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    arphethean got a reaction from Spyder in My silver Panda collection!   
    About a year ago I first started taking an interest in 1oz China silver pandas after someone on the forum listed a short date run of recent years which I snapped up.
    Once I'd decided to start collecting a date run I quickly amassed a few more years, and it was about that point when I discovered that some years are particularly hard to find, and also when I discovered that there are different varieties of each coin. But it was too late for that - I was hooked! I posted this thread: 
     
    It became something of an obsession, but armed with Peter Anthony's panda book I persevered.
    A year on, my collection has reached this stage, and I have only three coins still to find. Some coins have been peculiarly elusive, like the 2007 of which I eventually picked up a bundle of 15 which had been imported from China!
    1989, 1990 and 1991
    The series of 1oz bullion pandas strictly began in 1989. It is convenient for the panda collector to remind themselves of that, because although there are silver pandas going back to 1982, they are either not 1oz or not bullion, so they don't count!
    1989 had only 1 variety, but I have collected two so as to show both sides. After this there are two or three varieties for each year up to 2003. This is because they were minted at three different mints: Shanghai (which are on the top row) and Shenzyang (bottom row). The Shenzhen Guobao mint-coins only began in 1999.

     
    1992, 1993, 1994 and 1995
    In 1995 for the first time there were 3 varieties. The bottom one, the "micro date" is one of the rarest varieties of panda. Both came from the Shenyang mint

     
    1996, 1997, 1998 and 1999
    I have still to source a 1998 Large date and the extremely rare 1999 large date with the serif on the 1 (which I believe was the first silver panda minted at Shenzhen Guobao).

     
    2000, 2001, and 2002
    The gap here is the Shanghai-minted 2000, which in contrast with the frosted-ring Shenzhen Guobao panda had a mirror-finish ring on the date side. This is one of the hardest-to-find and most expensive panda (aside from the silly-money 2003 with small D)

     
    2003, 2004 and 2005.
    2003 had two versions - one with a mirror/satin texture of bamboo in the background to the right of the panda and one with a more frosted finish.
    Although the others from 2002 to 2005 all had the same design, they have come from different mints as seen from the edge of the seals. I am endeavouring to collect one of each so still looking for sealed 2003s. 

     
    2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009.
    These were not issued in seals any more.

     
    2010, 2011, 2012, 2013. 

     
    2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017.
    For the only time in 2015, the panda did not show the weight, "Ag" and purity on the coin, but was still 1oz of 999 silver. This was a highly controversial change, so in 2016 they put these details back, and replaced it with another controversial move - they went metric and decreased the weight to only 30g of silver!

     
    2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021.
    This is as far as I've got so far, but I should be able to add 2022 in the next couple of weeks when the very first ones arrive from China in a very fun new design!

     
    Many members of the forum have helped me greatly in assembling this collection. A special mention should go to @DavePanda who has given me loads of invaluable advice, lent me his Peter Anthony book, and sold me many of the coins in the collection.
  2. Like
    arphethean got a reaction from 8ace in My silver Panda collection!   
    About a year ago I first started taking an interest in 1oz China silver pandas after someone on the forum listed a short date run of recent years which I snapped up.
    Once I'd decided to start collecting a date run I quickly amassed a few more years, and it was about that point when I discovered that some years are particularly hard to find, and also when I discovered that there are different varieties of each coin. But it was too late for that - I was hooked! I posted this thread: 
     
    It became something of an obsession, but armed with Peter Anthony's panda book I persevered.
    A year on, my collection has reached this stage, and I have only three coins still to find. Some coins have been peculiarly elusive, like the 2007 of which I eventually picked up a bundle of 15 which had been imported from China!
    1989, 1990 and 1991
    The series of 1oz bullion pandas strictly began in 1989. It is convenient for the panda collector to remind themselves of that, because although there are silver pandas going back to 1982, they are either not 1oz or not bullion, so they don't count!
    1989 had only 1 variety, but I have collected two so as to show both sides. After this there are two or three varieties for each year up to 2003. This is because they were minted at three different mints: Shanghai (which are on the top row) and Shenzyang (bottom row). The Shenzhen Guobao mint-coins only began in 1999.

     
    1992, 1993, 1994 and 1995
    In 1995 for the first time there were 3 varieties. The bottom one, the "micro date" is one of the rarest varieties of panda. Both came from the Shenyang mint

     
    1996, 1997, 1998 and 1999
    I have still to source a 1998 Large date and the extremely rare 1999 large date with the serif on the 1 (which I believe was the first silver panda minted at Shenzhen Guobao).

     
    2000, 2001, and 2002
    The gap here is the Shanghai-minted 2000, which in contrast with the frosted-ring Shenzhen Guobao panda had a mirror-finish ring on the date side. This is one of the hardest-to-find and most expensive panda (aside from the silly-money 2003 with small D)

     
    2003, 2004 and 2005.
    2003 had two versions - one with a mirror/satin texture of bamboo in the background to the right of the panda and one with a more frosted finish.
    Although the others from 2002 to 2005 all had the same design, they have come from different mints as seen from the edge of the seals. I am endeavouring to collect one of each so still looking for sealed 2003s. 

     
    2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009.
    These were not issued in seals any more.

     
    2010, 2011, 2012, 2013. 

     
    2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017.
    For the only time in 2015, the panda did not show the weight, "Ag" and purity on the coin, but was still 1oz of 999 silver. This was a highly controversial change, so in 2016 they put these details back, and replaced it with another controversial move - they went metric and decreased the weight to only 30g of silver!

     
    2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021.
    This is as far as I've got so far, but I should be able to add 2022 in the next couple of weeks when the very first ones arrive from China in a very fun new design!

     
    Many members of the forum have helped me greatly in assembling this collection. A special mention should go to @DavePanda who has given me loads of invaluable advice, lent me his Peter Anthony book, and sold me many of the coins in the collection.
  3. Super Like
    arphethean got a reaction from HonestMoneyGoldSilver in My silver Panda collection!   
    About a year ago I first started taking an interest in 1oz China silver pandas after someone on the forum listed a short date run of recent years which I snapped up.
    Once I'd decided to start collecting a date run I quickly amassed a few more years, and it was about that point when I discovered that some years are particularly hard to find, and also when I discovered that there are different varieties of each coin. But it was too late for that - I was hooked! I posted this thread: 
     
    It became something of an obsession, but armed with Peter Anthony's panda book I persevered.
    A year on, my collection has reached this stage, and I have only three coins still to find. Some coins have been peculiarly elusive, like the 2007 of which I eventually picked up a bundle of 15 which had been imported from China!
    1989, 1990 and 1991
    The series of 1oz bullion pandas strictly began in 1989. It is convenient for the panda collector to remind themselves of that, because although there are silver pandas going back to 1982, they are either not 1oz or not bullion, so they don't count!
    1989 had only 1 variety, but I have collected two so as to show both sides. After this there are two or three varieties for each year up to 2003. This is because they were minted at three different mints: Shanghai (which are on the top row) and Shenzyang (bottom row). The Shenzhen Guobao mint-coins only began in 1999.

