sovereignsteve

70 grade?

That is brilliant

Maybe specailly made for a retired old second row rugby player?

Never seen any mention of such a variety.

Some sellers who appear to be dealers do not seem to log on to the forum over the weekend.

more common than Marsh says imo but still a nice coin

No not just you I've never heard of the Numismatic Collectors Company, perhaps one of our American friends know something about it. I have come across a couple of other obscure grading companies from the US and they all seem to overgrade compared to NGC and PCGS. Yes, I would agree with you, it is nowhere near a MS67 assuming those photos aren't giving a misleading picture. There seems to be a lot of wear on the eagle body and some horrible scratches on Liberty's cheek.

I thought that site was discontinued. The new site is on the "compare" link at the top of the forum homepage.

I believe the main engraving is done in plaster considerably larger than a sovereign (maybe a foot in diameter) and then reduced by a transfer reducing machine. When the lettering and dates are punched in I'm not sure, nor what size die they are dealing with at that stage.

I can't remember the platinum coin in question but I will have been referring to obvious monstrosities. I agree entirely with you concerning the study of numismatic forgeries. I have had the misfortune to have bought some in my time and have kept them for a while in order to study them, until the gold contained in them wanted to be liquidated. I once bought a batch of 3 or 4 sovereign forgeries for interest. In fact I should still have them, problem being I can't remember where there are😁 BTW you won't remember the occasion in question but that 1822 graded up as PCGS 55 or 58 I can't remember which, probably 55 as we decided it didn't quite make EF

everyone if you keep publicising it😉

Amateur😉 You have to be quick on here😁

Yes. I believe they do on site grading in Munich once or two weeks a year, but not London. Maybe sometime in the future.

well, we certainly ain't seen nothing like him in whichever amusement hall.

i actually may have the odd one or two in the bullion bin

Ever since he was a young boy......

I'm a pensioner 😄

looks like a genuine one to me

M over M you see these a lot, the engraver was correcting errors. missed the alignment the first time there was a theory that sometimes apprentices were let loose on these die stampings and either had to correct the errors or someone did it for them training exercises I guess looks like the 9 was grossly misaligned the first time

7 is definitely too big. the 5 looks small as well but may be an illusion due to the large 7 yes i would say so

In my experience guineas are not easy to grade and I wouldn't trust anyone's statement without seeing it. Half guineas are numismatic so gauging the value of one is down to grade, rarity and what people are paying. The latter not easy as market is small.

yes at the right price of course😉

Unless they've changed it recently, you can only use your vouchers when using PCGS USA not Europe.

In my limited experience grading sovereigns, I don't think it's that simple. I couldn't say one way or the other which one had higher standards. I do however think on balance that PCGS is more consistent. I have been left scratching my head at the results of some older sovs with NGC. If I were to be pushed, I would say NGC are easier on 20th century sovs but tend to be more exacting with older ones especially shields. I find I agree more with PCGS grading of the older ones.

Officially, no, their standards are the same as NGC on paper. However, with modern proofs you've only got to look at the pops, PCGS consistently grade fewer coins at 70. I've lost count of the number of PCGS 69 grades that have gone to NGC and achieved a 70. Maybe it would work the other way as well but I don't know anyone who's tried it.😄