Should Replicas be stopped on eBay ?

[Pete]

Sorry guys but fakes are bad news and should be stopped.
Say you have a small safe full of fakes and you fall off the perch.
Your spouse or children open the safe and think they have a stack of silver which they intend to sell to pay for either a wild party or for funeral expenses.
They check your computer and discover this forum with your avatar and list the coins in batches not knowing they are fakes because they look genuine.
There are not any markings to distinguish them from the real thing - an innocent mistake on their part.
We stackers, trusting this site ( or in future some other trading forum ) buy these fakes and don't test them because we trust the seller, then we mix them up with our genuine coins.
Years down the road we sell some and an astute buyer spots a fake .... work it out !!

[Vern]

100% YES

But I doubt Alibaba or feebay etc will take notice of my opinion. 

When I see people paying full (real solid precious metal ) price for a clad or mills item it makes me cringe.

[Murph]

I guess anyone with £160k of cash sitting around would have been of great interest to HMRC.  Wouldn't you put it in a bank rather than buying a cheap costco safe that probably was rated at £10k max?

Could this be a way to dodge the taxman or not share it out?  "It's been stolen just after I put it in this cheap safe honest"

[HelpingHands]

Another fake account and they are using @SilverTrader pictures.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2016-American-Silver-Eagle-unc-1-oz-Troy-ounce-Fine-Silver-bullion-Coin-/331758531438?hash=item4d3e59736e:g:lqgAAOSwUV9Wn1Us

 

[SilverTrader]

Hi guys 

yep already reported the 2 accounts to eBay 

lets see how long they take to remove them

[SilverTrader]

Big thank you to Ashimo and helpinghands for the heads up :-)

[StackerJack]

I totally agree with Pete.

[HelpingHands]

New plan.

Since some business sellers on eBay who have their name and address on show are stupid enough to sell counterfeit currency they are now being reported to the police. 

[HelpingHands]

@morezone

I think this seller is using your photo to sell their rubbish.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2016-Australian-Lunar-Year-of-the-Monkey-Silver-plated-Coin-/141899390401?hash=item2109dcddc1:g:w5UAAOSwPc9WudMj

 

[JohnA]

Also there a tons of mislabeled coins

I even messaged this buyer and told him are you sure about this because the coin holder itself says just PR 67. He said that the grading company made an error. I said "Wow that's an interesting story."

The coin is worth $75 max

 

[crocky]

There is a regular seller from Vietnam selling plated, mainly Australian, bullion, sold one yesterday for [3 hours before end] high bid of £15, real dangerous range don't sell formuch more, alarming, as they are described as plated.

[MikeOxlong]

On 1/28/2016 at 02:16, HelpingHands said:

New plan.

Since some business sellers on eBay who have their name and address on show are stupid enough to sell counterfeit currency they are now being reported to the police. 

Except it wont be their name or address..

[HelpingHands]

I don't mean hacked accounts.

[HelpingHands]

CCT's video of fake 2016 Panda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMb_chcRr34

 

[HelpingHands]

I didnt know that we have some foreign protected coins.  See part 2

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forgery_and_Counterfeiting_Act_1981

Fake krug sellers on ebay should be reported to the police then?

[HelpingHands]

Fake Morgans.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Morgan-Dollars-15-Superb-Facsimiles-Mixed-Dates-Can-Mail-To-US-/182119075129?hash=item2a67248d39:g:8JMAAOSw3mpXI8Tx

 

[sovereignsteve]

Yes, sadly fakes are widespread and have been for years

[matrawr]

2 hours ago, HelpingHands said:

Fake Morgans.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Morgan-Dollars-15-Superb-Facsimiles-Mixed-Dates-Can-Mail-To-US-/182119075129?hash=item2a67248d39:g:8JMAAOSw3mpXI8Tx

 

Kinda gives it away if you're familiar with the wording they use to market fakes and I quote "non magnetic" anyone reading this watch out for those two words.

[sovereignsteve]

2 hours ago, matrawr said:

Kinda gives it away if you're familiar with the wording they use to market fakes and I quote "non magnetic" anyone reading this watch out for those two words.

It's not that complicated; it says they are replicas in the title. Therefore not trying to misrepresent them as genuine.

[Stu]

Seller is from Leicester I see where all things from there at the moment are golden, err silver I mean.

[matrawr]

11 hours ago, sovereignsteve said:

It's not that complicated; it says they are replicas in the title. Therefore not trying to misrepresent them as genuine.

Sorry Steve I can't see the word fake unless facsimiles is another word they use?

[HighlandTiger]

The word "fake" is no different to the word "copy", "facsimile" or "replica".

I have no sympathy for anyone who buys fakes (and yes I include myself in that. I got burned once myself but the seller refunded me immediately and paid my postage costs)

The info on how to spot fakes, dodgy sellers and hacked accounts are readily available. You will never stop chancers trying to do a con, but you can stop yourself being the one who is conned.

Personally I wouldn't waste any time trying to stop these sellers. If the mints themselves can't be arsed to put pressure on Ebay, then you are peeing in the wind thinking you are going to make a difference.

[Danny-boy]

The word "fake" is no different to the word "copy", "facsimile" or "replica".

I have no sympathy for anyone who buys fakes (and yes I include myself in that. I got burned once myself but the seller refunded me immediately and paid my postage costs)

The info on how to spot fakes, dodgy sellers and hacked accounts are readily available. You will never stop chancers trying to do a con, but you can stop yourself being the one who is conned.

Personally I wouldn't waste any time trying to stop these sellers. If the mints themselves can't be arsed to put pressure on Ebay, then you are peeing in the wind thinking you are going to make a difference.

This is a rare occasion when I agree with you 100%.

[matrawr]

Thanks for the response I got burned once and also got a refund thankfully but we learn from each other and hadn't heard of facsimile before so thanks for the heads up. ☺

[gkoogk]

What are the chinese goverment doing about the near perfect fakes of our gold and silver coins flooding the market..makes me avoid any chinese coins for a start..how would they react if some western  counterfeiter flooded china with forged yens in the billions