Jeffers46

If that is the case and you are a collector, it doesn’t matter. Why? You are holding the coin so eventually the flippers will be out of the way and the true value will be realised by the free market.
I’m a bit Fed-up of reading snarky, snidey comments. Life is too short! 

Great comment. 
 
Some people think they are more entitled to a newly released coin than others, simply because they are ‘collectors’. What a strange position to take, almost like it comes from a place of hurt personal feeling that ‘I have missed out’. 
 
It’s the free market baby, put up or shut up in my view. They don’t seem to complain if it benefits them…

Great comment. 
 
Some people think they are more entitled to a newly released coin than others, simply because they are ‘collectors’. What a strange position to take, almost like it comes from a place of hurt personal feeling that ‘I have missed out’. 
 
It’s the free market baby, put up or shut up in my view. They don’t seem to complain if it benefits them…

Great comment. 
 
Some people think they are more entitled to a newly released coin than others, simply because they are ‘collectors’. What a strange position to take, almost like it comes from a place of hurt personal feeling that ‘I have missed out’. 
 
It’s the free market baby, put up or shut up in my view. They don’t seem to complain if it benefits them…

Great comment. 
 
Some people think they are more entitled to a newly released coin than others, simply because they are ‘collectors’. What a strange position to take, almost like it comes from a place of hurt personal feeling that ‘I have missed out’. 
 
It’s the free market baby, put up or shut up in my view. They don’t seem to complain if it benefits them…

Great comment. 
 
Some people think they are more entitled to a newly released coin than others, simply because they are ‘collectors’. What a strange position to take, almost like it comes from a place of hurt personal feeling that ‘I have missed out’. 
 
It’s the free market baby, put up or shut up in my view. They don’t seem to complain if it benefits them…

Great comment. 
 
Some people think they are more entitled to a newly released coin than others, simply because they are ‘collectors’. What a strange position to take, almost like it comes from a place of hurt personal feeling that ‘I have missed out’. 
 
It’s the free market baby, put up or shut up in my view. They don’t seem to complain if it benefits them…

If that is the case and you are a collector, it doesn’t matter. Why? You are holding the coin so eventually the flippers will be out of the way and the true value will be realised by the free market.
I’m a bit Fed-up of reading snarky, snidey comments. Life is too short! 

Great comment. 
 
Some people think they are more entitled to a newly released coin than others, simply because they are ‘collectors’. What a strange position to take, almost like it comes from a place of hurt personal feeling that ‘I have missed out’. 
 
It’s the free market baby, put up or shut up in my view. They don’t seem to complain if it benefits them…

Great comment. 
 
Some people think they are more entitled to a newly released coin than others, simply because they are ‘collectors’. What a strange position to take, almost like it comes from a place of hurt personal feeling that ‘I have missed out’. 
 
It’s the free market baby, put up or shut up in my view. They don’t seem to complain if it benefits them…

Agree with you James.

Don’t we all buy any coin with the hope of it rising in value, be it straight away or over time? Whether you sell it now, in 10 years time or decide to hand it to your children, the assumption we all make is that it will be more valuable at that point. So what difference does it ultimately make?
 
I don’t get the animosity on here towards people that sell their coin immediately. Who cares? Once you own it you are free to do with it as you please. Likewise if you don’t own it you are free to pay asking price or leave it. It’s down to you as an individual, freedom coinsters, freedom. We are blessed to have just to have this opportunity.
 
After all, we can’t take our coins with us when we pop our clogs. 
 

Didn’t see any snarky comments in the post you copied, just someone’s synopsis of the current situation.
Woops, just reread the last paragraph, retract the above!

If that is the case and you are a collector, it doesn’t matter. Why? You are holding the coin so eventually the flippers will be out of the way and the true value will be realised by the free market.
I’m a bit Fed-up of reading snarky, snidey comments. Life is too short! 

If that is the case and you are a collector, it doesn’t matter. Why? You are holding the coin so eventually the flippers will be out of the way and the true value will be realised by the free market.
I’m a bit Fed-up of reading snarky, snidey comments. Life is too short! 

Well said 👍

Do you think its ALL hype ?
Some of the stuff that the RM pumps out is of little interest to me. And even if they sell out quickly, I wouldn't think they will hold even retail value to some extent.
There are other series the mint produces which are far better. I really liked the queens beasts completer for example. Just had a look on ebay they seem to be holding well above retail even after the hype has ended.
I think even the three graces is doing well compared to most, even after the hype has ended.
The three graces went crazy after release, and seems to have settled to perhaps its level.
I do like to think there is an element of investment in collecting coins, I certainly wouldn't like to think its all money lost.

