anyone seen a fake new style gold brit yet?

[shinobi]

HI anybody seen or heard of fakes yet ?, with the new style gold brit coins , that come with the new security features like the padlock trident , DECUS ET TUTAMEN text , waves etc. Im wondering if a simple size and weight check is enough to confirm its real  due to these features alone, or is a sigma etc still needed at the point of sale ideally, thanks

[James32]

8 hours ago, shinobi said:

HI anybody seen or heard of fakes yet ?, with the new style gold brit coins , that come with the new security features like the padlock trident , DECUS ET TUTAMEN text , waves etc. Im wondering if a simple size and weight check is enough to confirm its real  due to these features alone, or is a sigma etc still needed at the point of sale ideally, thanks

Haven't seen any personally, that's not to say they don't exist though. 

Magnet check 

Weight check 

Diameter and thickness check with digital calipers ( you will get the coins approx specs from bullionbypost.co.uk)

Ping test

Most important is to buy from reputable sources 

If you are still iffy you can do a specific gravity test.

Basically for a fake coin to weigh the same as geniune britannia, it will be either bigger in Diameter or thicker. Only tungsten can mimic gold but that's slightly Magnetic. 

If you pass all the above tests then your likely golden. 

Edited July 16, 2023 by James32

[shinobi]

its the tungsten coins that worry me they seem to have the same weight and size?, on other coins i think it was maple leaf the sizes seem exact, one guy on you tube said its the ping test that he found one with, im guessing the magnet test is not perfect with tungsten?

[AaaGee]

Just buy off here or the main bullion dealers and youll be fine.

Any problem sellers on here usually get jumped on by other forum members pretty quickly so what you buy on here will be legit 

[James32]

5 minutes ago, shinobi said:

its the tungsten coins that worry me they seem to have the same weight and size?, on other coins i think it was maple leaf the sizes seem exact, one guy on you tube said its the ping test that he found one with, im guessing the magnet test is not perfect with tungsten?

Your main objective should be to buy from reputable sources, dealers or established members on here. Your in effect buying their expertise too.

The tungsten coins are starting off as real coins,then are being drilled out and the innards will have a tungsten disc inside. Seen a few on YouTube/America but never here. 

[dicker]

Sorry and to answer your question properly.  If you are taking about the Brits with the Security feature introduced 2 or 3 years - no.

I have seen on eBay 1 reasonable counterfeit. Lots on aliexpress, laughable really (see the pic)

 

[Petra]

Never looked on Ali express, however I assume that this is where a lot of scammers buy stuff? However, like the one above, don’t know why anyone would make one as bad as that and why anyone would bother buying one?🤔😮

[dicker]

Binlords buy from sites like AliExpress then list on eBay with blurry pics etc.

The above is horrendous and pounds is spelled with a double P

Edited July 16, 2023 by dicker

[ArgentSmith]

21 minutes ago, dicker said:

The above is horrendous and pounds is spelled with a double P

"PPUNDS" ...  🤣

 

[GoldDiggerDave]

Can’t understand anyone stressing about fakes, just buy them from 100%  genuine dealers and you will have 0% issues.

PROBLEM SOLVED! 

 

 

[dicker]

10 minutes ago, GoldDiggerDave said:

Can’t understand anyone stressing about fakes, just buy them from 100%  genuine dealers and you will have 0% issues.

PROBLEM SOLVED! 

 

 

Completely agree.  If you are new and have zero idea of counterfeit from genuine just buy from a dealer.  They cannot afford to rip you off.  

[Jake0111]

1 hour ago, Petra said:

Never looked on Ali express, however I assume that this is where a lot of scammers buy stuff? However, like the one above, don’t know why anyone would make one as bad as that and why anyone would bother buying one?🤔😮

Probably use that to get people's email address and then send emails with the better ones 

Edited July 16, 2023 by Jake0111

[Bratnia]

4 hours ago, dicker said:

Sorry and to answer your question properly.  If you are taking about the Brits with the Security feature introduced 2 or 3 years - no.

I have seen on eBay 1 reasonable counterfeit. Lots on aliexpress, laughable really (see the pic)

 

I think it was decent of the manufacturer of the "souvenir gold plated coin" to pretty clearly stamp it with a "this isn't real".

[JohnA1]

come on, it says PPUNDS

They are not trying to fool anyone, this is a novelty item