  (if that is the case)and saying that you expect to be reimbursed for the damage that has been caused to the coin whilst it was with them and that they have not complied with their duty of care whilst it was with them.
They will obviously resist and blame anyone else they can and assuming that they respond negatively to your first approach , I would suggest following this up with a threat to draw attention to what has occurred with the coin media, which you might eventually want to follow through on if they do not play ball. 
As I say this is a longshot but for the sake of a few letters/emails it may be worth trying. 
In terms of what they might eventually offer you , if at all, I guess that it they will not give you the resale value but might give you what you paid for it.
You could also at the same time contact the RM as a customer of their's and ask them what they think might have caused the issue given that they have metallurgists working for them.
A friendly dealer eg @ Lawrence Chard , might have a better suggestion!
Good luck

That is going to seriously harm NGC’s  image and business now it is out that they take no responsibility for the care of the coin. 
 
The last coin I got graded myself was the last coin of the Queen’s beast series. I am currently quite happy for coins to sit in their boxes until whenever. I have bought graded coins, but am not rolling any dice during this pandemic/endemic. I can wait.
 
In other news, my 5oz Arms is being dispatched finally. 

These are graded by people using their bare hands. This has been happening on the 2oz up until now and now the 5oz. There is clearly something wrong in their process. 

Just received my Mox bar today too!

As money, some do, and most have.
But, as other members have said, there often remains some residual value for collectors, or other purposes, scrap metal, for example.
Before the euro, a common French coin was a nickel-brass 10 Francs, issued from 1974 to 1987. Their foreign exchange value in pounds sterling was about £1 each. Shortly after the euro's introduction, the French government stopped accepting these for redemption. We probably have a bagful or so of them, and would be delighted if we could get 10 pence each for them, but this is doubtful.

Got a few thousand 1oz silver coins to shift first sadly, once it hits a hundred quid an Oz like Mike Maloney's predictions said it would