MancunianStacker

They don't change the brit every year but they do a lot more regularly than the sovereign.  These last 2 years of the sovereign has changed to mark historic occasions and they just so happened to fall the way they have. The queen's 70th jubilee which sadly turned out to be her final year a few months later. And now the King's first year that will be marked with a special design. I'm sure 2024 will see the return of ol'george slaying the dragon.... and that will probably be an event of its own for the sovereign collector lol. 

I am sure I will get mine in a week or two as per usual 🤣
This is where I think it's been particularly brilliant of the RM! It's the first with Charles, but it's ostensibly a 'memorial' for QEII (I don't think they emphasised this enough) which completes the 'handover' perfectly (plus they get to release an extra sov, lol). It's also an absolutely glorious design! Everything's set for the 2023 (G&D I am expecting) and the Coronation SotD (though I think they may mess these up with a mintage of 1000+), at these same higher prices but no doubt a lower mintage for the Sovereign - they will want a return to 'hot hot hot!'.
They've tested the waters and rightfully so imo, given everyone a chance to buy (even if they did mess up the 'Sold Out' and marketing) and tested the limits of what they can/should aim for. Lessons will be learned, Charlie is not as popular as they'd guessed - next year (his official first) at a far lesser mintage (imo) may actually be the one to go for.

Yay !! Join the club.
Our past six Hours moan and groans here will pale into insignificance as dust settles and product slowly becomes less and unavailable 

Depends what we deem a winner, but in terms of desirability and importance yes, 100% its going to be desirable and important forever more. Its a superb design and the first sovereign of a new monarch and we shouldn’t let the madness of release days distract us from the bigger picture.
Its only in very recent years have any coins sold out in the first days / few hrs (since mid 2020) and that was due to the very weird and pumpy environment we were in. 1989, 2002, 2005, 2012, 2016 & 2017 and everything in between took days if not weeks (and probably months on the early ones). These will all be sold out soon enough if that is what some measure success by.
In terms of mintages these (the 5 and 2 anyway) are low for proof coronation / first of a monarch sovereign sets if you look at anything from Edward VII 1902 proof set onwards. Regardless of what comes, this set is as important as any sovereign set that marked a new monarch and also rarer than most, with the odd exception (1953 for example). Arguably for Sovereign collectors, particularly type collectors this is the most significant and important release in 85yrs, since George VI.
1902 5 coin proof set 8,000 ish sets
1911 5 coin proof set - 2,800 ish sets
1937 5 coin proof set - 5,001 sets
1953 5 coin proof set - 3 or 4 sets
2022 5 coin proof set (KCIII) - 1200 sets (less than 2000 2 Sovereigns in total)
as something to think about, even the 1839 Una has reported mintage of 400 and I doubt that fully accounts for the extra’s struck in the years following 1839.
i grade so I've picked up a few sets todays where I could, i’ll put a 5 coin 70 set together and then move the rest on, a  profit would be nice but not essential.
These are superb and i think once im hand collectors will be very reluctant to let them go.

Out of reactions for today.
Spent up so  can't afford to upgrade 

Aside from all things topical
Where's our forum favourite green eye monster Barry on release day for his comments
Hope he hasn't bought from an authorized dealer post launch 

Not at all 😂, 

Spot on mate. Now I’m wishing I bought more 4 coin sets😂😂

I think today has been a great success. 
I think measuring whether they sell out of 40000+ coins in one day and then saying its a damp squib or failure is not appropriate for the release. 
Remember, if the Royal Mint have sold on average 75% of their stock in the first day then the break down would be over £22 Million in sales.
That is NOT a bad day for any mint or coin dealer. IN A DAY!
Breakdown
1/4 = £690,000
1/2 = £1,125,000
Full = £12,162,000
BU = £2,900,000
Piedfort = £2,580,160
3 coin set = £1,680,000
4 coin set = £1,796,250
5 coin set = £6,714,000
Grand Total = £29,647,410
75% of Grand total: £22,235,558
As to where things will go in the future for us coinsters - who knows....
Hopefully I will be able to hold onto these amazing HISTORIC coins for a long time, enjoy them and then part with them at a time of my choosing that allows me to have made some money. 
If you are buying these just to make some extra cash you will probably fail. Some will flip and some will win. 
There is more to life than cash in the bank. 
Are you sorry you asked?
 

Always buy the coins you like and you cannot go wrong. The design on this coin is amazing to say the least. One of the most beautiful sovereigns out there designed by the legendary engraver Jody Clark who made the Britannia 2014, the Queens last effigy and the Queens Beasts and Completer coin! People who will miss out and future collectors are going to be looking  for these coins. Mintage numbers are higher than before but not the highest of special reverses. This was not advertised well, actually really badly as they sent an email 1 week before release and that was it. Higher mintages and higher prices all contribute to slow sale, HOWEVER, i must say that all sets were sold out by lunch time and then in the afternoon RM decided to add more (even though they actually wrote “sold out”).
These coins are a part of history, a wonderful design and the first sovereign of the new King. I have no doubt in my mind that these will appreciate very well in the long run. I am glad i could buy the 5-coin set as this design will be a stunner and i am sure will be one of my favourites. 

Definitely, especially the Piedfort (being selfish, but I do think it's the dark horse after the erratic but mostly significant Lizzie releases, and likely to be slashed/omitted after 2023)!
Absolutely, and I actually think the RM has been very clever here and it's going to be a win-win for all given time.
Sure, they messed up the 'sold out'. I don't buy that this was deliberate to let them trickle through, I don't think they're that clever, considerate of customers (!) in different timezones, I just think they were a bit too cautious (for once) and some of their marquee customers (the seriously wealthy who only want 'the thing no-one else can get') withdrew. Or, most likely, Dave from the pub who they got in to redo their website just screwed up.

Yes and it's tarnishing my enjoyment of the DVDs from one of my favourite childhood shows
Can't we call them Lassies or even (for the younger generation) Teletubbies?
I am guessing Mr Noseybonks may be too obscure (?)

Safe to say tsf account for 10% of sales today in the memorial sov range 

There'll be no shortage of long term losing  c**p and rubbish released next year I've no doubt.  
Stay tuned here on TSF for your free investment advice and guidance  
 
For the good stuff 

Yes I was just reading about the Russian missile landing in Poland 🤔 this news probably caused a gold spike this evening 

I was going to buy 1 full sovereign and the 4 box set...
Ended up with 
2 × 4 box set 
1 × 3 box set 
2 × full sovereigns 
1× half sovereign 
Tempted for the 5 box ...but wife will go mad lol

Whats with all the?
 

My plan was to have a look but instead I bought:
2 x 3 coin sets
2 x 1 Sovereigns
2 x half sovereigns. 
Still might add a bigger set but have been on the edge

I'll tell you in 12 weeks if I haven't returned them or cancelled lol 

Might be still too early to tell whether this release will prove to be a winner or a flop, but as a relative newcomer, one thing I would query is how has the PR/communications campaign for this release been handled compared to previous releases?
As someone who works in mar/comms I was surprised about the relatively short lead-time from announcement and the fairly sparse promotion on social media channels. This could be pretty standard so perhaps I'm wide of the mark as I have no professional experience in the marketing of numismatics / RM collectibles.
For me, the marketing - whilst clearly reaching its core audience (i.e. TSF) - does seem very low key. 

Four coin sets all melted down  now sold out 👍

@Griffoyou're gonna run out of likes ! 

Wasn't it Rothschild who said buy when there's blood in the streets ? 
 Once we are on UBI, don't have to work and everyone gets a free rainbow coloured unicorn to travel about 🦄🦄🦄
We can all afford one of everything  ! 

Why bother trying to sell the sovereign on there,when there's still thousands left on the site cheaper 😋