Frenchie

Oh yes I forgot about the plain edge variants of the gold coins.
Luckily there’s zero chance of the Petition Crown having a plain edge variant. 😜

I don’t take good pictures like many of you do on here but this one made me happy…

A beautiful Quintuple Memorial Sovereign.  Very pleased, I cannot spot any significant flaws.
I plan to take a few more photos, then off to grading - don't think I'm brave enough to remove it from the capsule.

I agree with what you said about the horrid release of the GC, this coin IMO is the best of the bunch the split launch was a joke.  The PC should be sold as a 2 coin set straight off the bat to stop the messing around trying to get the other coin especially if you bought them on the secondary market.     
Mintage figures!!!!!!!!   this is the only thing that could put the coins back on track, they need to lower them dramatically to make them more exclusive, if they keep on wanging up the mintage like they are doing it will be the death-nail for the series.   We need to see circa 225-250 max for the 2oz golds anything more than 300 then I'm not touching them unless the coin really floats my boat. 
 

I know right!? Ever since the series was first announced, the Gothic Crown was the most hotly anticipated coin… and it flopped spectacularly.
Indeed, the only things that its failure can be attributed to are the higher mintages and the split release. 

Thanks to @stackerp5for this 5 Rubles 

I was slightly inclined to get the 2 Oz silver, and potentially the 5 Oz silver, depending on mintage, just to have a token of this series.
However, this wasn’t a coin that appealed to me ever since it was first rumoured on here, and after seeing the Westminster Collection replica today (boring design in boring shiny silver) I’m convinced that, at least for me, this is a pass.
Flippers may indeed make a few % profit in the short term, simply because this will be marketed as part of the Great Engravers range, and those who missed out on the previous coins may try to jump on the bandwagon now. But, as we’ve seen with the Gothic Crown release, that ship has long sailed.
I personally will let this one pass in lieu of the Coronation coins, whose designs I hope will be more appealing, besides being associated with a historic occasion.
In a way I’m glad the RM picked this coin for 2023 as I can let it pass without second guessing myself and continue saving up for the Coronation coins and especially the Coronation Sovereign(s).

Looking at the number of posts about this new GE and the last being a few days ago, it does not seem to carry a  lot of enthusiasm...we are far from the 3G announcement. Does this bode well for the success of this release ?
Just an observation 

I personally think the RM have missed the mark on this.
Maybe it’ll be rare if most people sit this one out. But how many can really risk £££ on such speculation in an already speculative area?

Too many commemoratives, too many specials. It's like pissing in the well, it just spoils the water.

I think many people got let down after the dismal performance of the Gothic Crown.
Also, after the surprise release of the Memorial coin range (including the Memorial Sovereign), the 2023 Annual Sets featuring the KC III effigy, the numerous existing ranges (British Monarchs, Tudor Beasts, etc.) which people have committed to, and the anticipated Coronation coins and Coronation Sovereign, people really have to think seriously about what the heck they can spend their money on.
Besides, the Petition Crown design, in and of itself, just isn’t as appealing as Una and the Lion, the Three Graces and the Gothic Crown were, at least from what I’m garnering from discussions I’m having with a bunch of people.
Sure the original coin has a nice story, but if you’re buying a replica, you’re probably buying it for its design.
I suppose it’s a bit like the Mona Lisa. The original has a nice story, but how many people find it beautiful enough to hang a framed poster up on their walls? 😚

@westminstrel Always a pleasure seeing you go to the effort to post this information  Looks like they can't make their mind up what they are going to mint.....by the looks of it, a £5 pound coronation coin, with it being cupro-nickel something thats likely to be an unlimited run similar to other coronation coins.......Just waiting to see if they do a coronation proof sovereign set.  
 

In the Gazette Proclamation for the British Monarchs - Charles I coin, there’s a strange description given for the cupro-nickel coin which doesn’t match the descriptions for the rest of the denominations.
It states:
For the obverse impression Our effigy with the inscription “· CHARLES III · D · G · REX · F · D · 5 POUNDS ·” and the date of the year;
For the reverse either:
(a) a depiction three lions passant guardant, being that quartering of Our Royal Arms known heraldically as England and the inscription “FIVE POUNDS”; or
(b) a depiction lion rampant within a double tressure flory counter-flory, being that quartering of Our Royal Arms known heraldically as Scotland and the inscription “FIVE POUNDS”; or
(c) a depiction of a dragon passant, being Our Badge for Wales and the inscription “FIVE POUNDS”; or
(d) a depiction of a celtic cross charged at the centre with an annulet therein a pimpernel flower and overall an ancient torque, symbolising that part of Our United Kingdom known as Northern Ireland and the inscription “FIVE POUNDS”; or
(e) a depiction of a lion, a unicorn, a stag and a dragon surrounding a crown accompanied by the inscription “FIVE POUNDS”.
 
