Sovereign experts question

[fiveshotdon]

Do gillick head sovereigns have colour variances? I have only seen them with a copper like tone but I have come across one that is more similar in colour to older Edward VII. I can easily pick the sovereign by eye out when next to the others.

 

[HerefordBullyun]

@LawrenceChard is probably your man

[sovereignsteve]

8 minutes ago, fiveshotdon said:

Do gillick head sovereigns have colour variances? I have only seen them with a copper like tone but I have come across one that is more similar in colour to older Edward VII. I can easily pick the sovereign by eye out when next to the others.

 

Yes there have been one or two noticed by various people that haven't been shown to be fake. Until these have been fully tested, we can't be sure.

[LawrenceChard]

7 minutes ago, fiveshotdon said:

Do gillick head sovereigns have colour variances? I have only seen them with a copper like tone but I have come across one that is more similar in colour to older Edward VII. I can easily pick the sovereign by eye out when next to the others.

 

 

1 minute ago, HerefordBullyun said:

@LawrenceChard is probably your man

Sure, the 1957 fake ones sold by St. James Auctions are more yellow.

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I think Gillicks are not as red as recent years, but I do not know why, and I have not actually tried to do an objective side-by-side comparison.

If some have traces of silver, this may affect the colour, even at below 1 ppt, but more study needed.

I keep trying to retire, but keep finding more projects!

 

[sovereignsteve]

5 minutes ago, LawrenceChard said:

think Gillicks are not as red as recent years,

I think that is true in general but there are some definitely quite red.

[fiveshotdon]

26 minutes ago, sovereignsteve said:

Yes there have been one or two noticed by various people that haven't been shown to be fake. Until these have been fully tested, we can't be sure.

This one came from HGM so I assume it was tested. It is on weight and nothing else looks amiss other than the colour being out of the ordinary.

[sovereignsteve]

2 minutes ago, fiveshotdon said:

This one came from HGM so I assume it was tested. It is on weight and nothing else looks amiss other than the colour being out of the ordinary.

They say they test them by XRF and I have no reason to question this. No idea what their acceptable limits are but if the weight and size are spot on, should be genuine.

[LawrenceChard]

35 minutes ago, sovereignsteve said:

I think that is true in general but there are some definitely quite red.

... and I thought it was my eyes!

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[Dankanugget]

I have two gillicks and their colour differs slightly.

dan

[Dankanugget]

Posted pictures Feb 8th

[Allgoldcoins]

You can see all 10 dates together here :

[Foster88]

1 minute ago, Allgoldcoins said:

You can see all 10 dates together here :

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[Foster88]

2 hours ago, LawrenceChard said:

I keep trying to retire, but keep finding more projects!

 

Do numistmatists ever really retire? 🤔

If you do decide to, there’s a book for that, although you probably know much more than what’s in this book.

[LawrenceChard]

27 minutes ago, Foster88 said:

Do numistmatists ever really retire? 🤔

If you do decide to, there’s a book for that, although you probably know much more than what’s in this book.

I'm not gonna start on American stuff!