Please help

[theman73]

Hi

Anyone can identify this?

 

 

 

 

Edited February 12, 2023 by theman73

[James32]

If @richatthecroft can't.. nobody can 🤣

[Petra]

What does the lettering say?

[theman73]

1 minute ago, Petra said:

What does the lettering say?

No idea, one of my friends who is metal detectorist found it today

[Dakaras]

It's Elizabeth 1st penny...needs some scale to be sure 

[Dakaras]

Just off to work but I'll try take a look at break on big screen 

[Zhorro]

12 minutes ago, Dakaras said:

It's Elizabeth 1st penny...needs some scale to be sure 

I think it is a half groat (i.e. 2d) as signified by the two dots to the right of the head.  A very nice find.

[richatthecroft]

51 minutes ago, Dakaras said:

It's Elizabeth 1st penny...needs some scale to be sure 

It’s definitely Elizabeth I, not sure of the denomination without the weight/ diameter. 

[theman73]

32 minutes ago, richatthecroft said:

It’s definitely Elizabeth I, not sure of the denomination without the weight/ diameter. 

 

 

''I think it is a half groat (i.e. 2d) as signified by the two dots to the right of the head''

[Petra]

Looks like a half groat

[theman73]

Any valuation?

[richatthecroft]

I don’t believe an Elizabeth I Half Groat has any ‘dots’ that signify the denomination- I think it’s best to weigh it and measure the diameter of the coin to determine what it is.  

[richatthecroft]

@theman73 sharper photos would also help- it looks like there’s a mint mark at about 1 O’Clock- but it’s not very clear- this mark will narrow the age of the coin down to its years of issue- poor photo, but it might be 94- Martlet- Second Issue 1573- 1578. 
 

[theman73]

9 minutes ago, richatthecroft said:

@theman73 sharper photos would also help- it looks like there’s a mint mark at about 1 O’Clock- but it’s not very clear- this mark will narrow the age of the coin down to its years of issue- poor photo, but it might be 94- Martlet- Second Issue 1573- 1578. 
 

 

I will meet him tomorrow and make better pictures

Thank you

[LawrenceChard]

3 hours ago, theman73 said:

Hi

Anyone can identify this?

 

 

 

 

 

3 hours ago, Dakaras said:

It's Elizabeth 1st penny...needs some scale to be sure 

 

3 hours ago, Zhorro said:

I think it is a half groat (i.e. 2d) as signified by the two dots to the right of the head.  A very nice find.

 

2 hours ago, richatthecroft said:

It’s definitely Elizabeth I, not sure of the denomination without the weight/ diameter. 

 

1 hour ago, richatthecroft said:

I don’t believe an Elizabeth I Half Groat has any ‘dots’ that signify the denomination- I think it’s best to weigh it and measure the diameter of the coin to determine what it is.  

 

1 hour ago, theman73 said:

 

I will meet him tomorrow and make better pictures

Thank you

Always try to give all the information you already have when asking.

Include:

Weight

Size

Clear photos

😎

[LawrenceChard]

3 hours ago, Petra said:

What does the lettering say?

 

3 hours ago, theman73 said:

No idea, one of my friends who is metal detectorist found it today

I can make out some of the lettering, and I am sure you could if you tried.

It is easier with the actual coin because it is easier to turn round rather than a 4G monitor.

😎

Edited February 12, 2023 by LawrenceChard

[theman73]

1 minute ago, LawrenceChard said:

 

I can make out some of the lettering, and I am sure you could if you tried.

It is easier with the actual coin because it is easier to trun round rather than a 4G monitor.

😎

I will, tomorrow

[LawrenceChard]

3 hours ago, Zhorro said:

I think it is a half groat (i.e. 2d) as signified by the two dots to the right of the head.  A very nice find.

 

2 hours ago, theman73 said:

 

 

''I think it is a half groat (i.e. 2d) as signified by the two dots to the right of the head''

 

1 hour ago, richatthecroft said:

I don’t believe an Elizabeth I Half Groat has any ‘dots’ that signify the denomination- I think it’s best to weigh it and measure the diameter of the coin to determine what it is.  

S 2579,

or S 2586?

😎

 

[Petra]

11 minutes ago, LawrenceChard said:

 

I can make out some of the lettering, and I am sure you could if you tried.

It is easier with the actual coin because it is easier to turn round rather than a 4G monitor.

😎

I’ll pm you with my address and you can send me your glasses as mine obviously aren’t good enough!🤔😮😀

[theman73]

30 minutes ago, LawrenceChard said:

S 2579,

or S 2586?

Now it's become a real enigma for me

Help

[richatthecroft]

1 hour ago, LawrenceChard said:

 

 

S 2579,

or S 2586?

😎

 

Thanks @LawrenceChard.    Ah, so either the 6th or 7th issue, clearly with the two Pellets.

It would pay me to read rather than just looking at coin plates 🙄 

[Dakaras]

1 hour ago, theman73 said:

Now it's become a real enigma for me

Help

S2579 is the reference number in the Spink book

[LawrenceChard]

11 hours ago, theman73 said:

Now it's become a real enigma for me

Help

I can recommend a machine for that...

... or variation!

😎

[theman73]

[richatthecroft]

9 minutes ago, theman73 said:

As others identified as a Halfgroat, and @LawrenceChard narrowed down to two possible- the mint mark identifies it as Spink 2579.

This from the 2023 Spink catalogue: