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Finally worked out which Vic was missing - the ‘small head’ shield, which is in a group within the Type 1A obverse 1838- 47 inclusive. I had it all along, an 1843, but you have to look closely to see the difference, unlike for example the small/ large head of the SA sovereigns where the difference is more obvious…
 
 

These 3 ‘specials’ are just for you then? And so @Matt8v knows what we’re talking about……
 

This could be a very long journey you are embarking on, and could take many years!
Best read lots of books, and ask for advice when needed…
Started my journey over 25 years ago. Here’s a selection of different obverses since 1817, then of course there are overseas mints etc etc. Just start with a simple bullion Sovereign, and twiddle it between your fingers…🙂!!

I believe most TSF members have a preference for earlier sovereigns simply because of the colour. Today the R.M. uses a  ‘Red’ gold alloy - all copper, without the addition of silver which would give the sovereign a more golden appearance.
Mr Chard has always sought to persuade the RM to change the alloy to no avail. The ‘alloy’ has been discussed many times in the past on TSF. however the R.M. has always refused to engage in the reasons it changed, or even admit it has!  I suspect it was a commercial decision to separate the ‘Sovereign’ product from its core bullion business and other 999 issues
Either way you should not have a problem selling modern Sovereigns regardless of colour.
Here’s a colour comparison photo of a favourite - an early QEII ‘Gillick’ 1957-1968, with a later 2022 bullion & proof version…
One of the best IMO!
 
 

Finally worked out which Vic was missing - the ‘small head’ shield, which is in a group within the Type 1A obverse 1838- 47 inclusive. I had it all along, an 1843, but you have to look closely to see the difference, unlike for example the small/ large head of the SA sovereigns where the difference is more obvious…
 
 

CPM is a typical marketing company ‘Coin Portfolio Management’  similar to Harrington & Byrne. Lots of ‘phone calls if you sign up, overpriced, and certainly not rare!  

These Silver 1oz Krugerrands are minted yearly
My 2017 50th anniversary has a mintage of 1 million, in reverse proof-like condition. The 1997 30th gold anniv is worth a bit more!
 
 

https://www.thesilverforum.com/topic/731-dilemma/?do=findComment&comment=10886
Just trawled back nearly 10 years to find out how much a sovereign was then.
Yes, TSF has been going for that long. My last Sovereign was from  Harrington & Byrne (2022) at £319, but £400 will also seem cheap, soon enough…..!
 

https://www.thesilverforum.com/topic/731-dilemma/?do=findComment&comment=10886
Just trawled back nearly 10 years to find out how much a sovereign was then.
Yes, TSF has been going for that long. My last Sovereign was from  Harrington & Byrne (2022) at £319, but £400 will also seem cheap, soon enough…..!
 

https://www.thesilverforum.com/topic/731-dilemma/?do=findComment&comment=10886
Just trawled back nearly 10 years to find out how much a sovereign was then.
Yes, TSF has been going for that long. My last Sovereign was from  Harrington & Byrne (2022) at £319, but £400 will also seem cheap, soon enough…..!
 

https://www.thesilverforum.com/topic/731-dilemma/?do=findComment&comment=10886
Just trawled back nearly 10 years to find out how much a sovereign was then.
Yes, TSF has been going for that long. My last Sovereign was from  Harrington & Byrne (2022) at £319, but £400 will also seem cheap, soon enough…..!
 

Over the years I’ve never really liked IRBs QEII obverse, but recently have realised that given the right lighting, her details show enormous dignity, as in your 1999 Brit. 

Attached is a study of the Queen which has helped me to change my view….
 
 
 

CPM is a typical marketing company ‘Coin Portfolio Management’  similar to Harrington & Byrne. Lots of ‘phone calls if you sign up, overpriced, and certainly not rare!  

These Silver 1oz Krugerrands are minted yearly
My 2017 50th anniversary has a mintage of 1 million, in reverse proof-like condition. The 1997 30th gold anniv is worth a bit more!
 
 

Thought I’d put the remainder of my 1oz gold on here as they are all Britannias ……👍
3 Proofs + 6  Bullion. ‘ That’s All Folks !’
 

Ah, behold! this resplendent emblem of opulence that you have presented before us
Aa veritable monument to the inexorable fusion of extravagance & success.  In its form, we perceive the embodiment of fiscal aspiration, a gilded testament to the eternal pursuit of pecuniary supremacy.
Like Midas' touch unchained from restraint, it gleams with a luminosity that challenges the very sun itself to a contest of radiance.
Each facet, a gleaming syllable in the epic saga of fiscal folly, tells a tale of riches amassed and fortunes won, perhaps even lost amidst the tempests of indulgence.
Truly, it is a relic of our times—a paradoxical marriage of wealth and whimsy, a sartorial symphony that crescendos in the exclamation point of a £pound sign, a punctuation mark to signal to the world: "Behold, for I have arrived... and I brought bling!"
In its presence, one cannot help but ponder the mysteries of existence, for what enigma could be more confounding than the confluence of taste and ostentation, the intersection of elegance and excess? It is a riddle wrapped in a mystery, shrouded in a shimmering cloak of gold.
So let us raise our monocles to this object d'art, this pièce de résistance of the nouveau riche, and marvel at its brazen magnificence. 

Let’s face it, Oxford Mint sounds awfully British, but technically it’s an Anglo-Saxon production!
Anyway, I’ve already got a hundred of these - I can’t be bothered with 1 gram tiddlers!….
 

Let’s face it, Oxford Mint sounds awfully British, but technically it’s an Anglo-Saxon production!
Anyway, I’ve already got a hundred of these - I can’t be bothered with 1 gram tiddlers!….
 

CPM is a typical marketing company ‘Coin Portfolio Management’  similar to Harrington & Byrne. Lots of ‘phone calls if you sign up, overpriced, and certainly not rare!  

These Silver 1oz Krugerrands are minted yearly
My 2017 50th anniversary has a mintage of 1 million, in reverse proof-like condition. The 1997 30th gold anniv is worth a bit more!
 
 

CPM is a typical marketing company ‘Coin Portfolio Management’  similar to Harrington & Byrne. Lots of ‘phone calls if you sign up, overpriced, and certainly not rare!  

These Silver 1oz Krugerrands are minted yearly
My 2017 50th anniversary has a mintage of 1 million, in reverse proof-like condition. The 1997 30th gold anniv is worth a bit more!
 
 

Let’s face it, Oxford Mint sounds awfully British, but technically it’s an Anglo-Saxon production!
Anyway, I’ve already got a hundred of these - I can’t be bothered with 1 gram tiddlers!….
 

Let’s face it, Oxford Mint sounds awfully British, but technically it’s an Anglo-Saxon production!
Anyway, I’ve already got a hundred of these - I can’t be bothered with 1 gram tiddlers!….
 

Here’s a partial list of other ‘coin minting’ marketing companies:-
Commonwealth Mint, London Mint office, Tower Mint, Jubilee Mint, Windsor Mint, Westminster Mint, and now a new boy on the block, Oxford Mint, and last but not least The Royal Mint!   I nearly forgot ‘Hattons of London’ and Harrington & Byrne!
Can anyone suggest a connection between the names of these companies?!!
In the past I have checked out all these companies, the majority of which target the general public. It may well be that if you feel the price and quality is good, then go ahead. It’s a very competitive business and many have grouped together as ‘partners’ 
However, their advertising can often be misleading, often trying to present a legitimate connection with our Royalty and History. I am impressed by the tactic of Oxford Mint for testing the water on TSF (Market Research) 
Often our Overseas Territories such as Ascension Island, T.D.C. St Helena & Gibraltar are represented and where possible covered up to look like a RM product. Of course George & the dragon is often used as well. In this case it’s Ascension Island. Effigies on the obverse can be by ex RM engravers such as Clarke and Maklouf. Other companies are now minting 1/8th Sovereigns, but the RM could also be accused of making the 1/4 Sovereign for the same reason - something else that was never in circulation!
One company that does mint quality coins for St Helena is the EIC - East India Company. However, best not to delve too deeply into the history of the original company, because it was lucratively involved in the Slave trade along the Guinea Gold Coast in the late 17th century…..
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



 

All Gold has one £51 cheaper.
 

Definitely a ‘FAKE’ just like all the other bog standard bullion sovereigns minted by the R.M since 1998……!
 I’m off to check out my ‘Gillicks’ - bye.🙂

Definitely a ‘FAKE’ just like all the other bog standard bullion sovereigns minted by the R.M since 1998……!
 I’m off to check out my ‘Gillicks’ - bye.🙂

Definitely a ‘FAKE’ just like all the other bog standard bullion sovereigns minted by the R.M since 1998……!
 I’m off to check out my ‘Gillicks’ - bye.🙂