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1/4 Oz gold would have been the perfect size gold coin for a 23 coin series. Imagine collecting even the 1 Oz gold (which is the smallest gold denomination) for the entire series. That’s some serious money. 🫤

There’s no 1/4 oz gold for this series (yet). 

If these are what is coining out then the 1/4 gold will be a great buy for sovereign collectors 

Excellent points @westminstrel and @foinikas! There will be a range of views on this of course, and no 'right' or 'wrong' (though there will be a 'majority' move, which is an interesting topic I think in itself)
You have helped clarify things for me (it's good to talk!) as to where I think I presently stand. I was a collector of recent modern QEII proof and (certain) DPLs e.g. SotD. And I think that is what collectors will now concentrate on. The Sovereign under Charles could continue for another twenty or so years, and that is too deep for my pockets, plus I have no stress going forward if I consolidate my collection now @refero has also made some excellent points from a different perspective, if I do get anything I am currently inclined to only the 'main Sovereigns' next year.
While all eyes are on that, I think it's an excellent time to look for added value in all the different QEII Sovs (and there are many 'sleepers' imo - for now! - we have been lucky enough to have).

Oooh, there are a lot of ghosts haunting German silverland right now. I'm no expert, but I'll try to summarise the situation in simple terms. Since 2014, 19% VAT has also applied to silver coins in Germany, apart from collector coins, and not only to silver medals, silver bars, etc. The VAT on silver collector coins has been left at 7%. However, there was, or is, an exemption as a transitional solution, the differential taxation. This means that traders only have to pay 19% on their purchase/sale difference to the tax office and do not have to show any sum on the invoice. A week ago on Friday, traders received a letter by e-mail from the Federal Ministry of Finance stating that the differential taxation is no longer valid. In this video you can see the letter, I got the link from the German silver forum:
https://youtube.com/shorts/zVju95lYf6w?feature=share
I don't know the channel, one of the two is the operator of a relatively well-known online shop. Apparently there is no legal regulation for this yet and nobody knows what is valid and from when. On the same evening, almost all dealers raised their prices by around 20/30%, but still almost all show the margin scheme. The biggest problem for me as a customer, however, will be the dealer purchase prices in the future, if they cannot settle them with the margin scheme. Then we will also get such miserable dealer purchase prices, like you in the UK. If we stay at 60/70% premium for simple silver bullion, the subject of investment silver is finished for me. Luckily I already have 3 Britannias, so that will have to be enough for me. All coins that cost at least 250% above spot are considered collector coins and will continue to be taxed at 7%. They are expensive enough anyway.
I think all loopholes in Germany are simply being plugged now. I heard they need money. And since all dealers have used the exemption for almost every coin, it was only a matter of time before it was suspended. It's almost a miracle that it was, or is, valid for almost 9 years.

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2022 Niue - DC Comics - Superhero Collection - Green Lantern


2022 Australia - Chinese Mythical Creatures - Golden Dragon

Ah that's fine, thanks - all understood
You obviously don't get the same google results as I do - but then you do know it's tailored to your own search history, etc (and what your 'smartphone' eavesdrops on)? The images I pulled out (no pun intended!) would make @HerefordBullyun blush (possibly - but then, maybe, his recommendations that is why I got them in the first place - ? ).

I am not sure why you responded 'laugh' at my previous comment @LawrenceChard
Thanks Lawrence, that's what I thought
I don't think I implied that he'd have to continue wearing it though, or it would be on his portrait on coinage (?). I have said for years on here that he would not be 'pictured' crowned. I meant it only as a genuine question about the ritual and ceremony compared to the coin design.
On a lighter note, I'm also now very confused what a 'Coronatiom' is. I did google it to try to find out but only got a page full of some very rude pictures, which I am sure wasn't what you meant

I had conjectured about why we got different results, but didn't like to comment.
Some may think that's unlike me!
😎

Ah that's fine, thanks - all understood
You obviously don't get the same google results as I do - but then you do know it's tailored to your own search history, etc (and what your 'smartphone' eavesdrops on)? The images I pulled out (no pun intended!) would make @HerefordBullyun blush (possibly - but then, maybe, his recommendations that is why I got them in the first place - ? ).

Ah that's fine, thanks - all understood
You obviously don't get the same google results as I do - but then you do know it's tailored to your own search history, etc (and what your 'smartphone' eavesdrops on)? The images I pulled out (no pun intended!) would make @HerefordBullyun blush (possibly - but then, maybe, his recommendations that is why I got them in the first place - ? ).

@Darr3nG

Ah that's fine, thanks - all understood
You obviously don't get the same google results as I do - but then you do know it's tailored to your own search history, etc (and what your 'smartphone' eavesdrops on)? The images I pulled out (no pun intended!) would make @HerefordBullyun blush (possibly - but then, maybe, his recommendations that is why I got them in the first place - ? ).

