QB,s 1 oz Gold Proof Full Set with The Completer.

[Howie]

I have acquired all of the Queens Beasts 1 oz Gold Proof Coins of which I am very proud and lucky to possess. I would be very interested to know if anyone else on TSF has the same and has them all Graded? I’ve asked on two other Topics in the forum but sadly no response.  I’m in two minds about grading when it comes to Rare Coins! I enjoy them in the presentation box they come with what a beautiful sight. I understand that Collectors only buy the best and from a buyers point of view quite rightly so but given there are only, at the most 380 Sets Worldwide buyers haven’t got that much of a choice anyway! Food for thought. If Grading then I’d go for The Completer which really isn’t part of the Set but a complimentary Coin which I think is the most  stunning of the whole series. Any thoughts advice or Pro + Contra about Grading would be most welcome. 

Stay Safe y,all Regards and greetings from rainy old Germany

Howie

 

[motorbikez]

No but I have the 1oz silver set all PF 70s & they are stunning. Re the gold coins you have it would spoil your set if you didn't get a full run of 70's & you can almost guarantee you'll get a least 2 or 3 69's.

 

Re the completer which is not really part of the set I'd just grade that one & keep your beautiful set as it is.

[CollectorNo1]

I'd keep them in the omp..I'm not a great believer in grading coins...its controversial and personal preference for you... imo paying a company to grade my coins..paying them to grade my  coins is exploiting us of our hard earned money.....just another new born idea to fleece us out of our fiat..but many collectors love to get their bullion or proof coins graded so they can sell on forums like Ebay and get a higher price. To each their own... but I'm not paying a company money..waiting on average of 45 days for the return on my coins hoping i will get a PF70 or MS70....which is unlikely.. or you can pay them more to receive your coins earlier....🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵 exploiting us big time...but to each their own ..

Regards.

 

[Spanishsilver]

6 hours ago, Howie said:

I have acquired all of the Queens Beasts 1 oz Gold Proof Coins of which I am very proud and lucky to possess. I would be very interested to know if anyone else on TSF has the same and has them all Graded? I’ve asked on two other Topics in the forum but sadly no response.  I’m in two minds about grading when it comes to Rare Coins! I enjoy them in the presentation box they come with what a beautiful sight. I understand that Collectors only buy the best and from a buyers point of view quite rightly so but given there are only, at the most 380 Sets Worldwide buyers haven’t got that much of a choice anyway! Food for thought. If Grading then I’d go for The Completer which really isn’t part of the Set but a complimentary Coin which I think is the most  stunning of the whole series. Any thoughts advice or Pro + Contra about Grading would be most welcome. 

Stay Safe y,all Regards and greetings from rainy old Germany

Howie

 

Here you go Howie not mine obviously 😆taken from a Facebook group. First full graded set that I have seen. 

[CollectorNo1]

I wish but don't have the Fiat you have unfortunately for me....

[Howie]

8 hours ago, CollectorNo1 said:

I'd keep them in the omp..I'm not a great believer in grading coins...its controversial and personal preference for you... imo paying a company to grade my coins..paying them to grade my  coins is exploiting us of our hard earned money.....just another new born idea to fleece us out of our fiat..but many collectors love to get their bullion or proof coins graded so they can sell on forums like Ebay and get a higher price. To each their own... but I'm not paying a company money..waiting on average of 45 days for the return on my coins hoping i will get a PF70 or MS70....which is unlikely.. or you can pay them more to receive your coins earlier....🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵 exploiting us big time...but to each their own ..

Regards.

 

My thoughts exactly but „What a difference a Grade makes“!

[CollectorNo1]

4 hours ago, Howie said:

My thoughts exactly but „What a difference a Grade makes“!

Yes makes a very big difference..but not always...what puts me off the most is sending my PM's through the post....and waiting over a month..anything could happen to them...although I havnt heard any horror stories..

[Howie]

2 hours ago, CollectorNo1 said:

Yes makes a very big difference..but not always...what puts me off the most is sending my PM's through the post....and waiting over a month..anything could happen to them...although I havnt heard any horror stories..

That’s one of my main worries. If The Completer eg. did get lost or somehow disappeared you’d only get the insurance money back. No replacement (I’d have to purchase for double the price I paid for this one) just the insurance! I have lost stuff (disappeared) with DHL before so I’d use a Courier. costly but peace of mind.

Take Care & Regards

[FlorinCollector]

@Howie I think it depends on how OCD you are if they get different grades. I prefer having my coins graded tbh. Also do you plan on selling these coins soon. If so grading can help but if your in no rush to sell you could leave it a while. Right now NGC waiting times are up and you could atleast wait till they come back down.