The flipping of these coins has produced an unnatural and inflated market. The days of studying the coin and making a reasoned decision to purchase at your leisure have gone. Now, if you don't buy immediately from the source then you have no choice but to purchase on the secondary market or go without.
Historically popular coins were a slow-burn that increased in value over time. Part of the process was the diminishing numbers of available coins, something that is rarely going to happen with modern proofs. The expectation that a brand new coin should immediately be worth 2 or 3 times it's purchase price is unrealistic - driven by speculators and, to some extent, grading companies.  
Pretty much everyone who collects / buys RM coins does so in the expectation of future profits. The reality is that the majority of coins end up worth a lot less than the original sale price. Who can blame flippers for cashing in on the hype - striking whilst the iron is hot is not a bad thing in itself. But it does leave a sour taste in my mouth.
The real question is - why do people fall for the hype over and over again ?
 

Yeah sorry but in my humble opinion, send that back but be sure to seek assurance you will get a replacement. 
I agree with @MrB you seem to have an issue on the bottom O also.

Yeah I'm not fighting their corner by any stretch of the imagination but simply suggesting that deep down we all have a price?
And I don't put stuff on the sales forum to loose money lol ( break even or small profit suits me) so essentially I'm a flipper on some level.
Most importantly though my response to the op was born from the fact that saying flippers must be poor and/or desperate is both naive and insulting. 
Imagine they are a large portion of them poor and desperate?? Let them eat like the rest of us I say.

I've sent stuff back for that kind of thing. For the price you pay you want better than that. 
Looks like you are missing another piece on the O at the bottom of the picture too.

Agree with you James.

Don’t we all buy any coin with the hope of it rising in value, be it straight away or over time? Whether you sell it now, in 10 years time or decide to hand it to your children, the assumption we all make is that it will be more valuable at that point. So what difference does it ultimately make?
 
I don’t get the animosity on here towards people that sell their coin immediately. Who cares? Once you own it you are free to do with it as you please. Likewise if you don’t own it you are free to pay asking price or leave it. It’s down to you as an individual, freedom coinsters, freedom. We are blessed to have just to have this opportunity.
 
After all, we can’t take our coins with us when we pop our clogs. 
 

Agree with you James.

Don’t we all buy any coin with the hope of it rising in value, be it straight away or over time? Whether you sell it now, in 10 years time or decide to hand it to your children, the assumption we all make is that it will be more valuable at that point. So what difference does it ultimately make?
 
I don’t get the animosity on here towards people that sell their coin immediately. Who cares? Once you own it you are free to do with it as you please. Likewise if you don’t own it you are free to pay asking price or leave it. It’s down to you as an individual, freedom coinsters, freedom. We are blessed to have just to have this opportunity.
 
After all, we can’t take our coins with us when we pop our clogs. 
 

Agree with you James.

Don’t we all buy any coin with the hope of it rising in value, be it straight away or over time? Whether you sell it now, in 10 years time or decide to hand it to your children, the assumption we all make is that it will be more valuable at that point. So what difference does it ultimately make?
 
I don’t get the animosity on here towards people that sell their coin immediately. Who cares? Once you own it you are free to do with it as you please. Likewise if you don’t own it you are free to pay asking price or leave it. It’s down to you as an individual, freedom coinsters, freedom. We are blessed to have just to have this opportunity.
 
After all, we can’t take our coins with us when we pop our clogs. 
 

Agree with you James.

Don’t we all buy any coin with the hope of it rising in value, be it straight away or over time? Whether you sell it now, in 10 years time or decide to hand it to your children, the assumption we all make is that it will be more valuable at that point. So what difference does it ultimately make?
 
I don’t get the animosity on here towards people that sell their coin immediately. Who cares? Once you own it you are free to do with it as you please. Likewise if you don’t own it you are free to pay asking price or leave it. It’s down to you as an individual, freedom coinsters, freedom. We are blessed to have just to have this opportunity.
 
After all, we can’t take our coins with us when we pop our clogs. 
 

Agree with you James.

Don’t we all buy any coin with the hope of it rising in value, be it straight away or over time? Whether you sell it now, in 10 years time or decide to hand it to your children, the assumption we all make is that it will be more valuable at that point. So what difference does it ultimately make?
 
I don’t get the animosity on here towards people that sell their coin immediately. Who cares? Once you own it you are free to do with it as you please. Likewise if you don’t own it you are free to pay asking price or leave it. It’s down to you as an individual, freedom coinsters, freedom. We are blessed to have just to have this opportunity.
 
After all, we can’t take our coins with us when we pop our clogs.