What safe should i buy?

[theylivewesleep27]

I'm looking to buy a decent safe. Anyone have any recomendations?

 

Thanks

[Robda1986]

You've got basically 2 options either a sneaky safe ie socket safes ect or go full boar safes, sneaky safes are good for concealment but lack physical security, and full boar safes lack concealment but give better physical security other than that get a po box and have all your pm's sent there then just move them to your storage place as and when 

[BackyardBullion]

I would personally go for any safe that is NOT on YouTube being opened very quickly or showing people how to open it 🙂 

 

[Rll1288]

1 minute ago, BackyardBullion said:

I would personally go for any safe that is NOT on YouTube being opened very quickly or showing people how to open it 🙂 

 

If the wife can't get into it ... its a good safe by my standards 🙂

[theylivewesleep27]

5 minutes ago, BackyardBullion said:

I would personally go for any safe that is NOT on YouTube being opened very quickly or showing people how to open it 🙂 

 

That's weird. I was just watching your video about security and then you replied to me on here as soon as the video was over aha

I want a really secure heavy duty safe and i am going to hide it very well.

 

[Ranger2girls]

i got a couple of the older  Phoenix Centurion  series there ideal for coins small about 1ft x1ft  weight around 50kg  and cost around 50 quid secondhand  i got tumbler combination and key quality for little money there 10 0r 20 years old i guess but there often for sale 

[theylivewesleep27]

Okay i was just about to spend £1700 on a safe and then saw a youtube video of a dude opening it in 5 seconds with a magnet.

 

[Ranger2girls]

1 minute ago, theylivewesleep27 said:

Okay i was just about to spend £1700 on a safe and then saw a youtube video of a dude opening it in 5 seconds with a magnet.

 

lmao thats scary but to be honest some of the older safes are just fine and remember the average criminal isnt a safe cracker and if the safe is  weighty and going to take more than 10 minutes for them to faf around with they wont bother  (buy a cheap ps4 and some games dump it on top the safe they will nick that and clear off lol

[BackyardBullion]

19 minutes ago, theylivewesleep27 said:

Okay i was just about to spend £1700 on a safe and then saw a youtube video of a dude opening it in 5 seconds with a magnet.

 

Sounds like a safe to avoid 😉

[theylivewesleep27]

Just now, BackyardBullion said:

Sounds like a safe to avoid 😉

The scary thing is i had just spent over an hour looking at reviews on the safe and it seemed to be a good one. I guess not.

[TringSilver]

26 minutes ago, theylivewesleep27 said:

Okay i was just about to spend £1700 on a safe and then saw a youtube video of a dude opening it in 5 seconds with a magnet.

 

Personally I wouldn't spend that much, at the end of the day they are just a metal box with concrete in. I would buy one local off eBay or from an auction and then the key factors for me would be, the correct insurance rating and the fixings. They need to be fixed properly, IE with the correct structural fixing bolts into concrete, these are about £25 each. I deal with this at work and if not fixed properly they can be crowbarred off the floor and onto a sack barrow. 

Also it's probably worth considering that the weakest part of any safe will be the owner, if someone's got a knife to a loved ones throat we'd all soon be telling them where the key is or what the code is. Perhaps better to just have the stuff hidden somewhere in a locked box. That way you can't tell someone answers to questions they aren't asking if they've not seen a big shiny safe. Just my 2p

[Nugget]

Take a look at the Brattonsound safes. They are decent and police approved for firearms / shotguns, etc.  You can get some designed to hold pistols / ammunition which could be useful for storing gold and treasure in general.

[Ranger2girls]

these are what i have there always for sale around 50 to 80 quid mark https://www.safe.co.uk/products/phoenix-centurion-1223.html

[GoodAsGold]

10 hours ago, Ranger2girls said:

lmao thats scary but to be honest some of the older safes are just fine and remember the average criminal isnt a safe cracker and if the safe is  weighty and going to take more than 10 minutes for them to faf around with they wont bother

... Unless the thieves just take your car keys out of your jacket and take the safe away in your car. I never cease to be amazed by the number of people who only close their front door and don’t bother locking it (even overnight). If they’re lucky, they only get some drunken stranger wandering into their house and sitting down to watch TV with them would you believe? 