Source: https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/4277741

These designs seem like something that would work for a Coronation themed range of coins. Thoughts?

Thank you @Paul, A little bit disappointed and I am not quite sure  if I will be in the party for this one, especially since it is again a 2 coins set so a big investment, probably £11k in these trouble times ahead... I still have some time to think about it. It will be a 2oz silver set anyway

@Frenchie next Great Engravers coin announced 

If the 5 and double are fine, and the quarter is "special", I would definitely keep the set and try to get a full and a half on the second market  if I want a perfect set. You could also try to exchange with someone else who has a bad set but a good full and half, and want to return it to the RM 
Anyway, you could be surprised to get a PF70 for your full sovereign if the defect is considered as a production flaw
 

If the 5 and double are fine, and the quarter is "special", I would definitely keep the set and try to get a full and a half on the second market  if I want a perfect set. You could also try to exchange with someone else who has a bad set but a good full and half, and want to return it to the RM 
Anyway, you could be surprised to get a PF70 for your full sovereign if the defect is considered as a production flaw
 

For information, for @Paul and all the lucky owners ,  a 2oz gold and a 2oz silver Una were auctionned  today at Sovereign Rarities. Both graded PF69 and sold respectively for £26000 and £1700 (+ 20% fees + VAT). The Una's market still holds up well and this is the great winner in the series and even in all the modern coins contestants ! 
https://auctions.sovr.co.uk/index.php?option=com_bidding&view=timed&layout=catalogue&id=18&tab=finished&current_page=5
If the  prices are nice,  It's worth mentionning the differences between a PF69 and PF70 with an amazing 67% premium added for the last gold Una PF70 auctionned in January  (66000$,  around £55000 fees included)
On the other side,  I don't understand why the 3G and GC do not really take off seing the sold price of the last auction for an original 3G above, 
  

For information, for @Paul and all the lucky owners ,  a 2oz gold and a 2oz silver Una were auctionned  today at Sovereign Rarities. Both graded PF69 and sold respectively for £26000 and £1700 (+ 20% fees + VAT). The Una's market still holds up well and this is the great winner in the series and even in all the modern coins contestants ! 
https://auctions.sovr.co.uk/index.php?option=com_bidding&view=timed&layout=catalogue&id=18&tab=finished&current_page=5
If the  prices are nice,  It's worth mentionning the differences between a PF69 and PF70 with an amazing 67% premium added for the last gold Una PF70 auctionned in January  (66000$,  around £55000 fees included)
On the other side,  I don't understand why the 3G and GC do not really take off seing the sold price of the last auction for an original 3G above, 
  

For information, for @Paul and all the lucky owners ,  a 2oz gold and a 2oz silver Una were auctionned  today at Sovereign Rarities. Both graded PF69 and sold respectively for £26000 and £1700 (+ 20% fees + VAT). The Una's market still holds up well and this is the great winner in the series and even in all the modern coins contestants ! 
https://auctions.sovr.co.uk/index.php?option=com_bidding&view=timed&layout=catalogue&id=18&tab=finished&current_page=5
If the  prices are nice,  It's worth mentionning the differences between a PF69 and PF70 with an amazing 67% premium added for the last gold Una PF70 auctionned in January  (66000$,  around £55000 fees included)
On the other side,  I don't understand why the 3G and GC do not really take off seing the sold price of the last auction for an original 3G above, 
  

Sorry to bore you…….another 5 coin set🤣

Thank you Dave, I am thinking about your services for conservation and grading. I'll PM you 

I've been fortunate, all look ok to me. Returning from none UK is more hassle:( just aim to get a perfect £5 others will find their levels. Perfect £5 or full refund 

You need to use my services @Frenchie  I receive coins for over seas customers for me to check it saves a lot of time if you get a dog of a coin. I can also do direct NGC submissions if you want them direct to grade.   
 

Absolutely stunning Paul, for my part, I have received a good four coins set, but an awful 5 coins set with 4 coins out of 5 in a bad condition...and returned to the RM of course. I just hope to get a replacement, (and a good replacement) but it seems to be a lotery !
Have you ordered the £5 BU ? I have mixed feelings with this one. The busy design is beautiful with the contrast of the fields in PF finish , but I am not sure with the matte finish...