Murph

With prices are they are at the moment I haven't bought much at all lately.  almost jumped at a hgm notification for £600 and something thinking it was a 10 dollar this morning only to notice it was a 5 dollar indian head.  Crazy.  A bit over the spot price for a 10 dollar for a 5 dollar coin.  Then they had a 10 dollar for over £1100 just after.

I'd have said it was almost eF as well.  Maybe the obverse is EF with reverse being a bit below.  I'd think it's been cleaned as well although close to the letters isn't that much more dirty.  You can usually see where they couldn't clean in between letters as well.

The tone doesn't look natural either but that could be the picture and there doesn't appear to look like there is any lustre (although that's more a guess as it doesn't show well in pictures often).

I also tend to grade on the conservative side.

On 28/06/2021 at 23:07, stefffana said:

In my opinion, this "junk" coins are the most recognisable and safe investments, because:

 

2. Everyone trust in them, there are not fakes (excepting rare and sought after years, especially Crowns).

3. Are very liquid, easy to buy/sell in any quantity with 10%-20% premium for Pre20 and 0%-5% for Pre47.

 

you would be surprised at the number of forgeries from years ago.

selling them is easy while you have ebay and people willing to overpay but if you try to sell to dealers you won't get any premium and pre 47 50% stuff doesn't give great prices.

On 19/05/2021 at 16:38, Stacktastic said:

My friend is down 12k today. I told him to sell last week, but he bought a Harley with some of his profits, thats more than I have managed this year LOL. 
 

I sold my bitcoins when they were in the hundreds of dollars each to buy silver.  Imagine how disappointed I am.  I also misplaced a paper wallet with a bitcoin in it.

I mined lots of other crypto and gave up on them.  Doge which was a joke to start with so left hundreds of thousands in the online wallet that disappeared.

Not a lot.  
Given how easily damaged mirrors are and that’s through the slivering and a protective paint layer.

I think you’d probably find the silver is as thin or thinner than silver plated cutlery.

Wait another 10 years or so and you may well pick one up for release price or less as happens with most royal mint coins. 😀

I got a single sovereign from sharps pixley last week and it was showing as sent via special delivery.  They sent it out quickly as well.

I just ordered another pre decimal qe2 since I have very few of those and I’d like an almost complete date run from initial minting at some point.  Hopefully I get lucky and get a date I don’t already have.

On 12/02/2021 at 07:38, graham200666 said:

Every week you hear stories of people being scammed to move their cash from their account to another account and even told to withdraw cash and buy vouchers and pass on the numbers to the people on the other end of the phone which this last year has been the so called tax office. 

A lot of people who fall for this sort of thing are older.  They have never been in trouble with any authorities, aren’t internet savvy and so aren’t aware of some of these scams.  They panic when they hear they owe the tax office money and the words legal action.

Given time to sit and think about it they may well cotton on but the scammers rely on it being a sudden shock and put time constraints into their scam just so people don’t have time to think.

 I often wonder how some people who have managed to accrue savings of hundreds of thousands of pounds are so gullible as to continue giving considerable sums of money to these scammers but then I remember half the population are of below average intelligence. 😀

On 01/01/2021 at 15:27, BackyardBullion said:

This is incorrect.

The £135 limit is there to trigger when the responsibility becomes that of HMRC border control instead of retailers. 

For any transaction underneath £135 the retailer is required to register for UK VAT and charge it at source and then pay it to HMRC. 

If the company does not do this then at the border VAT will be applied and the company in question will possibly one day be penalised/fined/compulsorily registered for VAT on HMRC's behalf.

All the information can be found here:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/changes-to-vat-treatment-of-overseas-goods-sold-to-customers-from-1-january-2021/changes-to-vat-treatment-of-overseas-goods-sold-to-customers-from-1-january-2021

But how exactly are HMRC going to enforce making foreign sellers register for vat in the UK?  They haven’t got a hope in hell since they have no jurisdiction over sellers abroad.

Sure they could ban imports but I don’t think they would have much chance of getting away with that.  No way politicians would fight fore in governments over that.

Granted larger companies will not have a problem registering and some small sellers might stop sending to the UK but I can’t see a lot of Chinese sellers, for example paying any notice to this.

How can you be so sure UPS have paid out to them if they are refusing to divulge any information to you?

I doubt anything will come of mailing any mints apart from them politely acknowledging you.

If none of us ordered from goldsilver.be and posted here that we weren't because of this type of "customer service" maybe they would rethink things a little but as long as lots of us continue anyway....