     
    1992, 1993, 1994 and 1995
    In 1995 for the first time there were 3 varieties. The bottom one, the "micro date" is one of the rarest varieties of panda. Both came from the Shenyang mint

     
    1996, 1997, 1998 and 1999
    I have still to source a 1998 Large date and the extremely rare 1999 large date with the serif on the 1 (which I believe was the first silver panda minted at Shenzhen Guobao).

     
    2000, 2001, and 2002
    The gap here is the Shanghai-minted 2000, which in contrast with the frosted-ring Shenzhen Guobao panda had a mirror-finish ring on the date side. This is one of the hardest-to-find and most expensive panda (aside from the silly-money 2003 with small D)

     
    2003, 2004 and 2005.
    2003 had two versions - one with a mirror/satin texture of bamboo in the background to the right of the panda and one with a more frosted finish.
    Although the others from 2002 to 2005 all had the same design, they have come from different mints as seen from the edge of the seals. I am endeavouring to collect one of each so still looking for sealed 2003s. 

     
    2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009.
    These were not issued in seals any more.

     
    2010, 2011, 2012, 2013. 

     
    2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017.
    For the only time in 2015, the panda did not show the weight, "Ag" and purity on the coin, but was still 1oz of 999 silver. This was a highly controversial change, so in 2016 they put these details back, and replaced it with another controversial move - they went metric and decreased the weight to only 30g of silver!

     
    2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021.
    This is as far as I've got so far, but I should be able to add 2022 in the next couple of weeks when the very first ones arrive from China in a very fun new design!

     
    Many members of the forum have helped me greatly in assembling this collection. A special mention should go to @DavePanda who has given me loads of invaluable advice, lent me his Peter Anthony book, and sold me many of the coins in the collection.
  4. Like
    arphethean got a reaction from Boruta in My silver Panda collection!   
    About a year ago I first started taking an interest in 1oz China silver pandas after someone on the forum listed a short date run of recent years which I snapped up.
    Once I'd decided to start collecting a date run I quickly amassed a few more years, and it was about that point when I discovered that some years are particularly hard to find, and also when I discovered that there are different varieties of each coin. But it was too late for that - I was hooked! I posted this thread: 
     
    It became something of an obsession, but armed with Peter Anthony's panda book I persevered.
    A year on, my collection has reached this stage, and I have only three coins still to find. Some coins have been peculiarly elusive, like the 2007 of which I eventually picked up a bundle of 15 which had been imported from China!
    1989, 1990 and 1991
    The series of 1oz bullion pandas strictly began in 1989. It is convenient for the panda collector to remind themselves of that, because although there are silver pandas going back to 1982, they are either not 1oz or not bullion, so they don't count!
    1989 had only 1 variety, but I have collected two so as to show both sides. After this there are two or three varieties for each year up to 2003. This is because they were minted at three different mints: Shanghai (which are on the top row) and Shenzyang (bottom row). The Shenzhen Guobao mint-coins only began in 1999.

     
    1992, 1993, 1994 and 1995
    In 1995 for the first time there were 3 varieties. The bottom one, the "micro date" is one of the rarest varieties of panda. Both came from the Shenyang mint

     
    1996, 1997, 1998 and 1999
    I have still to source a 1998 Large date and the extremely rare 1999 large date with the serif on the 1 (which I believe was the first silver panda minted at Shenzhen Guobao).

     
    2000, 2001, and 2002
    The gap here is the Shanghai-minted 2000, which in contrast with the frosted-ring Shenzhen Guobao panda had a mirror-finish ring on the date side. This is one of the hardest-to-find and most expensive panda (aside from the silly-money 2003 with small D)

     
    2003, 2004 and 2005.
    2003 had two versions - one with a mirror/satin texture of bamboo in the background to the right of the panda and one with a more frosted finish.
    Although the others from 2002 to 2005 all had the same design, they have come from different mints as seen from the edge of the seals. I am endeavouring to collect one of each so still looking for sealed 2003s. 

     
    2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009.
    These were not issued in seals any more.

     
    2010, 2011, 2012, 2013. 

     
    2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017.
    For the only time in 2015, the panda did not show the weight, "Ag" and purity on the coin, but was still 1oz of 999 silver. This was a highly controversial change, so in 2016 they put these details back, and replaced it with another controversial move - they went metric and decreased the weight to only 30g of silver!

     
    2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021.
    This is as far as I've got so far, but I should be able to add 2022 in the next couple of weeks when the very first ones arrive from China in a very fun new design!

     
    Many members of the forum have helped me greatly in assembling this collection. A special mention should go to @DavePanda who has given me loads of invaluable advice, lent me his Peter Anthony book, and sold me many of the coins in the collection.
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    arphethean got a reaction from silvergaga in My silver Panda collection!   
    Yes, this is true, but I don't know a lot about this. Peter Anthony notes on NGC's entry that it comes in a "variety of lustres" but I don't think I'd be able to correctly identify one variety from another without a direct comparison. There are of course many differences between individual coins, for example, 1990 large dates come in that satin finish on the frosty parts which is typical of early pandas, and a far brighter more brilliant frosted version but that's not a recognised variety although the difference is striking. 
    I might add the mirrored surface 1989 eventually if I come across one which has a noticeably different finish to those I own.
    My collection indeed has morphed over the year, and I've replaced individual coins with higher grade ones if I have come across one for sale, so I expect that to continue for some time, for example my Shenyang 1992 is a bit rough so I could replace it with a better example. And I am on my 4th 2000 frosted version before I found the one which now holds that place!
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    arphethean got a reaction from easyonthebrain in My silver Panda collection!   
    About a year ago I first started taking an interest in 1oz China silver pandas after someone on the forum listed a short date run of recent years which I snapped up.
    Once I'd decided to start collecting a date run I quickly amassed a few more years, and it was about that point when I discovered that some years are particularly hard to find, and also when I discovered that there are different varieties of each coin. But it was too late for that - I was hooked! I posted this thread: 
     
