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2 hours ago, magpie79 said:

That’s mad pricing, but what a coin! 

do you think the rich are starting to buy coins for a tax break? Or do you think the petition sold for a fair price ? 

 they buy paintings that look like a 3 year painted it for millions for tax breaks 

this just sold for 15 milllion dollars! 

Coins for tax breaks, maybe, but certainly also enjoyment. Arts and arts are different. A Monet or a Rembrandt will be worth it as long as you could afford them, the poet-mordernist bland paper or balloon sculptures aren't . Even coins are different though. A Polish 100 ducat for £10m is worth every penny, but I see the flowing hair dollars or some Cali private tokens with contempt.

3 hours ago, Paul said:

In case anyone didn't notice the Heritage platinum auction in New York earlier in the month 

An original Petition Crown sold for $960,000 !

https://coins.ha.com/itm/great-britain/great-britain-charles-ii-silver-pattern-petition-crown-1663-ms62-ngc-/a/3113-31155.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515

  

 

On the same "Great Engravers" theme there was a PF67 original Gothic Crown go for $168,000

https://coins.ha.com/itm/great-britain/great-britain-victoria-proof-gothic-crown-1847-pr67-cameo-pcgs-/a/3113-31173.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515

 

and an original "Three Graces" crown for for $210,000

https://coins.ha.com/itm/great-britain/great-britain-george-iii-silver-proof-pattern-three-graces-crown-1817-pr63-cameo-ngc-/a/3113-31166.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515

 

 

To think what some of these could have been bought for 20-30 years back compared to day 

Remember, the latter two have gold versions that will fetch far more!

Don't think they are of any significance. However, if they come at roughly the same price then why not?

Any obverse uniface?

5 minutes ago, Agaupl said:

That’s certainly a great design 🤣 how times change 

Didn't pass even then for fears of frustrating the provokative losers. It never changed

13 minutes ago, Agaupl said:

Yes I’ve never bought medals before and know pretty much nothing. These should have recipient names. And the more interesting the story/ regiment the more expensive. It’s this whole mess I was hoping to research more to find out the details. 

I was looking for a Wyon's rejected China medal, then I realised I couldn't afford it.

https://www.coinworld.com/news/world-coins/rejected-medal-design-depicting-dragon-soars-in-sale.html

8 hours ago, Agaupl said:

They were definetly produced. Everything I’ve seen says there were around 39,000 and awarded in 1816-17.  

I’ve seen prices go from £1000 up depending on condition and regiment. lots of replicas too. This one sold at Spinks for £3500. 

Ah sorry I thought you meant the BP one. Pricing for medals are a hot mess. This medal you showed would get Details grade from NGC for being mounted. On the other hand, I've seen PCGS slabbing the ribbon with the medal and grading both.

Also medals have regiment names, sometimes receipient names, too. That may add to prices...

6 hours ago, Chronos said:

https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/gangs-corruption-and-collapse-the-slow-and-steady-demise-of-south-africa-a-7ed1fcd1-a2e8-446a-9ff9-074718215281

I was being very sarcastic

7 hours ago, jason94151 said:

since I live in the USA I gotta pay cgt on gold or silver no matter what so I'm just looking to get myself some coronation bullion to hold for years but not sure what to get. I think the 10oz silver royal Celebration bar design look cool but idk if it will tarnish if I leave it inside the vyinal packaging. The britannia and Cypher coins is nice to collect but the amount of milkspot I had from when I bought the 2023 (queen elizabeth) britannia. I don't know if there still the same issue with the Coronation Cypher and britannia.

Gold doesn't milk so coronation Brit/cypher are quite good. Of the two my personal preference is the Brit though

13 minutes ago, jultorsk said:

Yes, and look how well it's going for SA now - Julius Malema probably gets awarded the next Nobel Peace Prize. 

 

Hey! They're doing very well now. They're a sitting member of the UN Human Rights Council (with some other well-done countries)

https://www.ohchr.org/en/hr-bodies/hrc/membership

Also see how they sort Australia, Canada and USA as "West Europe & others" and list other countries as "Latin America & Carribeans" or "Asia Pacific". They just really can't find excuses to place Japan in "Western Europe" as well.

10 minutes ago, bobski said:

We tend to say "something happened in the nineties", to describe the start of the planned downfall and decimation 

That roughly translates to "a rare occurrence of an elected Labour majority"

It's quite surprising there has only been 3 elected Labour PMs, although we seem to be on course to have the 4th who professes to be reminiscent of the last. God help us.

8 minutes ago, silversky said:

Gold could go down.  Buy the rumour, sell the news etc...  These cartoon villains are hardly going to cause world war three, and their flag is absolutely hilarious.  This type of military action is exactly the kind which America can actually win easily.  Get the popcorn out, and enjoy the show.

Oh, and by the way, the flag reads, "God is greatest, Death to America, Death to Israel, Curse the Jews, Victory to Islam".    What a bunch of clowns

Thought the flags read "fairness and equality for all"

Never mind

19 minutes ago, Wilburwombat said:

I was surprised by how much I liked the Coronation Cypher coin, just a nice crisp & clean design. Plus get Charles in his fancy hat.

I wish they will do a laureate head in the future though. The crown on the 2023 coins is too cartoon-like. I personally don't like the combination of heraldic representation and realistic portrait. 

1 hour ago, Richard82 said:

A lot of country are turning away from Israel. The more that join the quicker it falls. 

Israel survives because its suits America, but once it doesn't that's it, and that coming soon. 

