Ugly and suspicious Scottsdale bar

[B33TR00T]

If you look around on the internet regarding fake silver bullion then it seems these Scottsdales are quite popular when it comes to being faked.

It occurred to me recently that the first thing I ever bought was this 1oz bar from ebay around 5 or 6 years ago, it has since been sitting in a drawer collecting dirt and whatnot, I forgot I had it until today.

It was much shinier when I bought it, but I do remember being surprised at the sharp and jagged edges on the rim of the bar - it could quite easily slice your fingers if you weren't careful, the front stamp is quite precise but the back stamp is quite off-center, and every other aspect of the geometry of the bar is very uneven and wonky as you can clearly see in the images.

What do you reckon?

How should I chew it up, scrape and scratch, drown it in toxic waste - to find out if it's real? Open to fun/interesting suggestions.

[Leonmarsh]

Not real thst imo unfortunately 

Eyes of lion, text giveaways 

[SilverStorm]

Easiest way to confirm authenticity is to take it to a reputable bullion dealer in your area and have them test it.   

[Foster88]

I cannot say for this bar of yours but the Royal Mint often supply bars with sharp edges.

Even those that have supposedly gone through quality control. 😬

[CollectorNo1]

Firstly I'd try the ole magnet test,if you hadn't already???

[greendragon]

i would do specific gravity test

these type of bars can be copper

i i hear, ( but have not confirmed myself ) that copper May pass the magnet slide test?

 

[KevinFlynn]

Saw it open, look at the core, even if it is silver it is most likely worth melt only the way it looks.

[B33TR00T]

8 minutes ago, KevinFlynn said:

Saw it open, look at the core, even if it is silver it is most likely worth melt only the way it looks.

This will never leave me anyway, real or fake.

It's sentimental 😢😄

[daca]

https://www.fakebullion.com/index.php/component/k2/item/23-scottsdale-silver-1-ounce-lion-bar

Take it to a bullion dealer  and ask them to  test it.   

Edited August 18, 2021 by daca

[Coincollector]

I have had these same bars and was certain they were fake. As the edge looked like plating being peeled off and with sharp edges. After filling and testing they were all silver.

I believe yours also to be genuine. They are just off poor quality with different thickness of edges throughout.

[CollectorNo1]

Interesting!!! But to be certain the only way is to get it tested..but if its just the one bar you have had for many years and was collecting dust,plus you had forgotten about it....well I wouldnyworry if it is a fake,but hopefully it isn't as know one wants a fake..😏

[Wampum]

Just my own opinion, however I would say it is ok, and has just been struck slightly of centre ,which has distorted the blank.

Can't say 100% however the reverse looks right for these, and also the Crown ,and lettering.   

You could file down the top of the sharp edge to see if there is a colour change which would not really damage the bar

[sellerstacker]

That actually looks legit to me. However, with these things it's always difficult to say without a personal inspection.

[CollectorNo1]

Personally I'd never take a file to a coin or bar..there are other ways to confirm if this is pure  silver...filing bits off isn't the way to go.....but your choice..

[Wampum]

25 minutes ago, CollectorNo1 said:

Personally I'd never take a file to a coin or bar..there are other ways to confirm if this is pure  silver...filing bits off isn't the way to go.....but your choice..

Nor I,

however with this, there is additional metal to the edge, which could be examined to see if the is any colour change with minimal markings/damage to the actual bar, I don't think you would have to file bits off to see the change.

with these most will pass the magnet test, and to have it tested would probably cost more than the bar itself.

A specific gravity test would be the best, however personally the bar looks good.