I am  pointing out the ones I quoted the price for i.e. the equivalent ones to the H&B ones.  

This is a deals thread so I am not going to waste any more time replying to you when you are obviously trolling and it fills this thread with useless posts.

Some people may care what year they are buying so when someone posts a price for a 2020 and someone else says that's not a great deal you expect it to be exactly the same or for them to mention this.

Not everyone wants any coin or bar or to have to order a larger amount to actually beat the price otherwise we'd just post shop X is selling at Y per ounce.  Of course then someone else could say but shop A is selling gold for 0.5% less per ounce if you buy 10 ounces.

Nobody mentioned different sovereigns from the ones H&B were selling.

Point out exactly where I lied?

I said they were dearer for the same 2020 sovereign and quoted the price along with their other 'newly minted' sovereigns and the prices for them..

https://www.chards.co.uk/2020-gold-sovereign-uncirculated-coin/11022

3 minutes ago, cinereus said:

What make you think anyone's riled up?!

This is a deals thread. We're simply and indifferently pointing out it doesn't count as a good deal. Please do calm down.

Posting  prices for 10s vs  single coins and ones that aren't any cheaper isn't great either.

Chard are charging 334.97 plus postage for a single 2020

and still over 334 for 10 plus postage on top again.

10 minutes ago, cinereus said:

It's not a good deal and hasn't been all day. Spot is £313 and Chards are only 3.7% premium on 10s.

Really?

chard's 

10 quantity

5.2 % premium

£329.31 price each.

Plus postage.

That's for any sov from the last 5 years i.e. their best value new

Not that I want  or need 10.

Still dearer than £329

yes link please.  Can't see it on the H&B site..

Free delivery is sometimes free.  Companies sometimes offer free delivery for a short time or with a code and if you haven't searched it out you pay delivery.  For example I managed to get a proof 2020Ag brit and  white horse for under £80 each delivered from Royal Mint.

Would they use a Kuchler design given he wasn't directly working for the Royal Mint?

I'm sure a number of the sellers on here mention that if you want them to use anything but s.d. you do so at your own risk so I'm not sure where conventional wisdom saying to use signed for comes from?

Not that s.d. is great as I have had an item from atkinson's not turn up, a late delivery with an item from arishimo and a few other mishaps.

Some delivery services started taking pictures of your door so I wouldn't be surprised if they started taking pictures of people or thumbprints in future.

2 hours ago, augur said:

You must be using an interesting source: my Cyrillic deciphering is a bit rusty but to me It looks like Slovenia is named last rather than first: Александар краљ Срба, Хрвата и Словенаца 😉 

And @whuamai pointed out to me that this “united kingdom” has actually three variants with differing mint marks positions. 

It seems it may have been referred to in English, after the first world war until the mid 1920s iirc, with the Slovene part first at times if some webpages and maps are correct.  Word order can't always be directly translated to English so I don't know if it's worth arguing about

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Slovenes,_Croats_and_Serbs

Of course the coin was almost 100 years old in 1938 already and you are comparing a newly minted coin.

I think the young head victoria is much nicer as well.

Weren't there variations in the victorian one as well dirige, dirigit, plain edge and others?

Is that another to the left of the lion's fore paw and up a little?

As well as all the pretty postcards etc, they include.  They must shift a fair amount of stuff via the mail or they'd stop.

I wish I was an unscrupulous bugger who didn't mind over charging older people for coins!

By the way Atkinsons has also got some used Indian head $5 random years for £320 delivered or £340 for specific dates and a $2.5 indian head for £165

6 minutes ago, Pipers said:

Where was you😀, I remember when there was only about 8 -10 of us on here getting full Sovereigns for £165, mostly £170-£185 we were unhappy when the spot price went over £850 Toz 

When I was a lad...

Not looking to sell any silver but I've never seen anyone offering to refine your 50% pure silver for a 10% fee so I wondered where you got that price.  A lot less hassle than doing it at home and probably cheaper or just as cheap too.

On 27/08/2019 at 15:37, dimodae said:

50% junk silver coin lots are sold 1~5% below spot on ebay. So its not a bad option. Sterling and 500 have same melt fee and handling fee. (I know.. weird.. but checked throug various sources)

But like u said, getting sterling on ebay for Below spot is good idea too. But with junk silver coins u can play with them. Or maybe start cherry picking to differentiate better conditioned ones. I say 500 british silver coins ate probablt most cost efficient and FUN way of stackig silver. 

Where are you finding places that will melt your silver for 10% of the spot price no matter the purity?

Even finding many dealers that will give you the same price for scrap .500 or .999?