    It became something of an obsession, but armed with Peter Anthony's panda book I persevered.
    A year on, my collection has reached this stage, and I have only three coins still to find. Some coins have been peculiarly elusive, like the 2007 of which I eventually picked up a bundle of 15 which had been imported from China!
    1989, 1990 and 1991
    The series of 1oz bullion pandas strictly began in 1989. It is convenient for the panda collector to remind themselves of that, because although there are silver pandas going back to 1982, they are either not 1oz or not bullion, so they don't count!
    1989 had only 1 variety, but I have collected two so as to show both sides. After this there are two or three varieties for each year up to 2003. This is because they were minted at three different mints: Shanghai (which are on the top row) and Shenzyang (bottom row). The Shenzhen Guobao mint-coins only began in 1999.

     
    1992, 1993, 1994 and 1995
    In 1995 for the first time there were 3 varieties. The bottom one, the "micro date" is one of the rarest varieties of panda. Both came from the Shenyang mint

     
    1996, 1997, 1998 and 1999
    I have still to source a 1998 Large date and the extremely rare 1999 large date with the serif on the 1 (which I believe was the first silver panda minted at Shenzhen Guobao).

     
    2000, 2001, and 2002
    The gap here is the Shanghai-minted 2000, which in contrast with the frosted-ring Shenzhen Guobao panda had a mirror-finish ring on the date side. This is one of the hardest-to-find and most expensive panda (aside from the silly-money 2003 with small D)

     
    2003, 2004 and 2005.
    2003 had two versions - one with a mirror/satin texture of bamboo in the background to the right of the panda and one with a more frosted finish.
    Although the others from 2002 to 2005 all had the same design, they have come from different mints as seen from the edge of the seals. I am endeavouring to collect one of each so still looking for sealed 2003s. 

     
    2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009.
    These were not issued in seals any more.

     
    2010, 2011, 2012, 2013. 

     
    2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017.
    For the only time in 2015, the panda did not show the weight, "Ag" and purity on the coin, but was still 1oz of 999 silver. This was a highly controversial change, so in 2016 they put these details back, and replaced it with another controversial move - they went metric and decreased the weight to only 30g of silver!

     
    2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021.
    This is as far as I've got so far, but I should be able to add 2022 in the next couple of weeks when the very first ones arrive from China in a very fun new design!

     
    Many members of the forum have helped me greatly in assembling this collection. A special mention should go to @DavePanda who has given me loads of invaluable advice, lent me his Peter Anthony book, and sold me many of the coins in the collection.
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    arphethean reacted to Tritoon01 in My silver Panda collection!   
    If I'm not mistaken, the 1989 panda also has a variety - mirrored surfaces1989. 🙃
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    arphethean got a reaction from K0K0T in My silver Panda collection!   
    About a year ago I first started taking an interest in 1oz China silver pandas after someone on the forum listed a short date run of recent years which I snapped up.
    Once I'd decided to start collecting a date run I quickly amassed a few more years, and it was about that point when I discovered that some years are particularly hard to find, and also when I discovered that there are different varieties of each coin. But it was too late for that - I was hooked! I posted this thread: 
     
    It became something of an obsession, but armed with Peter Anthony's panda book I persevered.
    A year on, my collection has reached this stage, and I have only three coins still to find. Some coins have been peculiarly elusive, like the 2007 of which I eventually picked up a bundle of 15 which had been imported from China!
    1989, 1990 and 1991
    The series of 1oz bullion pandas strictly began in 1989. It is convenient for the panda collector to remind themselves of that, because although there are silver pandas going back to 1982, they are either not 1oz or not bullion, so they don't count!
    1989 had only 1 variety, but I have collected two so as to show both sides. After this there are two or three varieties for each year up to 2003. This is because they were minted at three different mints: Shanghai (which are on the top row) and Shenzyang (bottom row). The Shenzhen Guobao mint-coins only began in 1999.

     
    1992, 1993, 1994 and 1995
    In 1995 for the first time there were 3 varieties. The bottom one, the "micro date" is one of the rarest varieties of panda. Both came from the Shenyang mint

     
    1996, 1997, 1998 and 1999
    I have still to source a 1998 Large date and the extremely rare 1999 large date with the serif on the 1 (which I believe was the first silver panda minted at Shenzhen Guobao).

     
    2000, 2001, and 2002
    The gap here is the Shanghai-minted 2000, which in contrast with the frosted-ring Shenzhen Guobao panda had a mirror-finish ring on the date side. This is one of the hardest-to-find and most expensive panda (aside from the silly-money 2003 with small D)

     
    2003, 2004 and 2005.
    2003 had two versions - one with a mirror/satin texture of bamboo in the background to the right of the panda and one with a more frosted finish.
    Although the others from 2002 to 2005 all had the same design, they have come from different mints as seen from the edge of the seals. I am endeavouring to collect one of each so still looking for sealed 2003s. 

     
    2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009.
    These were not issued in seals any more.

     
    2010, 2011, 2012, 2013. 

     
    2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017.
    For the only time in 2015, the panda did not show the weight, "Ag" and purity on the coin, but was still 1oz of 999 silver. This was a highly controversial change, so in 2016 they put these details back, and replaced it with another controversial move - they went metric and decreased the weight to only 30g of silver!

     
    2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021.
    This is as far as I've got so far, but I should be able to add 2022 in the next couple of weeks when the very first ones arrive from China in a very fun new design!

     
    Many members of the forum have helped me greatly in assembling this collection. A special mention should go to @DavePanda who has given me loads of invaluable advice, lent me his Peter Anthony book, and sold me many of the coins in the collection.
  9. Super LOVE
    arphethean got a reaction from Gruff in My silver Panda collection!   
    About a year ago I first started taking an interest in 1oz China silver pandas after someone on the forum listed a short date run of recent years which I snapped up.
    Once I'd decided to start collecting a date run I quickly amassed a few more years, and it was about that point when I discovered that some years are particularly hard to find, and also when I discovered that there are different varieties of each coin. But it was too late for that - I was hooked! I posted this thread: 
     
    It became something of an obsession, but armed with Peter Anthony's panda book I persevered.
    A year on, my collection has reached this stage, and I have only three coins still to find. Some coins have been peculiarly elusive, like the 2007 of which I eventually picked up a bundle of 15 which had been imported from China!
    1989, 1990 and 1991
    The series of 1oz bullion pandas strictly began in 1989. It is convenient for the panda collector to remind themselves of that, because although there are silver pandas going back to 1982, they are either not 1oz or not bullion, so they don't count!
    1989 had only 1 variety, but I have collected two so as to show both sides. After this there are two or three varieties for each year up to 2003. This is because they were minted at three different mints: Shanghai (which are on the top row) and Shenzyang (bottom row). The Shenzhen Guobao mint-coins only began in 1999.

