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Thelonerangershorse

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    Thelonerangershorse reacted to Silverman2U in Scottsdale Lion 5oz and 2oz stackers (round)   
    I’d do spot. But that’s probably not deemed “sensible”  these days. 
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    Thelonerangershorse reacted to paulmerton in Scottsdale Lion 5oz and 2oz stackers (round)   
    2x 5oz Scottsdale stackers - £310 for the pair (currently >£191 each at BBP)
    10x 2oz Scottsdale stackers still in tube - £620 ono (currently £75 each at BBP for qty of 10)
    Both sizes stack with each other. Plus postage.
    2ozers in tube:

    5ozers:

     
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    Thelonerangershorse reacted to theman73 in 1 oz The Valiant 2019 silver coins in original plastic capsules   
    1 oz The Valiant 2019 silver coins in original plastic capsules
    £28 each plus postage
    BT PPFF


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    Thelonerangershorse got a reaction from 9x883 in Today I Received.....   
    If anyone want to try:
    https://www.keziefoods.co.uk/product/butchers-shop/burgers/crocodile-quarter-pounders-226g/
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    Thelonerangershorse got a reaction from MrStacker in Today I Received.....   
    What ??   There's money to be made from c**p quality RM coins?!
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    Thelonerangershorse got a reaction from GoldDiggerDave in Today I Received.....   
    What ??   There's money to be made from c**p quality RM coins?!
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    Thelonerangershorse reacted to Fishface220 in Today I Received.....   
    Some more off to storage for the long term pension stack…. 

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    Thelonerangershorse got a reaction from Charliemouse in GOLD DEALS - (UK & Europe) See a deal, post it here   
    1/10 oz @ £192.35 posted, only 3 left,
    https://www.hattongardenmetals.com/tenth-gold-britannia-coa
     
    not for sale to mice.
     
     
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    Thelonerangershorse got a reaction from martysov in whos buying gold or are u waiting for a bigger dip   
    It's not turned on.
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    Thelonerangershorse got a reaction from CoinCupboard in GOLD DEALS - (UK & Europe) See a deal, post it here   
    Status is now "despatched", but the tracking number doesn't actually work, But hopefully we'll see tomorrow.
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    Thelonerangershorse reacted to WolfStacker in Queen Beasts in very good condition   
    1 x 2019 Falcon of the Plantagenets - 2 oz 999.9 silver - £70 posted UK standard
    1 x 2019 Yale of Beaufort - 2 oz 999.9 silver - sold
    Capsules included 

    Postage can be upgraded to an extra cost (UK only)

