Fake or Not Half Sovereign

[Spyder]

Today was sent a photo asking if I wanted to buy these two Half sovereigns.  

Will not be able to get better photos until Tuesday. 

Will list one side 1st and the other in about an hour. 

What do members think? Give reasons for yes or no.

If someone can crop the photo, go ahead and I will delete this

Spyder

 

Edited February 17 by Spyder

[artalien]

[SidS]

There's either an abrasion or an indentation of some sort on the left one - right on the sideburns. Some jeweller's test cut?

Edited February 17 by SidS

[Petra]

Iffy moustache?🤔

[SidS]

Iffy hair on the right one, some rippling?

I'd steer well clear of this pair.

[James32]

One on the left looks to have a few differences, moustache, neck hairline ( hairline on the right one doesn't look great either) grainy texture overall. Pictures are brutal though and could be misleading. 

[HonestMoneyGoldSilver]

I'm a clueless idiot but the one on the left looks like a slightly melted version of the one on the right. If I knew that one was fake and one was real, I'd guess the left is fake

I would get caught out by so many fakes. I don't trust myself to buy gold from anyone except trusted members and major dealers

[Booky586]

I couldn't guess true or false based on the current photos, your need clearer detailed ones to judge. I can see some possible damage to the rim in the right one, on its edge adjacent too REX F D. Thought it might be the remains of a jewellers mount but who'd moun"t a coin sideways on?

[Spyder]

I think both have previously been mounted but like James said 'brutal photos'

[Spyder]

2 minutes ago, Booky586 said:

I couldn't guess true or false based on the current photos, your need clearer detailed ones to judge. I can see some possible damage to the rim in the right one, on its edge adjacent too REX F D. Thought it might be the remains of a jewellers mount but who'd moun"t a coin sideways on?

Could it have been mounted in a brooch?

[Booky586]

 

4 minutes ago, Spyder said:

Could it have been mounted in a brooch?

I honestly can't tell, just speculating.

 

[GoldDiggerDave]

Photos are both so washed out its anyones guess. 

[Xander]

If in doubt, leave it out. 

[Spyder]

@artalien Thanks for the earlier crop. If you could do the same again, we will all appreciate it. 

OK, this should make it a lot easier for everyone 

[James32]

1 minute ago, Spyder said:

@artalien Thanks for the earlier crop. If you could do the same again, we will all appreciate it. 

OK, this should make it a lot easier for everyone 

The dates look mental

[Zhorro]

1 minute ago, Spyder said:

@artalien Thanks for the earlier crop. If you could do the same again, we will all appreciate it. 

OK, this should make it a lot easier for everyone 

I am not an expert, but... the "1"s in "1919" do not look right.

[Zhorro]

1 minute ago, Zhorro said:

I am not an expert, but... the "1"s in "1919" do not look right.

Having now seen the expanded picture, I agree with @James32

[artalien]

[Booky586]

I think the marks on the rim are where they poured the brass into the casting mould!

[artalien]

6 minutes ago, Spyder said:

@artalien Thanks for the earlier crop.

Very welcome

[James32]

@Spyder I wouldn't buy these with free money.

[artalien]

The sword looks thinner or something to me.

[Zhorro]

Just now, artalien said:

The sword looks thinner or something to me.

In the "1919" one the dragon's claw actually extends into the rim design!

[Spyder]

Has no one noticed that the London mint did not issue half sovereign with these dates

In fact no one issued 1917 and only Perth mint issued 1919

Edited February 17 by Spyder

[pricha]

24 minutes ago, Spyder said:

Has no one noticed that the London mint did not issue half sovereign with these dates

In fact no one issued 1917 and only Perth mint issued 1919

A rare date then ?  get it bought .