     
    1992, 1993, 1994 and 1995
    In 1995 for the first time there were 3 varieties. The bottom one, the "micro date" is one of the rarest varieties of panda. Both came from the Shenyang mint

     
    1996, 1997, 1998 and 1999
    I have still to source a 1998 Large date and the extremely rare 1999 large date with the serif on the 1 (which I believe was the first silver panda minted at Shenzhen Guobao).

     
    2000, 2001, and 2002
    The gap here is the Shanghai-minted 2000, which in contrast with the frosted-ring Shenzhen Guobao panda had a mirror-finish ring on the date side. This is one of the hardest-to-find and most expensive panda (aside from the silly-money 2003 with small D)

     
    2003, 2004 and 2005.
    2003 had two versions - one with a mirror/satin texture of bamboo in the background to the right of the panda and one with a more frosted finish.
    Although the others from 2002 to 2005 all had the same design, they have come from different mints as seen from the edge of the seals. I am endeavouring to collect one of each so still looking for sealed 2003s. 

     
    2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009.
    These were not issued in seals any more.

     
    2010, 2011, 2012, 2013. 

     
    2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017.
    For the only time in 2015, the panda did not show the weight, "Ag" and purity on the coin, but was still 1oz of 999 silver. This was a highly controversial change, so in 2016 they put these details back, and replaced it with another controversial move - they went metric and decreased the weight to only 30g of silver!

     
    2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021.
    This is as far as I've got so far, but I should be able to add 2022 in the next couple of weeks when the very first ones arrive from China in a very fun new design!

     
    Many members of the forum have helped me greatly in assembling this collection. A special mention should go to @DavePanda who has given me loads of invaluable advice, lent me his Peter Anthony book, and sold me many of the coins in the collection.
  10. Like
    arphethean got a reaction from silvergaga in My silver Panda collection!   
    About a year ago I first started taking an interest in 1oz China silver pandas after someone on the forum listed a short date run of recent years which I snapped up.
    Once I'd decided to start collecting a date run I quickly amassed a few more years, and it was about that point when I discovered that some years are particularly hard to find, and also when I discovered that there are different varieties of each coin. But it was too late for that - I was hooked! I posted this thread: 
     
    It became something of an obsession, but armed with Peter Anthony's panda book I persevered.
    A year on, my collection has reached this stage, and I have only three coins still to find. Some coins have been peculiarly elusive, like the 2007 of which I eventually picked up a bundle of 15 which had been imported from China!
    1989, 1990 and 1991
    The series of 1oz bullion pandas strictly began in 1989. It is convenient for the panda collector to remind themselves of that, because although there are silver pandas going back to 1982, they are either not 1oz or not bullion, so they don't count!
    1989 had only 1 variety, but I have collected two so as to show both sides. After this there are two or three varieties for each year up to 2003. This is because they were minted at three different mints: Shanghai (which are on the top row) and Shenzyang (bottom row). The Shenzhen Guobao mint-coins only began in 1999.

     
    1992, 1993, 1994 and 1995
    In 1995 for the first time there were 3 varieties. The bottom one, the "micro date" is one of the rarest varieties of panda. Both came from the Shenyang mint

     
    1996, 1997, 1998 and 1999
    I have still to source a 1998 Large date and the extremely rare 1999 large date with the serif on the 1 (which I believe was the first silver panda minted at Shenzhen Guobao).

     
    2000, 2001, and 2002
    The gap here is the Shanghai-minted 2000, which in contrast with the frosted-ring Shenzhen Guobao panda had a mirror-finish ring on the date side. This is one of the hardest-to-find and most expensive panda (aside from the silly-money 2003 with small D)

     
    2003, 2004 and 2005.
    2003 had two versions - one with a mirror/satin texture of bamboo in the background to the right of the panda and one with a more frosted finish.
    Although the others from 2002 to 2005 all had the same design, they have come from different mints as seen from the edge of the seals. I am endeavouring to collect one of each so still looking for sealed 2003s. 

     
    2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009.
    These were not issued in seals any more.

     
    2010, 2011, 2012, 2013. 

     
    2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017.
    For the only time in 2015, the panda did not show the weight, "Ag" and purity on the coin, but was still 1oz of 999 silver. This was a highly controversial change, so in 2016 they put these details back, and replaced it with another controversial move - they went metric and decreased the weight to only 30g of silver!

     
    2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021.
    This is as far as I've got so far, but I should be able to add 2022 in the next couple of weeks when the very first ones arrive from China in a very fun new design!

     
    Many members of the forum have helped me greatly in assembling this collection. A special mention should go to @DavePanda who has given me loads of invaluable advice, lent me his Peter Anthony book, and sold me many of the coins in the collection.
  11. Like
    arphethean got a reaction from Gradient in My silver Panda collection!   
    About a year ago I first started taking an interest in 1oz China silver pandas after someone on the forum listed a short date run of recent years which I snapped up.
    Once I'd decided to start collecting a date run I quickly amassed a few more years, and it was about that point when I discovered that some years are particularly hard to find, and also when I discovered that there are different varieties of each coin. But it was too late for that - I was hooked! I posted this thread: 
     
    It became something of an obsession, but armed with Peter Anthony's panda book I persevered.
    A year on, my collection has reached this stage, and I have only three coins still to find. Some coins have been peculiarly elusive, like the 2007 of which I eventually picked up a bundle of 15 which had been imported from China!
    1989, 1990 and 1991
    The series of 1oz bullion pandas strictly began in 1989. It is convenient for the panda collector to remind themselves of that, because although there are silver pandas going back to 1982, they are either not 1oz or not bullion, so they don't count!
    1989 had only 1 variety, but I have collected two so as to show both sides. After this there are two or three varieties for each year up to 2003. This is because they were minted at three different mints: Shanghai (which are on the top row) and Shenzyang (bottom row). The Shenzhen Guobao mint-coins only began in 1999.

