Stuntman

Late to the party here, but I agree that these would be a very tough set to resell.  I suspect anyone in the market for a 1937 set would not want to compromise on quality this much, without paying a rock bottom price.  And many of these people probably wouldn't go for this particular set anyway.

Definitely one to avoid unless you can pick it up for not much over spot.  But I'd still avoid unless you wanted to keep it.

Also check out the Bank of England Museum if you have the time.  Some amazing gold coins there, plus the chance to lift a 400 oz Good Delivery gold bar.

On 12/02/2024 at 19:30, SiCole said:

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Yours @SiCole?  Oulton Park?  I used to have one of those in Sapphire Blue.  Here it is at Rockingham in 2018.

These days I have a GTS 4.0, a GR Yaris and an E90 M3 that I've had since 2009. 

I am biased in the sense that I own the old one, but I almost certainly won't be buying the new one because I think the old one is really nice and these new ones are a little less special.  But if I didn't have the old one and wanted to collect this new series of bars, there's probably lots to like.

However, I think it's one to enjoy for the pleasure of ownership, rather than to make profits over and above any changes in the spot price.  Basically I don't think they will have much of a premium and it will be a limited resale market.

I'm probably in for this one assuming the design isn't totally hideous.  My plan for the Tudor Beast series is only to collect both Lions and both Dragons, and maybe the Completer if they make one.  

To be fair, I don't think they can mess the Lions and Dragons up too much, given how the designs for the series have been so far.

There's information about the forthcoming bars in this thread here:

The forthcoming 1 oz Una and the Lion gold bars might be right up your alley if you're looking for some diversification to your gold stack.

Although as others have said, keeping adding items to your 1 oz UK gold coin stack/collection will avoid any potential CGT angle when you come to sell.

Do you have the 1 oz gold coronation bar that the RM released last year?  If not, that might be another contender.

I'd say it's VF at best, and ex-jewellery.  So it probably won't appeal to the numismatic collector very much.  Still a lovely lump of historical gold, but hard to see much of a premium over spot for it.

I think it's probably the matte finish version of the 1902 quintuple.  I think there was a non-matte currency (bullion) version and also this matte version, which (again I think) was described as proof.

You can certainly get non-proof matte finish coins; the modern quintuple from 2019 onwards also comes as a matte finish brilliant uncirculated coin, not a proof.

The currency version of the 1902 seems to command a higher value than the matte.

A lot of the 1902 matte proof silver coins were 'wiped' at the Royal Mint and this may have been what happened to your coin here.  So it might not have been cleaned post-mint, the 'cleaning' may have occurred at the RM.

Looks a nice coin in the second set of photos.  Definitely would be one to evaluate in-hand if I was thinking of buying (which I'm not).

Good luck with the sale.  

Just ordered the 1 oz gold bullion coin.  Looking forward to it turning up sometime next week 🙂

The difference is more noticeable on the obverse in my opinion.  Less so on the reverse.

I have the BU version (in original RM packaging and the coin has remained in the capsule) and it's still my absolute favourite gold coin, aesthetically.

I wish they just made these as bullion coins instead.

I'd replied in the New Royal Mint bullion thread, but I'm also of the view that the horizontal layout isn't ideal.  Although hard to avoid, given the design.  I agree that a square bar would be a lot more interesting and distinctive as a series.

Interesting, thanks.

Given the drawings that they had previously shared, I wondered whether it would be a horizontal design, rather than a vertical design like the other RM minted bars.  

It's quite a nice design but it doesn't scream 'Buy me' - in my opinion anyway.   

I'm confused.  The RM released some Una & The Lion bullion bars in 2021 as part of the Great Engravers series.  Why is there any need for any more?  I'd far rather they released an Una & The Lion bullion coin...

I worked in a betting shop in 1990/91 and during the year I was there, I received three silver florins (1922, 1929 and 1941) and one silver shilling (1935) into the till.  With the shop manager's permission, I swapped them for normal 5p/10p coins.  I sold two of these coins for scrap silver value, and still have the other two because they were in pretty reasonable condition.  The 1929 florin is VF or thereabouts:

This is quite an interesting article about the demise of the florin:

https://www.royalmintmuseum.org.uk/journal/curators-corner/florin/

Before the demonetisation of the old larger 5p, you could theoretically find shillings going back to 1816 in your change.  So theoretically all the way up until the end of 1990 there were circulating coins with George III, George IV, William IV, VIctoria, Edward VII, George V, George VI and Elizabeth II on them.

The older larger 10p coins were demonetised in 1993 but the old Florins/Two Shillings coins only dated back to Victoria (1849) and were a different size before 1887.

I'm more of a collector than a stacker, but most of my collection is modern UK bullion.  I suppose the difference for me is that I tend to buy just a single example of a coin or bar that I like, rather than (say) buying five 2024 sovereigns (which would be better value for money, but less interesting). The few duplicates I do have will be sold and the proceeds spent on daily living.

I expect all, or very nearly all future purchases will be bullion.

I like numismatic predecimal coins but I stopped buying about 4 years ago.  Ideally I would love to buy a few more, but not until I think I have finished adding to my bullion collection.  I have my eye on a few coins that I think the RM will release in future.

Maybe I'll be in the market for a 1691-93 William & Mary half crown in about 3 years' time!

I think it's a lovely idea to give them some gold.  Definitely at least one coin needs to be dated 2024, and the 1974 coin idea is a good one if you can find something suitable.  Otherwise maybe two halves, both dated 2024?

5 hours ago, paulmerton said:

The circulating versions of the 2023 Atlantic salmon 50p seem to be the unexpectedly popular hit from this series.

Due to uncertainties about the mintage, and the fact that it is the only 2023-dated 50p which doesn't have a privy mark, they seem to be worth more than a tenner each all of a sudden.

 

Didn't realise they had been released into circulation yet.  Is that true, are they out there in the wild?

^^^ Indeed.  Although only in silver.

12 minutes ago, Bixley said:

I love both the EIC and the Valiant designs. But I can’t afford proof coins. It’s a pity they never seem to issue bullion versions which I’m sure would sell like hot cakes to more impoverished collectors.

Based on the proclamation link above, it's pretty certain that there's a bullion G&D coin range coming soon.  Like you, I'm very interested in PM bullion coins and don't have any PM proof coins.