    Payment - BT


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    Thelonerangershorse got a reaction from modofantasma in Gold Monitoring Thread £ GBP only   
    £1815, Let's see @modofantasma post a picture of that soveriegn!
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    Thelonerangershorse got a reaction from 9x883 in Gold Monitoring Thread £ GBP only   
    £1815, Let's see @modofantasma post a picture of that soveriegn!
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    Thelonerangershorse got a reaction from Esjayc in Different gold types   
    The big thing is simply, Space, If you're just starting stacking this doesn't seem like much of a problem but several years down the line, a tube of soveriegns is about half the size of a tube of smarties and fits in the palm of your hand, the equivalent amount of silver is around 14 tubes of Britannias weighing in at around 11Kg
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    Thelonerangershorse reacted to HonestMoneyGoldSilver in Different gold types   
    I can give you some basics but there are much better coin experts on TSF than me:
    1) A sovereign is 7.998 grams of 91.7% gold (22 Karat), or an AGW (Actual Gold Weight) equivalent of 7.322g fine gold (999/9999 gold or 24 Karat). A sovereign = £1
    2) A double sovereign is like the name suggests - double the gold weight of a regular sovereign and = £2
    3) A modern Britannia coin is 99.99% gold (24 Karat). The AGW (Actual Gold Weight) is equivalent to the weight of the coin - e.g. a 1oz Britannia is 1oz of fine gold
    4) Those are Troy Ounces (31.1035g) not metric ounces (28.35g)
    5) The design can make a difference to the premium although premiums are generally more closely tied to scarcity than the subjective beauty of the design
    6) For investment stacking you don't need to consider the design you should concentrate on AGW (Actual Gold Weight) and low premiums
    7) In the UK an important component of stacking gold is CGT-exempt coins. CGT = Capital Gains Tax. Any coin produced by the Royal Mint that has a face value (£1, £2, £100, etc) is CGT-exempt. This means you can buy and sell an unlimited amount of these coins without having to declare your profit to HMRC - i.e. these coins are completely tax free, no taxable events take place when buying/selling as a private individual
    8 ) Other gold coins like world gold and some coins produced by the Royal Mint may not be CGT-exempt, so taxes might be due on realised profits above the CGT threshold (currently £3000/tax year). There is a whole library on the HMRC website detailing which coins are and are not CGT-exempt. The simple rule is as above - sovereigns are CGT-exempt as is any coin with a face value. Note that gold bars, even Britannia gold bars produced by the Royal Mint, are not CGT-exempt
    9) For pure investment purposes you want the lowest premium coins that are still highly liquid, CGT-exempt and recognised globally. By those 4 metrics the single best coin to stack is arguably the sovereign and the half-sovereign (half the AGW of a sovereign). Any other CGT-exempt coin like the Britannia is just as good as a sovereign if you can get a similar size at the same premium, however, the premium for the closest equivalent AGW Britannia (1/4 oz) tends to be slightly higher than the premium on sovereigns, but not always
    10) In short for simplicity you want to stack sovereigns and 1/4oz Britannias. If you have a slightly larger budget then buying 1oz Britannias (or any other CGT-exempt coin) is a good option. The premiums on 1oz coins are slightly lower but the trade-off is it's harder to sell a 1oz gold coin than a 1/4oz gold coin or 1/10oz gold coin. The smaller the coin the more liquid (easy to sell) the coin becomes. For this reason the smaller coins (half-sovereigns, 1/10th ounce, 1/20th ounce) are becoming more popular as the price of gold increases
    11) There are all sorts of pros and cons with regards collectible gold like "shield" sovereigns, scarce coins, world and historic gold, etc. Before buying these you should do your own research. It's possible that some collectible (numismatic) coins will end up as better investments than bullion (best value) coins but you need to understand the market before paying extra premiums for collectible or world gold coins
    12) The same rules about CGT-exemption also apply to silver - i.e. silver coins produced by the Royal Mint with a face value (£2, £5, £10, etc) are CGT-exempt. For this reason most silver stackers in the UK have Britannias and other CGT-exempt coins as the cornerstone of their silver stack. The CGT thing is less of a problem with silver though. Feel free to buy some world silver coins like Perth Mint, Germania, KOMSCO, etc. The coins from those mints tend to be higher quality than modern Royal Mint silver coins and so keep their premiums better than Royal Mint coins - i.e. better for resale if/when the time comes to sell
    13) Remember that investment gold is VAT-exempt in the UK whereas silver is not VAT-exempt. By default this makes gold a better investment choice in the UK than silver. Having said that you won't be paying VAT on silver on TSF, so buying silver here on The Silver Forum can be very attractive
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    Thelonerangershorse got a reaction from Brit2023 in whos buying gold or are u waiting for a bigger dip   
    It's not turned on.
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    Thelonerangershorse got a reaction from Esjayc in whos buying gold or are u waiting for a bigger dip   
    Speak for yourself.
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    Thelonerangershorse got a reaction from Brit2023 in GOLD DEALS - (UK & Europe) See a deal, post it here   
    1/10 oz @ £192.35 posted, only 3 left,
    https://www.hattongardenmetals.com/tenth-gold-britannia-coa
     
    not for sale to mice.
     
     
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    Thelonerangershorse got a reaction from jultorsk in Gold Monitoring Thread £ GBP only   
    The saying used on the share dealing forum was "Never catch a falling knife"
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    Thelonerangershorse got a reaction from SidS in Gold Monitoring Thread £ GBP only   
    Sell the dip.
    Sell the dip.
    Someone, please, sell the dip.
     
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    Thelonerangershorse got a reaction from Brit2023 in whos buying gold or are u waiting for a bigger dip   
    Speak for yourself.
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    Thelonerangershorse got a reaction from m3rlin in GOLD DEALS - (UK & Europe) See a deal, post it here   
    1/10 oz @ £192.35 posted, only 3 left,
    https://www.hattongardenmetals.com/tenth-gold-britannia-coa
     
    not for sale to mice.
     
     
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    Thelonerangershorse reacted to ArgentSmith in Gold Monitoring Thread £ GBP only   
    Thats that cleared up then!
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    Thelonerangershorse got a reaction from Aldebaran in All I want for Christmas is . . . . . . . . ? 1oz of GOLD? a sovereign??? let's get it and all be part of the journey   
    Just to be the awkward one, when I was made redundant, I had PPI, and it was great.
     
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