     
    1992, 1993, 1994 and 1995
    In 1995 for the first time there were 3 varieties. The bottom one, the "micro date" is one of the rarest varieties of panda. Both came from the Shenyang mint

     
    1996, 1997, 1998 and 1999
    I have still to source a 1998 Large date and the extremely rare 1999 large date with the serif on the 1 (which I believe was the first silver panda minted at Shenzhen Guobao).

     
    2000, 2001, and 2002
    The gap here is the Shanghai-minted 2000, which in contrast with the frosted-ring Shenzhen Guobao panda had a mirror-finish ring on the date side. This is one of the hardest-to-find and most expensive panda (aside from the silly-money 2003 with small D)

     
    2003, 2004 and 2005.
    2003 had two versions - one with a mirror/satin texture of bamboo in the background to the right of the panda and one with a more frosted finish.
    Although the others from 2002 to 2005 all had the same design, they have come from different mints as seen from the edge of the seals. I am endeavouring to collect one of each so still looking for sealed 2003s. 

     
    2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009.
    These were not issued in seals any more.

     
    2010, 2011, 2012, 2013. 

     
    2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017.
    For the only time in 2015, the panda did not show the weight, "Ag" and purity on the coin, but was still 1oz of 999 silver. This was a highly controversial change, so in 2016 they put these details back, and replaced it with another controversial move - they went metric and decreased the weight to only 30g of silver!

     
    2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021.
    This is as far as I've got so far, but I should be able to add 2022 in the next couple of weeks when the very first ones arrive from China in a very fun new design!

     
    Many members of the forum have helped me greatly in assembling this collection. A special mention should go to @DavePanda who has given me loads of invaluable advice, lent me his Peter Anthony book, and sold me many of the coins in the collection.
  12. Like
    arphethean got a reaction from JJH in My silver Panda collection!   
    About a year ago I first started taking an interest in 1oz China silver pandas after someone on the forum listed a short date run of recent years which I snapped up.
    Once I'd decided to start collecting a date run I quickly amassed a few more years, and it was about that point when I discovered that some years are particularly hard to find, and also when I discovered that there are different varieties of each coin. But it was too late for that - I was hooked! I posted this thread: 
     
    It became something of an obsession, but armed with Peter Anthony's panda book I persevered.
    A year on, my collection has reached this stage, and I have only three coins still to find. Some coins have been peculiarly elusive, like the 2007 of which I eventually picked up a bundle of 15 which had been imported from China!
    1989, 1990 and 1991
    The series of 1oz bullion pandas strictly began in 1989. It is convenient for the panda collector to remind themselves of that, because although there are silver pandas going back to 1982, they are either not 1oz or not bullion, so they don't count!
    1989 had only 1 variety, but I have collected two so as to show both sides. After this there are two or three varieties for each year up to 2003. This is because they were minted at three different mints: Shanghai (which are on the top row) and Shenzyang (bottom row). The Shenzhen Guobao mint-coins only began in 1999.

     
    1992, 1993, 1994 and 1995
    In 1995 for the first time there were 3 varieties. The bottom one, the "micro date" is one of the rarest varieties of panda. Both came from the Shenyang mint

     
    1996, 1997, 1998 and 1999
    I have still to source a 1998 Large date and the extremely rare 1999 large date with the serif on the 1 (which I believe was the first silver panda minted at Shenzhen Guobao).

     
    2000, 2001, and 2002
    The gap here is the Shanghai-minted 2000, which in contrast with the frosted-ring Shenzhen Guobao panda had a mirror-finish ring on the date side. This is one of the hardest-to-find and most expensive panda (aside from the silly-money 2003 with small D)

     
    2003, 2004 and 2005.
    2003 had two versions - one with a mirror/satin texture of bamboo in the background to the right of the panda and one with a more frosted finish.
    Although the others from 2002 to 2005 all had the same design, they have come from different mints as seen from the edge of the seals. I am endeavouring to collect one of each so still looking for sealed 2003s. 

     
    2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009.
    These were not issued in seals any more.

     
    2010, 2011, 2012, 2013. 

     
    2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017.
    For the only time in 2015, the panda did not show the weight, "Ag" and purity on the coin, but was still 1oz of 999 silver. This was a highly controversial change, so in 2016 they put these details back, and replaced it with another controversial move - they went metric and decreased the weight to only 30g of silver!

     
    2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021.
    This is as far as I've got so far, but I should be able to add 2022 in the next couple of weeks when the very first ones arrive from China in a very fun new design!

     
    Many members of the forum have helped me greatly in assembling this collection. A special mention should go to @DavePanda who has given me loads of invaluable advice, lent me his Peter Anthony book, and sold me many of the coins in the collection.
  13. Like
    arphethean got a reaction from silvergaga in My silver Panda collection!   
    Thank you! I have only been collecting since August 2020, so had to hunt them all down. It was a combination of sellers on TSF and Facebook groups and eBay. I have paid up to £160 for some of these (the 2000) but most of them pre 2005 are around £60-£80
    Yes, every panda comes from the mint with a capsule but only the older ones pre-2006 have seals (though it is becoming increasingly rare to find them in their original seal). The seals were originally in sheets of 10 which were then cut up into singles. Now they come in these trays of 15 for bulk sales - keeps the capsules from scratching each other. The trays are very useful for storing post-2006 or older unsealed pandas.
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    arphethean got a reaction from mr1030 in My silver Panda collection!   
    About a year ago I first started taking an interest in 1oz China silver pandas after someone on the forum listed a short date run of recent years which I snapped up.
    Once I'd decided to start collecting a date run I quickly amassed a few more years, and it was about that point when I discovered that some years are particularly hard to find, and also when I discovered that there are different varieties of each coin. But it was too late for that - I was hooked! I posted this thread: 
     
    It became something of an obsession, but armed with Peter Anthony's panda book I persevered.
    A year on, my collection has reached this stage, and I have only three coins still to find. Some coins have been peculiarly elusive, like the 2007 of which I eventually picked up a bundle of 15 which had been imported from China!
    1989, 1990 and 1991
    The series of 1oz bullion pandas strictly began in 1989. It is convenient for the panda collector to remind themselves of that, because although there are silver pandas going back to 1982, they are either not 1oz or not bullion, so they don't count!
    1989 had only 1 variety, but I have collected two so as to show both sides. After this there are two or three varieties for each year up to 2003. This is because they were minted at three different mints: Shanghai (which are on the top row) and Shenzyang (bottom row). The Shenzhen Guobao mint-coins only began in 1999.

