kimchi

I got a call from my account manager first thing this morning saying he'd been able to secure me the 2 and 5oz silver and one of the gold (is it just an 1oz, it was crazy expensive?!!) and, with my balance taken into account, I am able to take them all on rolling credit
 
Then I woke up, and have just spent all day trying to keep the debt collectors from my door for an unpaid £78 gas bill.
I really should avoid this forum sometimes...
 

I got a call from my account manager first thing this morning saying he'd been able to secure me the 2 and 5oz silver and one of the gold (is it just an 1oz, it was crazy expensive?!!) and, with my balance taken into account, I am able to take them all on rolling credit
 
Then I woke up, and have just spent all day trying to keep the debt collectors from my door for an unpaid £78 gas bill.
I really should avoid this forum sometimes...
 

Another victim
 
 
 

I got a call from my account manager first thing this morning saying he'd been able to secure me the 2 and 5oz silver and one of the gold (is it just an 1oz, it was crazy expensive?!!) and, with my balance taken into account, I am able to take them all on rolling credit
 
Then I woke up, and have just spent all day trying to keep the debt collectors from my door for an unpaid £78 gas bill.
I really should avoid this forum sometimes...
 

I got a call from my account manager first thing this morning saying he'd been able to secure me the 2 and 5oz silver and one of the gold (is it just an 1oz, it was crazy expensive?!!) and, with my balance taken into account, I am able to take them all on rolling credit
 
Then I woke up, and have just spent all day trying to keep the debt collectors from my door for an unpaid £78 gas bill.
I really should avoid this forum sometimes...
 

I got a call from my account manager first thing this morning saying he'd been able to secure me the 2 and 5oz silver and one of the gold (is it just an 1oz, it was crazy expensive?!!) and, with my balance taken into account, I am able to take them all on rolling credit
 
Then I woke up, and have just spent all day trying to keep the debt collectors from my door for an unpaid £78 gas bill.
I really should avoid this forum sometimes...
 

@richatthecroftyou lucky you got the griffin it’s sold out now 😉🤣

I can't think of another example in which a website allows an item to oversell then the company has to cancel orders.
I don't see how a company can operate so badly without something suspicious going on.
I've emailed them just for the disappointing reply I might get.
The last time I complained was about their packaging when they put my 2014 proof Britannia just into a jiffy bag and the presentation box got creases.
They said the coin packaging was just to protect the coin.
It's run by halfwits.

That's the cancellation email I received.
Translation:
''by the time we received your order for processing, the item was no longer available and is now off-sale''
''Those six attempts to pay were all your fault and nowt to do with us''
 
''We are extremely sorry for any disappointment or inconvenience caused.''
''We got offered more money for these from a secondary dealer and other big customers so we thought we'd sell yours to them instead since you're just a pleb'' 

If anyone is letting go of these at these prices (although tempting) then you’re mugging yourself. If you can’t make the rent next month fair enough, sell it; but think about this long term for just a minute.
This is just the 2nd coin in the series, so imagine what the prices for the early coins are going to be like in 3-5 years!
Knowledge of this series, coins, prices achieved at auction etc.
@Paul your Una 2oz gold is now worth minimum £35,000 raw, more like £45,000 (smaller mintage wasn’t it?). Maybe get it graded?? PF70 £90k???
Royal Mint increased this year’s mintage a little and next year they’ll do it a little more. By the time you get to year 5 you’ll have lots of people looking for an Una or a Grace because they started late etc.
Sit on these like a Dragon’s egg on a pile of gold coins 🤫 
The fewer selling the better prices you can command in 12 months.
Do as you please of course but have a good think on this 😉 

@kimchienjoy  
 

To be honest the credit facility is the best thing  interest free to ! 
Just got to pay off 15% of your balance each month 
and credit is rolling so say you got £5000 limit
Example Spend £2500 on some x1 gold coin 
Pay down 15% 
can you spend anything up to your limit
Just as long as the 15% of balance is paid each month
So your can have two or three items paying off. 
You dont have to pay one item off before you can order/add something else to your account

Gold 2oz back in stock quick guys 

I just say it once ....
for example if you are going to grade with ngc , the only thing you will need to get it right is the credit card number 
you can tell them you don’t know how to do it and they do it for you , fill the form up 
 

thats why you dont have 2x 70s 😝

I scratched my initials on mine.

There are others far more experienced in this than me. I only know the process for NGC and PCGS as I have submitted with both. Very happy to share those experiences and answers questions by PM if helpful. I would have loved someone to have done the same for me when I started out! There are absolutely other people on here with more experience that you should really be listening to! They will likely just be modest as hell......

Just for clarity, as coins are submitted with grading services like PCGS and NGC, they are listed on forms. If the person you instruct to grade for you confirms the relevant submission number, then you know this before the coin is graded and so switching is difficult. If the service provider is reluctant to share this information and the coin is not rare or from a large recent mintage, then consider this an issue.
This is going off topic now. Apologies.
We should start a new topic for grading results for the Three Graces....I can do this once the coins are received if no one else does. I can share the updates as the coins go through the process.
Back to the Three Graces!! (sorry!) 

had 2oz gold bowie cancelled
they sent a free 1/2oz silver bowie and (after few emails complaining) 1oz proof silver griffin 

Cheers. I think to be clear, most third party grading services will be very careful and if you have a rare coin, then I would not worry too much. Where it becomes an issue is with the wider releases like Elton John, Bowie, Three Graces etc. I will always self grade the coins that fall into that latter category. For the rarer coins, I would absolutely use the service offered by Coins of the Realm. Trustworthy and honest. I would even use them for the Three Graces if it wasn't for me wanting to totally geek out on the process myself........there is something really cool about receiving update emails and being able to log in and see what is happening.......

Just go to the NGC website and join as a member. You will of course need to be mindful of the fees - 25$ joining fee to get direct submission rights and then grading and processing fees. The whole point of going through a third party is to reduce these fees, but then you lose control of the process and risk your coins being mixed up with others etc. 
You have a processing fee for each form - so better, if you are going to self grade, to wait until you can fill the form - that will save some money. Have a look at the site and review the costs. It is not difficult. 
Also, if you live in London, the NGC office is in central around the corner from the British Museum. That way you avoid postage fees too.
https://www.ngccoin.uk/join/
Cheers.

Grade, but do it yourself or via Coins of the Realm which is cheaper that other providers of a similar service. I self grade and would recommend it, but if you want a third party to assist, then you would at least get the actual coin you submitted back if you went with them. Others have been accused of switching to achieve the best possible outcome. Not something that I have personally experienced, but absolutely one that people talk about. 
 
The Royal Mint monitor Ebay sales. If you have listed it and do not then receive the coin from the Mint, do not be surprised.

Quality Assurance team have been off on the sick since the original Three Graces came out in 1817 

Just to save this link for the future the search page wasn't subject to queuing.
That's where the screenshot came from before 9am.
https://www.royalmint.com/search/SearchProductListing/?q=three graces&type=Shop