AndrewSL76

Look at it like this - it went for £5 more than you bid, but had you placed more bids, so might the other person. You could have saved yourself a bit of money. Yes, it is annoying that the other person got the coin at a good price, but there will be more.

Depending on what you were looking for it was not too bad. I got one coin for a lot less that I thought it would sell for. Pretty happy. Also, four of my coins sold - three for profit and one at loss - overall I am up by a tidy amount. Happy.

£6k is a lot of money but it is still reasonable for the Una in a 70 grade. It was selling for £7k+ previously.

That is not odd at all. I know a few people who are bidding today who have not started yet. People who just want to bid live. Good luck on that one item!! We are not in competition as there are no sovereigns for me this time...just the commemorative stuff!

Good luck to all those bidding and selling tomorrow.

If you say ‘oranges’ really, really slowly it sounds like ‘gullible’, which as you say is also not even in the dictionary.

If anyone has sent back the 1/4oz QB Silver Proof set, please can you confirm the CoA? Like others, I am still waiting for my first set to arrive - I was told it was part of the second batch and should be sent out in August. I just want to take care that I am not taking delivery of a set that one of you have returned! I will of course check the set - I just want to have an idea of the CoA's too. Cheers!

The terms and conditions clearly stipulate that payment is due in 14 days. This is what is important here. The invoices do not reference a time period, they reference the terms and conditions. Legally and administratively nothing can happen until day 15 post issuance of the invoice. However, why anyone would not clear an invoice once received and wait until the last minute or even later is beyond me. Once you place a bid you are committing to buy and you should clear the payment at the earliest point.

You have 14 days to pay via Coin Cabinet. It was 21 days but they have recently amended and updated their terms and conditions. Section 8.2 sets out (and note the the following is an extract) that: 8.2. Notwithstanding the rights as set out under clause 12, should a Buyer fail to pay within 14 days after receiving an invoice, the Auctioneer reserves the right to take legal proceedings against the Buyer, as well as pass collection over to a debt collection agency. This would entail a collection fee of 15% of the value of the total order, payable by the Buyer. [...] https://thecoincabinet.com/terms-conditions/

Thanks! Good luck to you too. I wonder what the best strategy for bidding is. I have marked some coins in the past for watching and waited till the live auction to bid. My view was that I really wanted the coins and so would not drive the price up. However on other occasions I have struggled to make the live auction and so placed my highest bid in the week before the auction. It is hit and miss for me. I find that when I bid live, I sometimes go a little higher than I would have liked but then I miss out on that opportunity to get a stunning coin that may not be offered again when I only bid in advance! Thoughts?

Anyone win anything! I bagged a couple of graded half sovereigns at very good prices. Haven’t received them yet (or notification of postage) which is unusual, but hopefully tomorrow!!

Anyone got bids in? I have bids on 10 items but already out bid on six of them and I cannot be going higher!! The remaining four are still quite a way behind my highest bids. I am guessing I will not get any given how recent auctions have gone but keeping fingers crossed!!

It could be worth a wee bit extra if you had a 003 or a 333. Would you rather have 007 on a Bond coin or 001 on a Bond coin? That’s just my view.

Some good movement in prices already and some bargains to be had, for sure (at this point!!). Will be interesting to see how the move to weekdays works. I have a feeling it will work out well. From my perspective a Tuesday is way better than a Sunday. I have a few items in this auction too, so do not be shy!!!

Andrew’s boring but interesting fact #1: the word ‘facetious’ is the only word in the English language that contains all the vowels, in the correct order, once.

I agree with what the others have said. Plus, there is a market for curiosities like that. I would send it off for grading and ask NGC/PCGS to confirm the strike error on the label. People collect the strike errors and will sometimes pay a decent premium for them.......when you get lemons, make lemonade my friend. Welcome to the forum by the way. Thanks for sharing a really interesting first thread/comment.