     
    1992, 1993, 1994 and 1995
    In 1995 for the first time there were 3 varieties. The bottom one, the "micro date" is one of the rarest varieties of panda. Both came from the Shenyang mint

     
    1996, 1997, 1998 and 1999
    I have still to source a 1998 Large date and the extremely rare 1999 large date with the serif on the 1 (which I believe was the first silver panda minted at Shenzhen Guobao).

     
    2000, 2001, and 2002
    The gap here is the Shanghai-minted 2000, which in contrast with the frosted-ring Shenzhen Guobao panda had a mirror-finish ring on the date side. This is one of the hardest-to-find and most expensive panda (aside from the silly-money 2003 with small D)

     
    2003, 2004 and 2005.
    2003 had two versions - one with a mirror/satin texture of bamboo in the background to the right of the panda and one with a more frosted finish.
    Although the others from 2002 to 2005 all had the same design, they have come from different mints as seen from the edge of the seals. I am endeavouring to collect one of each so still looking for sealed 2003s. 

     
    2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009.
    These were not issued in seals any more.

     
    2010, 2011, 2012, 2013. 

     
    2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017.
    For the only time in 2015, the panda did not show the weight, "Ag" and purity on the coin, but was still 1oz of 999 silver. This was a highly controversial change, so in 2016 they put these details back, and replaced it with another controversial move - they went metric and decreased the weight to only 30g of silver!

     
    2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021.
    This is as far as I've got so far, but I should be able to add 2022 in the next couple of weeks when the very first ones arrive from China in a very fun new design!

     
    Many members of the forum have helped me greatly in assembling this collection. A special mention should go to @DavePanda who has given me loads of invaluable advice, lent me his Peter Anthony book, and sold me many of the coins in the collection.
  15. Like
    arphethean got a reaction from Antwerpstacker in My silver Panda collection!   
    About a year ago I first started taking an interest in 1oz China silver pandas after someone on the forum listed a short date run of recent years which I snapped up.
    Once I'd decided to start collecting a date run I quickly amassed a few more years, and it was about that point when I discovered that some years are particularly hard to find, and also when I discovered that there are different varieties of each coin. But it was too late for that - I was hooked! I posted this thread: 
     
    It became something of an obsession, but armed with Peter Anthony's panda book I persevered.
    A year on, my collection has reached this stage, and I have only three coins still to find. Some coins have been peculiarly elusive, like the 2007 of which I eventually picked up a bundle of 15 which had been imported from China!
    1989, 1990 and 1991
    The series of 1oz bullion pandas strictly began in 1989. It is convenient for the panda collector to remind themselves of that, because although there are silver pandas going back to 1982, they are either not 1oz or not bullion, so they don't count!
    1989 had only 1 variety, but I have collected two so as to show both sides. After this there are two or three varieties for each year up to 2003. This is because they were minted at three different mints: Shanghai (which are on the top row) and Shenzyang (bottom row). The Shenzhen Guobao mint-coins only began in 1999.

     
    1992, 1993, 1994 and 1995
    In 1995 for the first time there were 3 varieties. The bottom one, the "micro date" is one of the rarest varieties of panda. Both came from the Shenyang mint

     
    1996, 1997, 1998 and 1999
    I have still to source a 1998 Large date and the extremely rare 1999 large date with the serif on the 1 (which I believe was the first silver panda minted at Shenzhen Guobao).

     
    2000, 2001, and 2002
    The gap here is the Shanghai-minted 2000, which in contrast with the frosted-ring Shenzhen Guobao panda had a mirror-finish ring on the date side. This is one of the hardest-to-find and most expensive panda (aside from the silly-money 2003 with small D)

     
    2003, 2004 and 2005.
    2003 had two versions - one with a mirror/satin texture of bamboo in the background to the right of the panda and one with a more frosted finish.
    Although the others from 2002 to 2005 all had the same design, they have come from different mints as seen from the edge of the seals. I am endeavouring to collect one of each so still looking for sealed 2003s. 

     
    2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009.
    These were not issued in seals any more.

     
    2010, 2011, 2012, 2013. 

     
    2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017.
    For the only time in 2015, the panda did not show the weight, "Ag" and purity on the coin, but was still 1oz of 999 silver. This was a highly controversial change, so in 2016 they put these details back, and replaced it with another controversial move - they went metric and decreased the weight to only 30g of silver!

     
    2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021.
    This is as far as I've got so far, but I should be able to add 2022 in the next couple of weeks when the very first ones arrive from China in a very fun new design!

     
    Many members of the forum have helped me greatly in assembling this collection. A special mention should go to @DavePanda who has given me loads of invaluable advice, lent me his Peter Anthony book, and sold me many of the coins in the collection.
  16. Like
    arphethean got a reaction from Alex944 in My silver Panda collection!   
    About a year ago I first started taking an interest in 1oz China silver pandas after someone on the forum listed a short date run of recent years which I snapped up.
    Once I'd decided to start collecting a date run I quickly amassed a few more years, and it was about that point when I discovered that some years are particularly hard to find, and also when I discovered that there are different varieties of each coin. But it was too late for that - I was hooked! I posted this thread: 
     
    It became something of an obsession, but armed with Peter Anthony's panda book I persevered.
    A year on, my collection has reached this stage, and I have only three coins still to find. Some coins have been peculiarly elusive, like the 2007 of which I eventually picked up a bundle of 15 which had been imported from China!
    1989, 1990 and 1991
    The series of 1oz bullion pandas strictly began in 1989. It is convenient for the panda collector to remind themselves of that, because although there are silver pandas going back to 1982, they are either not 1oz or not bullion, so they don't count!
    1989 had only 1 variety, but I have collected two so as to show both sides. After this there are two or three varieties for each year up to 2003. This is because they were minted at three different mints: Shanghai (which are on the top row) and Shenzyang (bottom row). The Shenzhen Guobao mint-coins only began in 1999.

     
    1992, 1993, 1994 and 1995
    In 1995 for the first time there were 3 varieties. The bottom one, the "micro date" is one of the rarest varieties of panda. Both came from the Shenyang mint

     
    1996, 1997, 1998 and 1999
    I have still to source a 1998 Large date and the extremely rare 1999 large date with the serif on the 1 (which I believe was the first silver panda minted at Shenzhen Guobao).