[dikefalos]

1 hour ago, Howie said:

That’s one of my main worries. If The Completer eg. did get lost or somehow disappeared you’d only get the insurance money back. No replacement (I’d have to purchase for double the price I paid for this one) just the insurance! I have lost stuff (disappeared) with DHL before so I’d use a Courier. costly but peace of mind.

Take Care & Regards

They grade millions of coins. I never heard, that they lost something. If that is just the reason for you not to grade this amazing coin set, just take it by yourself to NGC Munich, or go to a Grading Event at PCGS Paris. A ticket to Paris should not cost much more, than a insured courier to France.

But raw it's also a really stunning set.

[DaKine]

I many times do those one-way drop-offs here at local shows as I just don't want to lose the coins and have always had good fortune on their return journey from the TPGs with no losses. I can't say I am always pleased with the results however.

[Howie]

2 hours ago, FlorinCollector said:

@Howie I think it depends on how OCD you are if they get different grades. I prefer having my coins graded tbh. Also do you plan on selling these coins soon. If so grading can help but if your in no rush to sell you could leave it a while. Right now NGC waiting times are up and you could atleast wait till they come back down.

No not planning on selling them in the foreseeable future. I started collecting the series because I was fascinated by & admiring such beautiful Coins. I’d hoped, (I’ve started so I’ll finish) to get the full set. Wasn’t easy but got there somehow. Not much admiring them now though too scared of burgles etc. 

 

[Howie]

1 hour ago, dikefalos said:

They grade millions of coins. I never heard, that they lost something. If that is just the reason for you not to grade this amazing coin set, just take it by yourself to NGC Munich, or go to a Grading Event at PCGS Paris. A ticket to Paris should not cost much more, than a insured courier to France.

But raw it's also a really stunning set.

Thanks for your comments. It’s not the only reason why but also the principle of the matter as @CollectorNo1stated. For 1, 2 or 3  Coins OK but the full set?  Not really convinced. A Courier service would be around €25,00 peanuts compared with travel costs. München being the next NGC Office about 600 Km away but would be a nice weekend trip  though if it wasn’t for COVID-19.

Regards & Stay Safe

[FlorinCollector]

@Howie Yes that is a shame. We collect these nice things and you can’t even sit it on your desk in your house incase you are robbed. 😔 kind of ruins it.

[Howie]

2 minutes ago, FlorinCollector said:

@Howie Yes that is a shame. We collect these nice things and you can’t even sit it on your desk in your house incase you are robbed. 😔 kind of ruins it.

Too true! I don’t know about England or other European countries but Burglars here are on the rampage. I have one or the other in my Safe at Home which I take out & admire. Would love to buy a display cabinet but wishful thinking!

Regards & Take Care

[FlorinCollector]

@Howie I live in Scotland. Don't think it is too bad where I live but not worth taking the risk. 

[CollectorNo1]

1 hour ago, Howie said:

No not planning on selling them in the foreseeable future. I started collecting the series because I was fascinated by & admiring such beautiful Coins. I’d hoped, (I’ve started so I’ll finish) to get the full set. Wasn’t easy but got there somehow. Not much admiring them now though too scared of burgles etc. 

 

Where do you live..in a bank vault....😉

[Midasfrog]

Lovely series to collect in the 1oz . What does the Lion of England sell for at the moment ungraded ? they must be getting harder to find now as most likely kept by collectors .

[CollectorNo1]

Around £2000.

[Howie]

2 hours ago, CollectorNo1 said:

Where do you live..in a bank vault....😉

No place like Home!

[CollectorNo1]

On 27/08/2021 at 16:20, Howie said:

I have acquired all of the Queens Beasts 1 oz Gold Proof Coins of which I am very proud and lucky to possess. I would be very interested to know if anyone else on TSF has the same and has them all Graded? I’ve asked on two other Topics in the forum but sadly no response.  I’m in two minds about grading when it comes to Rare Coins! I enjoy them in the presentation box they come with what a beautiful sight. I understand that Collectors only buy the best and from a buyers point of view quite rightly so but given there are only, at the most 380 Sets Worldwide buyers haven’t got that much of a choice anyway! Food for thought. If Grading then I’d go for The Completer which really isn’t part of the Set but a complimentary Coin which I think is the most  stunning of the whole series. Any thoughts advice or Pro + Contra about Grading would be most welcome. 

Stay Safe y,all Regards and greetings from rainy old Germany

Howie

 

I personally believe this set looks so much better raw..than slabbed between 2 pieces of plastic....stunning....