"I am not sure why you responded 'laugh' at my previous comment"
I must have run out of "likes", and I do like the "laugh" emoji, but I can change it if you like!
"I don't think I implied that he'd have to continue wearing it though, or it would be on his portrait on coinage (?). I have said for years on here that he would not be 'pictured' crowned. I meant it only as a genuine question about the ritual and ceremony compared to the coin design."
No, you didn't, but I like to have a little fun with my answers and comments.
"Coronatiom"? It's a fairly typical LC typo, but I did check your Google results, and this was the first one:
https://www.facebook.com/bettysburger2018/videos/miss-universe-2021-coronatiom/2632428043717295/
They all looked very nice and wholesome to me, even if not all completely natural.
I wonder if any of them would like a private vieweing of my stack!
😎
 

I thought I'd read that Charles will be coronated with the 'Edward (the first) crown' which was made for Charles II upon the Restoration in 1661.
If so, am I confusing heraldry with ritual?

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My friend recommended this forum to me, thanks for adding me. I have a keen interest in all metals, I'm a panel beater fabricator welder by trade.
I've spent many years metal detecting & found some amazing stuff, I've bought & sold coins & artifacts for years & i belong to a couple of clubs.
I built a furnace years ago & have melted aluminum, brass, bronze, copper, silver & gold. 
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No idea why that would be...

Thanks for the update, but after the last coin The Who I'm out.

Available in the usual proof and bullion variations.
For the obverse impression the late Queen’s effigy with the inscription “· ELIZABETH II · D · G · REG · F · D · 200 POUNDS · 2022”, and for the reverse a depiction of the silhouettes of the band The Rolling Stones accompanied by the inscription “THE ROLLING STONES” and the dates “’62 – ’22”. The coin shall have a grained edge.’
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/4179065

Excellent points @westminstrel and @foinikas! There will be a range of views on this of course, and no 'right' or 'wrong' (though there will be a 'majority' move, which is an interesting topic I think in itself)
You have helped clarify things for me (it's good to talk!) as to where I think I presently stand. I was a collector of recent modern QEII proof and (certain) DPLs e.g. SotD. And I think that is what collectors will now concentrate on. The Sovereign under Charles could continue for another twenty or so years, and that is too deep for my pockets, plus I have no stress going forward if I consolidate my collection now @refero has also made some excellent points from a different perspective, if I do get anything I am currently inclined to only the 'main Sovereigns' next year.
While all eyes are on that, I think it's an excellent time to look for added value in all the different QEII Sovs (and there are many 'sleepers' imo - for now! - we have been lucky enough to have).

it is true the RM has, in the last 10 years, started a commercial policy that ended up by flooding the market with so many different coins, all of them "unique", "special" etc etc. And of course if everything is unique, nothing is at the end of the day.
But, guys, this is also due to our behaviour. If those commercial coins hadnt sold within minutes i quite doubt this insanity would have endured. I personally keep my philosophy without getting too much stress. The sovereign is the proof one. One per year. Be that with the classic reverse or with a "special" one. I litterally dont care about SoTD, plain edges, piedfort, double sovs, etc etc etc. If you just stay with the "normal" proof, considering the period 2000 to today, i count, as special designs; 
2002-2005-2012-2016-2017-2022
then of course you can consider glyph, marks etc etc (2018-2021 etc etc) but this is something non relevant.
Another thing is the "coronation coinage/set"; this is litterally something iconic, and i agree it can be plain edge, it can be with the classic st george and the dragon, it can be coats of army, it can be whatever they want. It is once per monarch.

I’m sure there will be an entire range of coins to celebrate the Coronation, just as there was for the Platinum Jubilee this year.
What would distinguish the 2023 “special reverse Sovereign” from any such coin besides the fact it is 22 carat and called a “Sovereign”?
I hope you see my point so you can understand why I may be coming across as unwelcoming of this reverse choice.
In the end, I intend getting the 2023 Sovereign because, for me, the Coronation year is what makes it special. Not the design. I would’ve bought it without a second thought even if it were to have the classic St. George and Dragon reverse.

Yes, the Royal Mint will want to monetize on the ascension of a new King, but as this is such a special event, i really do not understand why not everyone is welcoming this new design.
We are lucky enough to have the opportunity to purchase two special reverses in two consequent years. This is something to celebrate!
There will be plenty of years to buy the standard reverse for people who are happy to buy that every year. 
I am very excited for this release and hopefully they will keep proof coin mintages within a good range (not very high mintage).
 

Same here. After 2023 I think I’m done with modern Sovs. While a change previously felt special, it now just feels gimmicky.
With the St. George and the Dragon design, the Royal Mint should be proud of a centuries old tradition and heritage that has managed to endure the test of time. It’s what makes the Sovereign so iconic - both to the UK and to the Royal Mint. It’s something to be proud of.
Instead, the Royal Mint seems to be varying the design at every opportunity just for the sake of it.
There are 100s of coins and ranges with annual variations - not just by the Royal Mint, but by numerous other Mints around the world as well.
I think the Sovereign risks losing its identity and becoming like any of these coin ranges out there.

I'm with you (even thinking about stopping collecting modern Sovs now). I was planning on getting the first year of Charles before I finished my collection, but this puts me in a quandary, as I'll also feel I have to buy the following year for the first St George.
I'd rather not buy tbh, but...
The two heralds back to back make perfect sense and will be an incredible 'twinset' and a bit of a banker imo.
The worry there is all the variations and whatnot the Mint will pull