I think a letter would be good. They have customer care and surely the numbers of returns should speak for themselves and the letter would just confirm for them how bad this release has been? I haven’t received my 1/4oz set yet. I’m told it’s due in late August so sadly I cannot really share your sadness (yet)...

Fixed it for them: “What are Proof coins? Proof coins from any other Mint are the highest quality commemorative coins. Their sharpness, detail and finish are unrivalled, making them perfect for collectors looking for highest levels of craftsmanship and detail. Here at the Royal Mint, we try but we accept that sometimes we fail. The dies used to strike our Proof coins are hand-finished by Dave, our prison release apprentice, to ensure that some imperfections are removed. Blanks are forced into the coin press by screwdriver before being struck up to one time, at a lower speed and with less pressure than other finishes, to preserve the finer details of the design, but mainly so that Dave can keep up. After striking, each coin is briefly inspected for perfections by Sandra in accounts. Sandra can’t wear gloves as she has long glued on nails. Hence the odd finger print. The dies are then cleaned with hair between each coin to ensure that marks and perfections are caused during striking. As a result of Dave and Sandra’s efforts, no more than 4 Proof coins can be struck within an hour. Proof dies are also regularly damaged to maintain the low quality of the finish. Each Proof die will strike over fifteen coins before it has to be polished with the wire wool. Because of these efforts, we can only guarantee a 68 if you send off for grading. However, if you pay extra for conservation, they should be able to remove Sandra’s finger prints.”

Sorry but this is absolute bullsh*t (their position, not your comment!) They have to be consistent. They cannot publish that section about striking standards and then say ‘oh the dust, milk spots are fine because it’s a 68’. Sorry, but they either follow their published standards or they don’t. If they don’t, then they should rewrite them accordingly to confirm that you may get a substandard coin when buying a new proof.

Anyone returning their coins and having issues should direct the Royal Mint to their own website where they confirm: “What are Proof coins? Proof coins are the highest quality commemorative coins. Their sharpness, detail and finish are unrivalled, making them perfect for collectors looking for highest levels of craftsmanship and detail. The dies used to strike Proof coins are hand-finished to ensure that all imperfections are removed. Blanks are fed into the coin press by hand before being struck up to six times, at a lower speed and with less pressure than other finishes, to preserve the finer details of the design. After striking, each coin is inspected for imperfections. The dies are cleaned with air between each coin to ensure that no marks or imperfections are caused during striking. As a result of this extra care and attention, no more than 50 Proof coins can be struck within an hour. Proof dies are also regularly reworked to maintain the quality of the finish. Each Proof die may only strike a few hundred coins before it has to be repolished.” https://www.royalmint.com/discover/coin-collecting/striking-standards/

I think the designer is clearly talented and obviously has a good eye, but to be fair the combination of the subject matter with the fact that she wasn’t hugely energetic about the product resulted in a poor design. Can anyone think of a better way to produce this product? It’s not like Winnie the Pooh or Mr Men etc (which are far simpler and probably easier to deal with/design). I honestly can’t think of a better design for this series myself. Part of me thinks it was too broad/complex a subject matter to manage.......I wonder what Jody Clark would have done. I don’t imagine it being better. Will be interesting to see future designs from her and look forward to maybe buying one! I’ve passed on the AIWL design. Just not for me.

https://www.royalmint.com/our-coins/events/alices-adventures-in-wonderland/meet-the-maker-ffion-gwillim/ Not on sale till August........

I’ve just read the blog ‘meet the maker’ where there is a Q&A with the coin designer. She doesn’t appear too keen on the books...or at least her answer side steps the question: Q: Are you a fan of the books? A: “I was very aware of them and enjoyed learning and discovering more as part of the project.” Oh dear...

There was initially a huge price difference when you commit to the two coin set. e.g. £650 for a single 1/4oz or £550 if you buy both......that has since been changed. The prices are all now consistent. Anyone manage to get one whilst the prices were incorrect!!?

Oh! And for those that have asked in the past....I honestly have no clue what the issue with 69 was. Looking at them side by side it is next to impossible to see any issues...🤷🏻‍♂️