     
    2000, 2001, and 2002
    The gap here is the Shanghai-minted 2000, which in contrast with the frosted-ring Shenzhen Guobao panda had a mirror-finish ring on the date side. This is one of the hardest-to-find and most expensive panda (aside from the silly-money 2003 with small D)

     
    2003, 2004 and 2005.
    2003 had two versions - one with a mirror/satin texture of bamboo in the background to the right of the panda and one with a more frosted finish.
    Although the others from 2002 to 2005 all had the same design, they have come from different mints as seen from the edge of the seals. I am endeavouring to collect one of each so still looking for sealed 2003s. 

     
    2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009.
    These were not issued in seals any more.

     
    2010, 2011, 2012, 2013. 

     
    2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017.
    For the only time in 2015, the panda did not show the weight, "Ag" and purity on the coin, but was still 1oz of 999 silver. This was a highly controversial change, so in 2016 they put these details back, and replaced it with another controversial move - they went metric and decreased the weight to only 30g of silver!

     
    2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021.
    This is as far as I've got so far, but I should be able to add 2022 in the next couple of weeks when the very first ones arrive from China in a very fun new design!

     
    Many members of the forum have helped me greatly in assembling this collection. A special mention should go to @DavePanda who has given me loads of invaluable advice, lent me his Peter Anthony book, and sold me many of the coins in the collection.
  17. Like
    arphethean got a reaction from GoldStandardPartyUK in My silver Panda collection!   
    About a year ago I first started taking an interest in 1oz China silver pandas after someone on the forum listed a short date run of recent years which I snapped up.
    Once I'd decided to start collecting a date run I quickly amassed a few more years, and it was about that point when I discovered that some years are particularly hard to find, and also when I discovered that there are different varieties of each coin. But it was too late for that - I was hooked! I posted this thread: 
     
    It became something of an obsession, but armed with Peter Anthony's panda book I persevered.
    A year on, my collection has reached this stage, and I have only three coins still to find. Some coins have been peculiarly elusive, like the 2007 of which I eventually picked up a bundle of 15 which had been imported from China!
    1989, 1990 and 1991
    The series of 1oz bullion pandas strictly began in 1989. It is convenient for the panda collector to remind themselves of that, because although there are silver pandas going back to 1982, they are either not 1oz or not bullion, so they don't count!
    1989 had only 1 variety, but I have collected two so as to show both sides. After this there are two or three varieties for each year up to 2003. This is because they were minted at three different mints: Shanghai (which are on the top row) and Shenzyang (bottom row). The Shenzhen Guobao mint-coins only began in 1999.

     
    1992, 1993, 1994 and 1995
    In 1995 for the first time there were 3 varieties. The bottom one, the "micro date" is one of the rarest varieties of panda. Both came from the Shenyang mint

     
    1996, 1997, 1998 and 1999
    I have still to source a 1998 Large date and the extremely rare 1999 large date with the serif on the 1 (which I believe was the first silver panda minted at Shenzhen Guobao).

     
    2000, 2001, and 2002
    The gap here is the Shanghai-minted 2000, which in contrast with the frosted-ring Shenzhen Guobao panda had a mirror-finish ring on the date side. This is one of the hardest-to-find and most expensive panda (aside from the silly-money 2003 with small D)

     
    2003, 2004 and 2005.
    2003 had two versions - one with a mirror/satin texture of bamboo in the background to the right of the panda and one with a more frosted finish.
    Although the others from 2002 to 2005 all had the same design, they have come from different mints as seen from the edge of the seals. I am endeavouring to collect one of each so still looking for sealed 2003s. 

     
    2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009.
    These were not issued in seals any more.

     
    2010, 2011, 2012, 2013. 

     
    2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017.
    For the only time in 2015, the panda did not show the weight, "Ag" and purity on the coin, but was still 1oz of 999 silver. This was a highly controversial change, so in 2016 they put these details back, and replaced it with another controversial move - they went metric and decreased the weight to only 30g of silver!

     
    2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021.
    This is as far as I've got so far, but I should be able to add 2022 in the next couple of weeks when the very first ones arrive from China in a very fun new design!

     
    Many members of the forum have helped me greatly in assembling this collection. A special mention should go to @DavePanda who has given me loads of invaluable advice, lent me his Peter Anthony book, and sold me many of the coins in the collection.
  18. Like
    arphethean got a reaction from Agaumac in My silver Panda collection!   
    About a year ago I first started taking an interest in 1oz China silver pandas after someone on the forum listed a short date run of recent years which I snapped up.
    Once I'd decided to start collecting a date run I quickly amassed a few more years, and it was about that point when I discovered that some years are particularly hard to find, and also when I discovered that there are different varieties of each coin. But it was too late for that - I was hooked! I posted this thread: 
     
    It became something of an obsession, but armed with Peter Anthony's panda book I persevered.
    A year on, my collection has reached this stage, and I have only three coins still to find. Some coins have been peculiarly elusive, like the 2007 of which I eventually picked up a bundle of 15 which had been imported from China!
    1989, 1990 and 1991
    The series of 1oz bullion pandas strictly began in 1989. It is convenient for the panda collector to remind themselves of that, because although there are silver pandas going back to 1982, they are either not 1oz or not bullion, so they don't count!
    1989 had only 1 variety, but I have collected two so as to show both sides. After this there are two or three varieties for each year up to 2003. This is because they were minted at three different mints: Shanghai (which are on the top row) and Shenzyang (bottom row). The Shenzhen Guobao mint-coins only began in 1999.

     
    1992, 1993, 1994 and 1995
    In 1995 for the first time there were 3 varieties. The bottom one, the "micro date" is one of the rarest varieties of panda. Both came from the Shenyang mint

     
    1996, 1997, 1998 and 1999
    I have still to source a 1998 Large date and the extremely rare 1999 large date with the serif on the 1 (which I believe was the first silver panda minted at Shenzhen Guobao).

     
    2000, 2001, and 2002
    The gap here is the Shanghai-minted 2000, which in contrast with the frosted-ring Shenzhen Guobao panda had a mirror-finish ring on the date side. This is one of the hardest-to-find and most expensive panda (aside from the silly-money 2003 with small D)

     
    2003, 2004 and 2005.
    2003 had two versions - one with a mirror/satin texture of bamboo in the background to the right of the panda and one with a more frosted finish.
    Although the others from 2002 to 2005 all had the same design, they have come from different mints as seen from the edge of the seals. I am endeavouring to collect one of each so still looking for sealed 2003s. 

