Fake pandas on eBay (UK)

[Pandao]

Hi all 

I found two fake panda coins on eBay. Hope you are not bidding or buying those coins.   
 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115893657302?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=iciacwkARVu&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=pZLleJi1Qz2&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115897893950?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=6MOCX6HkQ_O&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=pZLleJi1Qz2&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

 

 

Edited August 26, 2023 by Pandao

[BLOOMMAN101]

fake everything mate ,even coins only worth a few quid , Amazon is just as bad if not worse

few crowns for your collection sir

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/354992862088

[modofantasma]

21 minutes ago, BLOOMMAN101 said:

fake everything mate ,even coins only worth a few quid , Amazon is just as bad if not worse

few crowns for your collection sir

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/354992862088

At least they're pretty clear about it in their title and description. 

[modofantasma]

51 minutes ago, Pandao said:

found two fake panda coins on eBay. Hope you are not bidding or buying those coins.

Thanks I don't know a lot about Pandas so did an image search to see what a genuine silver 2008 Panda looked like 

[BLOOMMAN101]

3 minutes ago, modofantasma said:

At least they're pretty clear about it in their title and description. 

Yip but will the bloke that buys them?

[Petra]

I messaged both, one has already said that he will withdraw it and ‘check it’😮🤔🫢

[modofantasma]

1 minute ago, BLOOMMAN101 said:

Yip but will the bloke that buys them?

I could only hope so. To clarify I'm not a fan of these being sold but trying to see at least some positivity that this seller isn't blatantly trying to scam people

[Pandao]

3 minutes ago, Petra said:

I messaged both, one has already said that he will withdraw it and ‘check it’😮🤔🫢

Thank you  

[Petra]

Everyone message them😮!

[BLOOMMAN101]

Just now, modofantasma said:

I could only hope so. To clarify I'm not a fan of these being sold but trying to see at least some positivity that this seller isn't blatantly trying to scam people

I know mate and some do market them as "space/gap fillers" for your collection,   but if it is worth their while to fake a coin that is only sold for a few quid what else is fake out there 

[flyingveepixie]

By now after so many discussions the moral of the story should be well understood :

"don't use ebay for anything other than cheap tat like sellotape or drawing pins" 

I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would buy or sell pms on there : although I hold my hand up to doing it myself in the past, but that was before I was fully switched onto what goes on on ebay.  It's just not worth it.

Edited August 26, 2023 by flyingveepixie

[AndrewTurner]

I don't touch ebay only for selling years ago to m uch rubbish on there and the fees are to high

[SPQR]

@Pandao, could you explain how you can spot fake pandas? What to look for on those coins? I'm just trying to compare to the images of genuine ones and I can't spot the difference.

[BLOOMMAN101]

I thought I was going to pick up a cheap 28g of .925 until I saw the item location lol It could be genuine maybe perhaps 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/374897603824

[Petra]

Well one has been sold £36🤔🙁

[BLOOMMAN101]

Caveat emptor

[HonestMoneyGoldSilver]

I see many listings with descriptions, "Might be fake, price reduced to reflect this", and the seller has knocked £2 off. Pandas are one of the most common like:

Copy of 2012 China 10 YUAN Silver Panda Coin 1oz | eBay

I've seen this seller list the same coins with either, "might be fake", or no descriptor at all as well as "Copy". This copy is 35g of 9999 silver??? How does he know that?

I'm tired of reporting eBay sellers, nothing happens. Eagles, Pandas, sovereigns, gold and silver bars are heavily faked items

[Pandao]

On 27/08/2023 at 17:42, SPQR said:

@Pandao, could you explain how you can spot fake pandas? What to look for on those coins? I'm just trying to compare to the images of genuine ones and I can't spot the difference.

Hi i don’t know how to explain it.  😄 just with my experience.  

[Pandao]

20 hours ago, HonestMoneyGoldSilver said:

I see many listings with descriptions, "Might be fake, price reduced to reflect this", and the seller has knocked £2 off. Pandas are one of the most common like:

Copy of 2012 China 10 YUAN Silver Panda Coin 1oz | eBay

I've seen this seller list the same coins with either, "might be fake", or no descriptor at all as well as "Copy". This copy is 35g of 9999 silver??? How does he know that?

I'm tired of reporting eBay sellers, nothing happens. Eagles, Pandas, sovereigns, gold and silver bars are heavily faked items

This panda is fake and why people still buying it ? It’s not worth 20 pounds   

[BLOOMMAN101]

15 minutes ago, Pandao said:

This panda is fake and why people still buying it ? It’s not worth 20 pounds   

Maybe they mark them up and sell for £40

[arphethean]

On 27/08/2023 at 10:42, SPQR said:

@Pandao, could you explain how you can spot fake pandas? What to look for on those coins? I'm just trying to compare to the images of genuine ones and I can't spot the difference.

I did a post on this a while back. These are older pandas which are faked more often as they are more valuable, but many of the same mistakes are made. Developing an eye is important - you have to have seen genuine ones enough to be able to spot the difference - it is all about attention to detail.

For example, most of the time the fur looks wrong on fakes - it is too "thick" and crude. 

There are occasional glaring errors like no denomination or completely the wrong font. Compare with good photos of genuines.

[CuriousCollector17]

On 26/08/2023 at 08:55, Pandao said:

Hi all 

I found two fake panda coins on eBay. Hope you are not bidding or buying those coins.   
 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115893657302?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=iciacwkARVu&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=pZLleJi1Qz2&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115897893950?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=6MOCX6HkQ_O&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=pZLleJi1Qz2&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

 

 

There are plenty of fakes to be found on eBay, you just have to be careful and not go with something that looks dodgy, off, or is from a seller with very low or questionable feedback/reviews. That is what you can do for the most part (just look for the telltale signs, and if something feels off, just skip it since it isn't worth the hassle).

[juansanto7]

On 28/08/2023 at 13:11, Pandao said:

This panda is fake and why people still buying it ? It’s not worth 20 pounds   

@Pandao I tried to private message you but it seems that you can not receive any PMs

[Gruff]

I know a lot of people on this forum regularly buy and sell on eBay. I have zero trust of the PMs in there. I'd prefer to buy on here or from dealers. I still test everything I buy from here and dealers as well.

[Pandao]

16 hours ago, juansanto7 said:

@Pandao I tried to private message you but it seems that you can not receive any PMs

@juansanto7  Anything I could help?