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33 minutes ago, Silverstackeruk said:

Thanks for the information simon..I've never seen red spots on gold coins before..the photo showed one with red spots which is the reason I didn't buy that and went for the 1oz...I normally buy coins take a photo then there placed in storage until my kids are old enough to appreciate them..for all I know all my coins will have red spots...is this the same a white spots on silver? Tbh I didn't reliase gold can get spots ..I always assumed it was only silver..

 

Spotting is no where close to the silver milking/spotting problem.  You see it a fair bit on old Pandas but unlike silver spotting, it can be removed.  I've heard there have been instances where the spots has gone away.  The gold spotting is also just a few spots here and there whereas on silver it can afffect the whole coin.

1 hour ago, Silverstackeruk said:

What are the red spots? Not received mine yet but I wouldn't be happy if it came with a red spot...will that lower the value?

Oxidation of impurities.  Happens quite a lot with gold which you can look up.  There are ways to remove it but it doesn't bother me.  It's a 35 year old bulllion coin so things like that are expected.

It does reduce the value but since it was reasonably priced in the first place it doesn't make any difference.

If you are expecting A1 coins you really need to be looking at relatively new coins in some form of Mint packaging.

edit..come to think of it, this spot could be an acid test mark.

I bought a few of these as spares to bring down the cost average.  I'm a mad collector of 1/10ths but in case there are any others out there I'm going to offer some for sale.  They are expensive and I'll run through sums.

$156 X 10 + $109 shipping = $1669 / 1.22 (exchange rate at time) = £1368 + £12 (customs clearance fee) = £1380 / 10 = £138

MCM declared the coins as numismatic collectibles so is subject to VAT.  I can't be bothered trying to contest it as I have tried before and takes forever (I actually gave up) so I'll just claim the VAT back at a later date and accept the £12 fee.

If anyone wants one, they will be £140 + postage of your choice.

Just want to clarify.  Is it a 2012 half for £145 or a 2012 full with a mis price?

28 minutes ago, vand said:

Never got there... and that is why you need a long term strategy for buying rather than just setting random price point targets on a whim.

I'm a collector so it doesn't really bother me.  I can't predict prices so I buy whenever I feel like and have the funds available.  If all goes well I would never have to sell and it will be up to my children to dispose of my collection.  If there was a winning strategy I and many others wouldn't be here but rather sunning it up on our own private island.

30 minutes ago, Gilver said:

No it's not business sale, but in my country any sale is considered income so it's added to citizens annual income and it's subject to taxation yearly. So I have to pay it eventually. Businesses have obligation to incorporate VAT in sale price immediately and pay it monthly.

So income tax then and not VAT.  Although the same %, when you state VAT it would be associated with business sales hence the question.

With VAT built into your calculations, does that mean this is a business sale?

Shield if still available

4 minutes ago, Lindeman said:

@morezone- thanks for sharing. Are those scuffs between the chicken and the 1 OZ FINE GOLD on the coin itself?! If so then the Royal Mint have sunk to a new depth for quality control?!☹️ May I ask - was that via Goldline or direct from the Mint? 

Lindeman 

All scuffs/abrasions are on the coin itself. Royal Mint quality control is pretty much none existent.  Each of my UK Lunars have some sort of imperfection.  This coin was supplied by CoinInvest. 

12 minutes ago, ArthGoch said:

Via Google translate I came across a thread that I think states that it is planned that this will be the last medal design in the series - Are you aware if this is the case? 

thanks

 

I was under the impression that there would be a final one in 2017 but I have no definitive answer.

2015 China 1 oz. Reverse Proof 60th Anniversary FUN Show - Silver Panda Medal NGC PF69

Got a few of these spare.  It was more economical to buy a few to split the shipping/customs than just buying a single one for myself.  I was expecting to pay full taxes but the declaration was for slightly less so they have come in cheaper than expected.

MCM want US$200 for these which is over priced.  

https://www.moderncoinmart.com/2015-china-10-yuan-1-oz.-reverse-proof-60th-anniversary-fun-show-silver-panda-medal-ngc-pf69-exclusive-label.html

£102.50 + delivery of your choice.

Due to the size, if going by 1st Class signed-for (at your own risk) it will be a small parcel rate at £5 with packaging materials.

Special Delivery (insured) is £9 but can be also be done for £7.75 if some packaging material is sacrificed to keep the weight under 500g.

3 minutes ago, motorbikez said:

@morezone I'm surprised they actually delivered the coins without payment,I'd guess they've messed up (the PO that is) & you'll hear nothing I got a package last year delivered by parcel force with charges all over it from Oz & I heard nothing.

I paid the charge at the depot. Normally I'd wait for the letter and then make payment online and have them deliver it to my door.  You need a charge reference number to pay online so without the letter you can't actually get the parcel.  I was in the area anyway so just popped in.  With the last Parcel I made a special trip.  Lucky I did otherwise I'd have wasted a few days waiting on the letter before deciding to go and pick it up.

I've had quite a few Royal Mail parcels which they didn't collect the charges on despite the stickers.  On two occasions I had to go the Sorting Office to pick it up because I was out and although there should have been a charge, they didn't bother collecting and told me that it wasn't my fault it was sorted wrong so they won't ask me for the payment.  Very nice of them since I would have had to come to pay the charge anyway so wouldn't have made any difference.  There was another Royal Mail Parcel which was well over due and then a charge letter (card) came through and was dated from over a week earlier.  Went to pickup the Parcel and explained how I'd only just got the card that morning and they actually waived the charges and apologised.  

Little silver YuanBao. Just 20g but is hollow so much bigger than if it were a solid piece. Just a novelty item really.

@juliacoins please keep all talk to this thread.  All other threads in this section are for photos only. Thanks

2016 Smithsonian Panda Medal - 10k mintage.  Distributed/issued by China Great Wall Investment Coins Ltd and minted by Shenzhen Guobao Mint and was commissioned/sponsored by the Smithsonian Institute and GovMint. 

2016 Moon Festival Panda - 5k mintage. Distributed/issued by China Great Wall Investment Coins Ltd and minted by Shenzhen Guobao Mint and was commissioned/sponsored by GovMint/MCM

Good job I went to collect the parcel on Thursday.  Still haven't received the charge letter yet and seeing how it arrived and was scanned it at the depot on Tuesday night, the paper work should have gone out on Wednesday.  Everyone who ordered has now paid and this thread is going to be marked as "complete" now.

There is another Panda medal which I have coming in.  Already been sat at the international depot waiting for customs charging for a week.  Parcel Force are not very efficient.  Gone are the days when a 3 day international delivery meant it arrived within 3 days even with customs clearing.  I digress.  Anyway.......

I some of the 2015 1oz  Fun Show Pandas PF69 coming in.  When first released it was too expensive but has come down in price since.  I would have liked OMP but they're still a little pricey for me so I'm settling for PF69.  This is the link for MCM although over priced there.  Should be landing with me at around £115.  If anyone is interested, let me know.

https://www.moderncoinmart.com/2015-china-10-yuan-1-oz.-reverse-proof-60th-anniversary-fun-show-silver-panda-medal-ngc-pf69-exclusive-label.html

You mean 2004 to 2017, 14 coin total?