10 hours ago, TringSilver said:

Also it's probably worth considering that the weakest part of any safe will be the owner, if someone's got a knife to a loved ones throat we'd all soon be telling them where the key is or what the code is. 

... That’s the scariest scenario but is sadly not uncommon either. The saying goes that “if you don’t hold it, you don’t own it” but after considering purchasing a safe in the past, I eventually settled on renting a box at a safe deposit facility for peace of mind. Now my coins are so safe that even I can’t access them thanks to lockdown!

[GoodAsGold]

In addition to my last post I would have to add that unlike you guys I’m not a stacker so a small box at a safe deposit facility will probably not suit your needs - especially if you’re stacking loads of silver. These places may offer larger more expensive boxes though.

This topic has obviously been raised in the past and I recall someone saying that if the thieves know that you have a safe hidden on your property (even under floorboards) they can just use a metal detector to help them find it. A point that did cross my mind is that if you get a specialist company to install it for you, you have to hope that nobody accesses its invoices to find out what households contain safes. It may only take one employee who perhaps owes a drug debt or criminals who are aware of someone who works for an installation business and targets them. Let’s hope that nobody blows your cover so to speak. But the fewer people that know you have a safe the better.  

[5huggy]

CHUBB!

every time IMHO

Not the electronic type they are so easily beaten!

Double key type 

"Tip" - get it delivered to a relative that you trust

then move it to its intended location - 

that way you  break any paper trace or knowledge of where it actually is

[TringSilver]

12 minutes ago, 5huggy said:

CHUBB!

Like this one @5huggy ? 😁

 

[TringSilver]

13 minutes ago, 5huggy said:

"Tip" - get it delivered to a relative that you trust

Great idea too, also get them to pay. You'll have to apologise if they get knocked over though 😳

[5huggy]

17 minutes ago, TringSilver said:

Like this one @5huggy ? 😁

 

and how did you get a pic of my "strong room" 

[Bigmarc]

You can sometimes pick up old vintage safes that use to be in banks and post offices. The ones with the star shaped keys along side combination locks. 

The thief would have to be 100 years old to get past it. Pre internet days.

 

[dicker]

I am not an expert but cheap really is not good.  While working for an investment bank in London, I sat next to a huge Tann or Chubb safe with twin combination dials and a key lock.  It was perhaps 5 foot tall and pretty wide.  
 

It held bearer certs and materialised stock and bonds (stock that for various reasons was not recorded in Crest). Even though it was a monster of a safe, it had cameras pointed toward it.  Whenever an employee casually twirled one of the combinations, the security team would be up in less than a couple of minutes, bollocking administered to whoever touched the safe and the dials were reset to zero.  (It did have a big sign saying do not touch). 

Even though it was a monster, it was constantly watched - I think that tells you what you need to know - safety first!

Best

Dicker

[dicker]

BTW if anyone is interested in seeing proper safes, they are in many of basements of old banks in the CitY of London.   Whilst pretty much none are used any more, you can’t really get access.  Apart from....in The Ned. This is a Hotel / Bar in the City and has a rather impressive safe you can go and see.  This is it:

 

 

[dicker]

@Bigmarcsorry for diverting your topic, I got a bit carried away!

All the best to you

Dicker
 

 

[Bigmarc]

No worries dicker 👍 

You got to love a good safe! 

You wouldn't walk into ollivanders and buy any old wand would you? 

 

[theylivewesleep27]

On 14/03/2021 at 10:18, 5huggy said:

CHUBB!

every time IMHO

Not the electronic type they are so easily beaten!

Double key type 

"Tip" - get it delivered to a relative that you trust

then move it to its intended location - 

that way you  break any paper trace or knowledge of where it actually is

Yea I've been looking at a chubb safe. I was going to get the digital keypad version instead of a key. Shurely key holes can be picked? And why is the digital keypad version £300 more expensive if its not as secure?