Gazette Proclamation - St. George and the Dragon

[westminstrel]

This is an interesting one… it’s not the Sovereign and it is buried inside the proclamation of another coin.

It’s available in:

- Gold - 1 Oz and 1/4 Oz

- Silver - 1 kg, 10 Oz, 1 Oz

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/4479558

For the obverse impression Our effigy with the inscription “· CHARLES III · D · G · REX · F · D · 100 POUNDS ” and for the reverse a depiction of St George, sitting on horseback, attacking a dragon with a spear, and the date of the year, and, in micro-text, “· 1OZ · FINE GOLD · 999.9 ·” and the date of the year.

 

[Olivard]

1 hour ago, westminstrel said:

This is an interesting one… it’s not the Sovereign and it is buried inside the proclamation of another coin.

It’s available in:

- Gold - 1 Oz and 1/4 Oz

- Silver - 1 kg, 10 Oz, 1 Oz

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/4479558

For the obverse impression Our effigy with the inscription “· CHARLES III · D · G · REX · F · D · 100 POUNDS ” and for the reverse a depiction of St George, sitting on horseback, attacking a dragon with a spear, and the date of the year, and, in micro-text, “· 1OZ · FINE GOLD · 999.9 ·” and the date of the year.

 

Be interesting to see what design they use.

St George using a spear rather than a sword.

[SeverinDigsSovereigns]

23 minutes ago, Olivard said:

Be interesting to see what design they use.

St George using a spear rather than a sword.

The original George III sovereigns used a broken spear. The Wyon design (which EIC is selling) also uses a spear. Also comes to mind is the Valiant silver coins which could simply made in gold and that makes sense, too.

[Stuntman]

Thanks @westminstrel, these sound very exciting.

There's obviously some kind of UK/US coin series thing going on at the Royal Mint.  First we see the Lion & Eagle coin in proof, then a Britannia & Liberty coin in bullion.

I hope the the George & Dragon coin is a new design, but wouldn't mind if it was the similar to the Valiant design, that's pretty decent IMO.

[Stuntman]

4 minutes ago, SeverinDigsSovereigns said:

The original George III sovereigns used a broken spear. The Wyon design (which EIC is selling) also uses a spear. Also comes to mind is the Valiant silver coins which could simply made in gold and that makes sense, too.

That Wyon design would be ace on this new coin.  I think the Valiant coin has a lance, rather than a spear - although definitely not a sword!

[SeverinDigsSovereigns]

1 minute ago, Stuntman said:

That Wyon design would be ace on this new coin.  I think the Valiant coin has a lance, rather than a spear - although definitely not a sword!

If they did the Wyon design I'll be mad not to buy it.

Edited November 23, 2023 by SeverinDigsSovereigns

[Stuntman]

^^^ The proclamation says it will also be made as a 1 kilo silver bullion coin, although seemingly not a 10 oz.  The design would look pretty epic on a big silver coin like that.

[SeverinDigsSovereigns]

6 minutes ago, Stuntman said:

^^^ The proclamation says it will also be made as a 1 kilo silver bullion coin, although seemingly not a 10 oz.  The design would look pretty epic on a big silver coin like that.

Only if it didn't milk!

[paulmerton]

I am looking forward to this one  

[Zhorro]

51 minutes ago, paulmerton said:

I am looking forward to this one  

If only we knew when to look forward to it !

[paulmerton]

7 minutes ago, Zhorro said:

If only we knew when to look forward to it !

If only you knew what it looked like! 🤣

[westminstrel]

24 minutes ago, Zhorro said:

If only we knew when to look forward to it !

Pokes 👉🏽 @paulmerton 😇

[AgCoyote]

All those sizes will be available in bullion?

[Stuntman]

57 minutes ago, AgCoyote said:

All those sizes will be available in bullion?

Generally speaking, if the description of the coin contains the name of the metal, its weight and its fineness - it will be a bullion coin. The proofs don't generally contain this information on the face of the coin.

[Petra]

4 hours ago, westminstrel said:

This is an interesting one… it’s not the Sovereign and it is buried inside the proclamation of another coin.

It’s available in:

- Gold - 1 Oz and 1/4 Oz

- Silver - 1 kg, 10 Oz, 1 Oz

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/4479558

For the obverse impression Our effigy with the inscription “· CHARLES III · D · G · REX · F · D · 100 POUNDS ” and for the reverse a depiction of St George, sitting on horseback, attacking a dragon with a spear, and the date of the year, and, in micro-text, “· 1OZ · FINE GOLD · 999.9 ·” and the date of the year.

 

New Valiant?🤔😮

[AgCoyote]

55 minutes ago, Petra said:

New Valiant?🤔😮

Seems to be what it is. I loved the Valiant and think it was a mistake to get rid of it and continue the Royal Arms instead. I can't wait to see the design.

[paulmerton]

1 hour ago, Stuntman said:

Generally speaking, if the description of the coin contains the name of the metal, its weight and its fineness - it will be a bullion coin. The proofs don't generally contain this information on the face of the coin.

Always a few exceptions to keep us guessing. This is a proof:

[westminstrel]

6 hours ago, Petra said:

New Valiant?🤔😮

Most likely, as that’s the only precedent, unless they whip out something new. 

[Paul]

Would be rather nice 

[Petra]

2 minutes ago, Paul said:

Would be rather nice 

mmmm….. not too sure about this🤔need to hold the coin and see it🤔

[westminstrel]

3 hours ago, Paul said:

Would be rather nice 

I think if the RM ever does the William Wyon design, it will be as part of the Great Engravers series; not as a bullion coin.

My bet is on the return of the Valiant, perhaps with an updated design.

[Agaupl]

Wyon design… the next of the great engravers?

Just now, westminstrel said:

I think if the RM ever does the William Wyon design, it will be as part of the Great Engravers series; not as a bullion coin.

My bet is on the return of the Valiant, perhaps with an updated design.

Snap

[Agaupl]

3 hours ago, Petra said:

mmmm….. not too sure about this🤔need to hold the coin and see it🤔

Oh it’s a bloody amazing design. 

[westminstrel]

1 minute ago, Agaupl said:

Wyon design… the next of the great engravers?

Snap

Yes, East India Company did this for 2023 while RM diverged and did the Petition Crown.

Definitely a terrific design and if the RM does it, I hope they reduce mintages drastically and improve the collectibility of the Great Engravers series again.

Una and the Lion was amazing!!! 😍

[Agaupl]

52 minutes ago, westminstrel said:

Yes, East India Company did this for 2023 while RM diverged and did the Petition Crown.

Definitely a terrific design and if the RM does it, I hope they reduce mintages drastically and improve the collectibility of the Great Engravers series again.

Una and the Lion was amazing!!! 😍

I have the EIC version… it’s such a strong design the only way to do it justice is in proof. Bullion as well, fine, but needs to be in proof also, I’m sure RM would think the same. I don’t know about rights management for designs this old  tbh. That’s the only reason I can think of why they wouldn’t…. Great find @westminstrel

Edited November 24, 2023 by Agaupl