1917 Gold Sovereign London Mint.

[CollectorNo1]

6 minutes ago, Bruce06 said:

Any idea why the color look bit weird? Heavy clean or just photo lighting?

Weird in what way???

[Bruce06]

For those high relief, color seems a bit too orange in my phone.  Don't know if it is down to my phone or photo shooting lighting.

[LawrenceChard]

On 12/10/2021 at 22:02, LawrenceChard said:

Might as well post a screenshot, for posterity:

The obverse photo looks more revealing:

Some of the gold plating has worn off, and it does look very coppery, almost as red as a 2021.

In that condition with mediocre photos, it is difficult to be sure about anything.

It may be 91.66% though...

91.66% certain fake, that is.

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I think I would rather have a Chinese copy.

I just looked againe at the ebay listing.

It did not sell (0 bids), which is no surprise, but...

The ebay "seller"  rowlancleave_0 did list it previously at a starting price of £800, and he has now relisted it as £720.

Eternal optimist!

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[dicker]

I saw this post it being sold and nearly fell off my chair at the price…..

Bargain of the decade if it was sold for this money and was not a doctored coin.

https://atkinsonsbullion.com/gold/gold-coins/sovereign-gold-coins-(1)/pre-owned-1917-george-v-full-gold-sovereign

[CollectorNo1]

6 minutes ago, dicker said:

I saw this post it being sold and nearly fell off my chair at the price…..

Bargain of the decade if it was sold for this money and was not a doctored coin.

https://atkinsonsbullion.com/gold/gold-coins/sovereign-gold-coins-(1)/pre-owned-1917-george-v-full-gold-sovereign

No way!!!!!!! Its got to be a mistake surely??????😳😳😳😲😲😲😲😲

[dicker]

Not going to comment more than I have above, but I purchased US Coin some while ago and the coin went out of stock and the price was frozen….

There are interesting Sovereigns out there and some deals, this may or not have been one of them.

There is a Sov on eBay that I think is overpriced but is a good MS grade and has an die number error that has not been picked up by the vendor or the grading agencies.  It is possible to find interesting coins.

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Dicker

Edited October 23, 2021 by dicker
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[CollectorNo1]

12 minutes ago, dicker said:

Not going to comment more than I have above, but I purchased US Coin some while ago and the coin went out of stock and the price was frozen….

There are interesting Sovereigns out there and some deals, this may or not have been one of them.

There is a Sov on eBay that I think is overpriced but is a good MS grade and has an die number error that has not been picked up by the vendor or the grading agencies.  It is possible to find interesting coins.

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Dicker

Bbp have this coin at around £10,000 out of stock of course....either someone has got the deal of the century but I just cannot believe Atkinsons would make such a mega mistake?? Something isnt right...or is it April 1st??

[dicker]

Anyone on the forum purchase this one?
 

[dicker]

I suspect that a few people have tried to delete a P, M or S to pass the 1917 off as a London mint version. That’s not easy or I suspect all that convincing   

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Dicker

[Booky586]

1 hour ago, dicker said:

I suspect that a few people have tried to delete a P, M or S to pass the 1917 off as a London mint version.

Yes, seems like the obvious thing to do if you've got the right skills and I imagine it's been tried. I wonder if it's been done successfully?

2 hours ago, dicker said:

I saw this post it being sold and nearly fell off my chair at the price…..

Bargain of the decade if it was sold for this money and was not a doctored coin.

https://atkinsonsbullion.com/gold/gold-coins/sovereign-gold-coins-(1)/pre-owned-1917-george-v-full-gold-sovereign

The photos for this coin are of a Sydney mint sovereign, perhaps it was just a genuine mistake with the description. The London 1917 sold by TCC this month went for £18,500,  a little more than the Atkinson version for £342.62 😀

Edited October 23, 2021 by Booky586

[dicker]

I can’t see the S, but will take your word for for.

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Dicker

[CollectorNo1]

17 minutes ago, Booky586 said:

Yes, seems like the obvious thing to do if you've got the right skills and I imagine it's been tried. I wonder if it's been done successfully?

The photos for this coin are of a Sydney mint sovereign, perhaps it was just a genuine mistake with the description. The London 1917 sold by TCC this month went for £18,500,  a little more than the Atkinson version for £342.62 😀

How do you know its a Sydney..I'm very curious. 

Regards.

[Booky586]

4 minutes ago, CollectorNo1 said:

How do you know its a Sydney..I'm very curious. 

Regards.

Here's the image, courtesy of Atkinsons. Looks like an S in the ground over the date to me, although admittedly the photo is low resolution and it's not strikingly obvious.

[Booky586]

38 minutes ago, dicker said:

I can’t see the S, but will take your word for for.

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Dicker

 

22 minutes ago, CollectorNo1 said:

How do you know its a Sydney..I'm very curious. 

Regards.

Excuse me gents but I think you're right and it is a 1917 London, please accept my apologies. I've just shrunk an image of my own 1917S down to the same resolution and put mine above the Atkinsons coin, just for comparison.

 

 

[dicker]

Curious isn’t it?   I did the same and thought on balance it was London.  
 

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Dicker

[Roy]

Well, I hope it was a 'S' 'cos I'd be gutted if it were a London sov! Would complete my 1917 collection.

Chaps, Chris @SVcollector lists a 1917 London graded as one of his stolen coins. Do you think it's possible that this coin could've been bust out the slab and sold as bullion to Atkinsons?

Surely, the staff would know what they were looking at?

Just fantasy, but a possible lead in a case that seems to have gone cold?

1917 George V London MS62 cert 35779561

Edited October 23, 2021 by Roy

[CollectorNo1]

5 minutes ago, dicker said:

Curious isn’t it?   I did the same and thought on balance it was London.  
 

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Dicker

Couldn't have been a London Mint for Atkinsins price..I'm very concerned that they have sold this as a London Mint 1917..that's alarming for such a reputable dealer...(who can you trust????) 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[dicker]

Not my circus, not my monkeys.  

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Dicker

[jultorsk]

[pricha]

11 minutes ago, Roy said:

Well, I hope it was a 'S' 'cos I'd be gutted if it were a London sov! Would complete my 1917 collection.

Chaps, Chris @SVcollector lists a 1917 London graded as one of his stolen coins. Do you think it's possible that this coin could've been bust out the slab and sold as bullion to Atkinsons?

Surely, the staff would know what they were looking at?

Just fantasy, but a possible lead in a case that seems to have gone cold?

1917 George V London MS62 cert 35779561

Not in a million years would Atkinson's sell a London mint at that price.  But it is odd they didn't list the mint , as all their other coins they do.

[dicker]

It is explicitly listed as London, with a picture to match as far as I can see.

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Dicker

[dicker]

[Roy]

Indeed, the listing is clear.

Usual library photo though!

'This photograph shows the type of coin you will receive, not the exact item.'

[jultorsk]

Well someone was quick to take a punt - out of stock now. Best of luck to the buyer! 😉

[CollectorNo1]

11 minutes ago, jultorsk said:

Well someone was quick to take a punt - out of stock now. Best of luck to the buyer! 😉

Deffo something dodgy going on here..I would like Atkinsons to comment on this sale?