Israel still suits America and the West until the last soviet influence on ME fades away. It's not fading away, however. Decolonisation is a monster America unleashed themselves, but the numerous pan-Arabic movements, Islamic Revoluition ideologies, were a creation of USSR, outlast USSR, and is now taken over by China etc.

However, there's a difference between "suits America" and "supported by America". America has made numerous diplomatic errors in the 20th century, the biggest of which was giving China away so they were taken over by the socialists. It was also a huge mistake not to stand with the Pahlavis.

1 hour ago, Richard82 said:

Putin didn't go to Africa because of the warrants. They only said they wouldn't arrest him.

Putin is as much a war criminal as Bush and Blair.

Yes that's what I mean by ignoring the warrants. 

And we need Israel more than Israel needs us. So we'd better hope America sticks with their support. Iran, Hezbollah, Houthis, etc won't suddenly become friendly to us if we drop our support for Israel. They'll look at the Mediterranean next.

Edit: re Blair war might be the least of his crimes. His sysmatic butchering of British tradition and national identity is only the more appaling. He was not alone in believing something had to change for the new millennium, and things did change though for the worse. I wanted to call this millennialism, but found it was already used for a certain Christian denomination. I'd like to call this neo-millennialism. And it seems to get worse by the day. 

47 minutes ago, VGfine said:

It looks like Yemen rebels are about to feel the might of US firepower, what do with think this will do to the gold price?

Not much. But good news for LMT, RTX, BA, BAE etc

Wait not BA, not that one 

Just now, Richard82 said:

I have a TV but I can't get a signal. I mirror off my phone but nothing that requires a TV license. 

You can watch catch up just not the iplayer or live television, which I don't. 

Nothing worth watching and I don't miss at all. Plus a can't fund pedophiles. 

BBC made some good series in the past. But those aren't in the licence fee domain. There were some good culture products but most went down with culture itself.

5 minutes ago, Jake0111 said:

I only fetched it up to show how morally bankrupt they are. 

"But we need an unbiased national broadcaster to educate the people!"

"Do you rather see the ADs?"

Just now, Jake0111 said:

Not long a go a woman with down syndrome got a criminal conviction for not paying her tv licence. Even though she had no financial control of her money, the direct debit had stopped and just needed resetting up. 

But that's not a case of admissible/inadmissible evidence and cannot be referred to in the situation I mentioned.

License fee is an absurd idea through and through. But I can see it has a lot of proponents outside of this echo chamber of our own. 

22 minutes ago, Richard82 said:

I've waited in on the days they said they were coming but they don't turn up.

They can take me to court if they think they have evidence I've been watching TV. 

They need to catch you watching TV to do anything.

Not sure if they could camp outside of your house and film you 24/7 to produce any admissible evidence in court. It'll depend on previous cases which are unheard of.

Of course, there is absolutely nothing they can do if you don't even have a TV. The BBC robbery also applies to online streaming services, but they've made sure their programmes are unwatchable enough that no one would venture into their online fantasy land. Those who do would have willingly paid for the licence anyway.

50 minutes ago, Paul said:

If youre not buying at highs you're not doing it right. I speak from experience

the weird thing is even at ATHs in prices

I've picked up some lovely heavy gold bits the past year at much lower prices than when COVID bounce back furlough funny money was floating around society and spot was a lot lower.

When folk NEED to sell and can't find a buyer there are bargains to be had if you have the fiat and courage of your convictions it will work out well in the years to come. IE Those holding memorial five sov proofs in pf70 will be well rewarded next decade I've no doubt of

I don't read charts, price predictions, etc

I just buy to live like my profile pic (still a long way to go)

2 minutes ago, treetop1280 said:

If you ever have problems with eBay . Go to the automated chat , and insist they call you , you will be put to call centre abroad somewhere  ( they will call you in a couple of minutes ) ask / demand  to be put through to the call Center in IRELAND,  , it’s a ball acke, but worth doing , they will be more helpful ,  👍

Selling copy coins is illegal as @Orpster said above. One wonders if this could be a matter for the police...

13 minutes ago, Roy said:

But remember,  it's not the price of gold that has risen, it's that your fiat has become worth less!

Aren't you glad to get rid of 400 bits of worthless paper for something that actually has value?

Buy, buy, buy 😊👍

Especially during dips like this

Especially with some magnanimous TSF members racking up at ATH and selling at dips

1 minute ago, GoldDiggerDave said:

Absolutely I'm a huge fan of the 1902 matt proof set it would be a nice way to present the set in a multi holder.  

So am I. But they all grade rather low. And I think for a reason, too. Their matt surface seems finer than the American matts of the same period and modern matts like the sotd, and a simple rinse with water or rubbing with velvet (in which they were all housed) could strip them of the original surface.

3 minutes ago, Spyder said:

Yes I know it is not ebay, but they are the same

Yes, look at these chavs with their brood. Can imagine how those kids will behave as adults. 

My neighbour used work in this restaurant and that is a big hit for a small place.  I hope they get banned from everywhere in town.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/cops-probe-group-who-left-31842150

More horror story: these chavs' votes count just as yours

2 hours ago, GoldDiggerDave said:

I like these, you can get Multi coin slabs, only a few sets they will grade like this and the problematic thing with grading a full set is if someone wants a full top  grade set and if one coin out of the batch is not up to grade then it could be difficult, plus it makes it impossible to split.   

I'm trying to get a silver multi slab set for my collection 

 

Could work nicely for the old sovereign sets. 1887, 1893, 1902, etc

Also you could send a set of graded PF70 and ask them to re-holder