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I wouldn’t bother, it’s just money up in smoke.

No, I don’t mean the SOTD sovereigns, I mean the 2018 ‘Normal’ mintage, bullion sovereigns on page 158, listed as No: 351.

Hi all, So I was looking through the latest, revised (2021) version Marsh book. The Gold Sovereign to those who don’t know and I noticed the mintage for the 2018 ‘Normal’ bullion sovereign is listed as No: 351 on page 158, with a mintage of 323. Am I missing something or is that an obvious typo? It seems a strangely low mintage for a bullion sovereign.

There’s also the sovereigns that went into the melting pot in the early 1930’s. Nobody really knows which were melted because nobody was particularly bothered then, a sovereign was a sovereign. The mass melting during that time have undoubtedly led to many more rarities even with original mintages of 1 million plus minted of a particular year. I’ve read that the Australian sovereigns of 1920’s decade and up to 1931 met the melting pot en mass. But nobody knows the exact figures. Maybe this is what makes things more interesting for the collector. Possibly slightly frustrating but without doubt it keeps the collecting interesting.

You can if you’re a journalist. 😆

I think it’s safe to say that 2023 will be another busy year and the RM will be milking the coronation too. There may well be a series of kings beasts or even a memorial set for each of the late queens late corgis. I wouldn’t put it past them.

Embargo? 😆

It is and oddly it makes me think of the old lion bar adverts.

Personally, I like both. I think in terms of the design, the memorial sovereign is better. But having said that, will the first sovereign of King Charles III really be known as the memorial sovereign. It seems to take something away from this first sovereign release of King Charles by calling it a memorial sovereign. I understand why it’s called that but I still feel it’s a sovereign for the sake of a sovereign. My only criticism I would say is that the date or year could have been bigger. But then again it’s distinguishable by the design alone so maybe that wasn’t necessary. As far as the reverse design goes, this is very impressive. I wonder if this was designed way before HM The Queen passed away or after. I don’t think there’s a real answer to your question, only opinions and I still stand by saying, I like both reverse designs.

What’s Lawrence up to? 🤔

I agree, except for their dreadful capsules. Don't forget #capsulegate on the forum, circa November 2021.

I did think that when I saw the design initially this weekend, it’s a very ‘busy’ design. A nice design none the less but still ‘busy’.

We can lack patience at being in a queue like any other nation. If anyone dare queue jump, expect silent mutters and ‘tut’s’ of disapproval and eye rolling. Hell hath no fury like the rest of the queue against a queue jumper. That’s all I can say. We love to hate queuing but we do it anyway. It’s almost as bad as using a tea bag twice. No, actually it’s not, that must never be done.

As a mostly Sovereign collector and researcher. I think the current 2022 sovereign has a very appealing reverse design that will be popular for many years to come. Be that in proof, bullion or the SOTD sovereign. Why? Well it was designed as a special reverse to commemorate the late Queens 70 years on the throne and none of us knew on the release of the proof sovereign in November 2021 that it would also be the last sovereign of Queen Elizabeth II. That aside. This new sovereign release has no doubt caught many off guard. It wasn’t expected. In a ‘normal’ year the next release would be the 2023 sovereign but a change of monarch has changed all of that. This release will no doubt be popular but it will also divide opinion both here on the forum and in the wider numismatist world. Is it a sovereign for the sake of a sovereign? Possibly so. But it’s also the first sovereign of King Charles III. Might the only saving grace be for those who truly want to own this release be that the flippers may be put off by the January 2023 delivery date. I think it would help the serious collectors and possibly deter the quick flippers. Maybe not, who knows. Regardless of wether you love or hate this design it just goes to show the strength and popularity of the sovereign, no matter the monarch on the obverse and long may that continue.

You need to post this in the buy and sell section. You’ll also need to state wether they’re graded or not.

Glad to hear it worked. I was more referring to the postage of items first due to lack of feedback. 😆 Have you looked on the other side?

@James32 you’ve got more front than Blackpool prom. 😆

Does anyone actually know if that is the confirmed reverse design? I can’t seem to find that image on any of the usual dealer websites.

That would be classed as bullion and not commemorative.

Is this the confirmed design?

There were two. Maybe they wanted to keep quiet, it’s a bit like those lottery jackpot winners who go public and you see their photo in the paper spraying champagne everywhere with a giant cheque bigger than their house. Crazy to do that, but each to their own. Obviously this is on a very different scale but you get the idea. 😆

But did they come out in the wash?

I don’t have much to add other than to say I’m shocked reading some of these experiences of other members. Thankfully I’ve never had an issue with Royal Mail, not to tempt fate. I hope you and the seller get this resolved @James32. Like others have said, I’ve had complaints with other companies before that were going nowhere and an email to the CEO always got a quick response and were resolved quicker than the usual complaints department. @Petra Hermes are now called Evri, I think it stands for (Evri parcel damaged or lost and they are dreadful. I’ve had large items lost with Hermes before and then had to fight a claim and appeal process. I don’t know how they’re still in business, the rebranding of the company should tell everyone everything they need to know. No established company with a good reputation would rebrand on the scale they have because they don’t need to.

My advice, if you’re looking to buy a particular coin that’s already graded is to see what they are selling for. Search past sold prices and auction results are a good place to start. Always do your research first. As others have said, prices will always fluctuate and some will do better then others over time.

Is it that time of year again already. Time really does go fast. I’m happy to enter the Christmas draw again. I’ll have to get my diving equipment out the loft to find this years prize draw though. Only joking of course. I’d like to enter with a 1oz silver coin, a £10 donation to charity (of the winners choice) and a mystery prize. Which is also still a mystery to me at present.