     
    2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009.
    These were not issued in seals any more.

     
    2010, 2011, 2012, 2013. 

     
    2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017.
    For the only time in 2015, the panda did not show the weight, "Ag" and purity on the coin, but was still 1oz of 999 silver. This was a highly controversial change, so in 2016 they put these details back, and replaced it with another controversial move - they went metric and decreased the weight to only 30g of silver!

     
    2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021.
    This is as far as I've got so far, but I should be able to add 2022 in the next couple of weeks when the very first ones arrive from China in a very fun new design!

     
    Many members of the forum have helped me greatly in assembling this collection. A special mention should go to @DavePanda who has given me loads of invaluable advice, lent me his Peter Anthony book, and sold me many of the coins in the collection.
  19. Like
    arphethean got a reaction from Solly in My silver Panda collection!   
    About a year ago I first started taking an interest in 1oz China silver pandas after someone on the forum listed a short date run of recent years which I snapped up.
    Once I'd decided to start collecting a date run I quickly amassed a few more years, and it was about that point when I discovered that some years are particularly hard to find, and also when I discovered that there are different varieties of each coin. But it was too late for that - I was hooked! I posted this thread: 
     
    It became something of an obsession, but armed with Peter Anthony's panda book I persevered.
    A year on, my collection has reached this stage, and I have only three coins still to find. Some coins have been peculiarly elusive, like the 2007 of which I eventually picked up a bundle of 15 which had been imported from China!
    1989, 1990 and 1991
    The series of 1oz bullion pandas strictly began in 1989. It is convenient for the panda collector to remind themselves of that, because although there are silver pandas going back to 1982, they are either not 1oz or not bullion, so they don't count!
    1989 had only 1 variety, but I have collected two so as to show both sides. After this there are two or three varieties for each year up to 2003. This is because they were minted at three different mints: Shanghai (which are on the top row) and Shenzyang (bottom row). The Shenzhen Guobao mint-coins only began in 1999.

     
    1992, 1993, 1994 and 1995
    In 1995 for the first time there were 3 varieties. The bottom one, the "micro date" is one of the rarest varieties of panda. Both came from the Shenyang mint

     
    1996, 1997, 1998 and 1999
    I have still to source a 1998 Large date and the extremely rare 1999 large date with the serif on the 1 (which I believe was the first silver panda minted at Shenzhen Guobao).

     
    2000, 2001, and 2002
    The gap here is the Shanghai-minted 2000, which in contrast with the frosted-ring Shenzhen Guobao panda had a mirror-finish ring on the date side. This is one of the hardest-to-find and most expensive panda (aside from the silly-money 2003 with small D)

     
    2003, 2004 and 2005.
    2003 had two versions - one with a mirror/satin texture of bamboo in the background to the right of the panda and one with a more frosted finish.
    Although the others from 2002 to 2005 all had the same design, they have come from different mints as seen from the edge of the seals. I am endeavouring to collect one of each so still looking for sealed 2003s. 

     
    2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009.
    These were not issued in seals any more.

     
    2010, 2011, 2012, 2013. 

     
    2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017.
    For the only time in 2015, the panda did not show the weight, "Ag" and purity on the coin, but was still 1oz of 999 silver. This was a highly controversial change, so in 2016 they put these details back, and replaced it with another controversial move - they went metric and decreased the weight to only 30g of silver!

     
    2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021.
    This is as far as I've got so far, but I should be able to add 2022 in the next couple of weeks when the very first ones arrive from China in a very fun new design!

     
    Many members of the forum have helped me greatly in assembling this collection. A special mention should go to @DavePanda who has given me loads of invaluable advice, lent me his Peter Anthony book, and sold me many of the coins in the collection.
  20. Like
    arphethean got a reaction from Alex944 in 1937-1946 Half Crowns   
    I'm sure many members here have a pile of predecimal and would be happy to look through and find coins for your date run. I would offer to look right now except my collection is not to hand. But I certainly have half crowns in good condition from all those years and could work out a good deal for you
  21. Like
    arphethean reacted to BackyardBullion in Excited   
    Yep, every single time. It's why I still love stacking!
  22. Like
    arphethean reacted to HerefordBullyun in Excited   
    Doesnt wear off for me. Over 500oz and still love recieving every single oz. 
  23. Like
    arphethean reacted to GoldStandardPartyUK in What brings you to this hobby   
    I work for a bank and seeing how they manage risk gave me little confidence they would handle any crisis correctly, the internal talk of cyclical investment and managing counterparty risk led me to believe central banks would implement policies in the opposite direction to what would be needed, they're worse than useless. 
    My views were confirmed by the Sept 2019 repo market crash, since then their over reaction to covid, reckless borrowing, their lack of reaction to actual crises such rise of maoism, socialism and culture war. All this plus historically low GSR basically this is a once in a hundred generations opportunity for silver. 
    Is not a hobby. Did Noah have a hobby building his ark? 
  24. Like
    arphethean reacted to Bigmarc in Junk silver   
    When it's sold on here it's snapped up pretty much straight away, minimal premium, great for playing the spot game. It's durability is great, no need to worry about gloves as it's passed many hands, no need to worry about milk spots and there his years of history that one day will die out, there is no need to worry about fakes, there are a few and almost feels like a win when you find one. Bullion dealers don't really sell them so to accumulate you have to rely on a honest peer to peer trade. 
  25. Like
    arphethean reacted to Pete in Small defect in 2021 1oz silver Britannias   
    Pot luck and good luck.

    When the first 999 silver Britannias were minted I bought directly over 100.
    They were sold in plastic sheets so each coin was in its own protective bubble.
    When you prised open the flimsy sheet all the neighbouring cells popped open so a c**p design.
    Pretty much every coin was badly scuffed on primarily the Queens face at its highest points.
    In addition a high percentage had small pits and reeded dings caused by edge impact on the face.
    The scuff marks were attributed to damaged conveyor belts, or something, and I guess the dings etc are caused when they all drop into a bin.
    There was no quality control other than weight - shocking.
    Even repeat sellers on eBay were warning of bad defects so as to not get coins returned.
    More recently I bought a couple of tubes of the QB Greyhound and I would have to estimate that 60% or more have some scuffs on the highest points.
    These marks are not caused by rubbing in the tubes.
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