LawrenceChard

It sounds like you have been getting advice from very questionable sources, as all your "statements" are incorrect or unsubstantiated. Other TSF members have already provided anwers to most of them. I would add that, after 1952 when King George VI died, his coins continued in circulation until 1971, and then only because we decimalised, and not because he was no longer king. It was not only his coins which continued in circulation, but also those of George V, Edward VII, Queen Victoria, and occasionally William IV, George IV, and George III. So there is absolutely no precedent for replacing a monarch's coins when they die, not in the UK, and not anywhere else in the world, now or in the past, unless anyone knows of any exceptions, and can correct me. Answers to most of you statements can also be found on the website of a well-known Blackpool coin and bullion dealer. 😎

I saw some of these today, guess where! 😎

I don't know who else has the one ounce gold Completer bullion coins in stock, but I do know that @ChardsCoinandBullionDealer bought some in late on Friday, and still have some left, as of posting this. https://www.chards.co.uk/2021-queens-beasts-completer-one-oz-gold-bullion-coin/14554 There is a decent quantity, but one single buyer could and might buy the lot. We could run a competition to guess at what time we will sell out. 😎

"I Can't Dance" to quote Genesis, but I prefer to paraphrase "I Won't Dance" by Jerome Kern with the later lyrics by Dorothy Fields and Jimmy McHugh. I know where it leads. I can't sing either, or to quote Fleetwood Mac: I can't help about the shape I'm in I can't sing, I ain't pretty and my legs are thin But don't ask me what I think of Coiny I might not give the answer that you want me to Oh, well ... and to contunue the musicial theme: "C'est la vie", say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. 😎

I would have hoped for a slightly more concrete basis, but will accept that with satisfaction. Our reputation and credibility pre-dates this forum and my participation on it. We at @ChardsCoinandBullionDealer have been dealing in numismatic coins and bullion since before 1964, so our credibility here is solidly founded, and has been hard earned. 🙂

C'est la vie! 😎

It's an idea, but it might go down like a lead balloon.

Yes, lead is an ideal material for die testing. It is surprising that there aren't more of them on the market. It can't be too long before the RM realise this. Some people might also prefer the colour. 😎

Thanks, I have been wanting to buy or appraise and photograph a platinum counterfeit sovereign for many years. A few years ago, one of our local customers mentioned seeing one in a Canadian coin shop. Unfortunately, the dealer didn't know much about it, and wanted more than it was worth IMO, so we didn't buy it. I think we also have a page about platinum fake sovereigns somewhere. Come to think about it, if the RM produced a special issue sovereign in platinum, now might be a good time, and it would probably be a nicer colour than the "gold" ones. I had all but forgotten about our Robert Matthew article, so may re-read it.

Seeing your location, have you heard the story of the American tourist visiting the Vatican and / various international cathedrals and churches?

There is no reason that a Victorian shield sovereign would be harder to fake than any other design. As it happens, I can't remember seeing many fake shield or earlier sovereigns. We do see fake Victoria Young Head St. George, Jubilee, and Old Heads. Edward VII fakes are common, as are George V. QE2 fakes are not very common, in fact I get fairly excited when I find one. My guess is that when counterfeiting was common, there were more George V, along with the others I have listed, either in circulation, or circulating in bullion markets, in which case, they would be less likely to be examined closely. Plus whatever the forgers had to hand is the most likely for them to copy, especially if making moulds from an existing coin. It would be more difficult to copy something you couldn't see, or didn't have.

Anyone ever tried pouring pre 1947 silver after melting it? 😎

Was your Apology... ... because you've been upsetting @BarryWoods? Somebody seems to have set him off on one. 😎

A Chard charred heap?

Thanks for letting me know you were only joking, I was about to post you a Braveheart salute! 😎 I couldn't have put that better myself! 😎

There should be! Perhaps on the next North West TSF members meet up.

FFS! Two rants in the blink of an eye. "(Chards at £17,000 a 5k instant profit?)" If we bought the coin weeks ago, and still have it in stock, how do you reckon or claim that to be an instant profit? If we sold it instantly, and if we had paid RM issue price for it, then yes you would be almost correct. As it is, you are wrong yet again. Also, other members have tried to educate and inform you, with no apparent success, that the Royal Mint do not state any RRPs (Recommended Retail Prices). I think RRP is illegal in the UK, and also in some other jurisdictions which the RM supplies. 😎

@dikefalos obliquely mentioned you a few hours ago, ... and here you are. Things got so boring on here a few days ago, that some members started trolling @HerefordBullyun, and @Minimalist even called me a lunatic. Welcome back, Bary Bawwy Barmy Mr. Wods @BarryWoods, we missed some of your random spellings. How are the infinite number of chimpanzees doing these days? For a reasonable consideration, I could let you into some of the secrets of being a coin dealer. Actually here is one thrown in as a freebie. @ChardsCoinandBullionDealer bought the 5 ounce gold Gothic from a private individual. That's what most dealers do you know, they buy and sell things. Good luck with the FOI. We hope you will share the information with all your friends here on TSF. Another secret revealed: I am one of the UK's leading flippers. The Who wrote a song about me (or was it Carly Simon?) "Put all the mintage on the Royal Mint website. let dealers compete with the public to buy them at launch (fairly) - OR let dealers have a proportion at launch, but insist they sell at RRP.." Very nice socialist and publis spirited suggestion, but almost certainly illegal under competition law, see: https://www.gov.uk/cartels-price-fixing "Avoid and report anti-competitive activity" "Overview All businesses, whatever their size, must understand how they’re affected by competition law. You must follow the rules on all types of anti-competitive activity including: price fixing, bid rigging and other ways of agreeing not to compete (sometimes called ‘cartels’) abuse of a dominant market position You should manage the risk of breaking the law, for example by having clear policies, guidelines and training for your staff. You can report anti-competitive activity if you think another business is breaking the law, or if you might have been involved yourself. If you’re involved in anti-competitive activity Your business can be fined up to 10% of its worldwide turnover and sued for damages. You can be fined or sent to prison for up to 5 years if you’re found guilty of being involved in cartel activity. Company directors can be disqualified from being a director for up to 15 years." In your ignorance lack of experience and knowledge, you seem blissfully aware that, since 2000, @ChardsCoinandBullionDealer have offered pre-order and early bird discounts on Royal Mint gold proof sovereigns and a number of other newly released products, including a small quantity of the 2022 proof sovereigns. Check out the facts if you don't believe me, although I think some of the better informed TSF members will be happy to confirm this for you. It is my firm belief that the Royal Mint didn't and still don't like to see their products discounted, and their UK direct sales operation undercut by small provincial dealers. Understandably, they have never put this in writing, for obvious legal reasons. If you asked them directly, they would understandably and predictably deny it, or ignore you. Over decades, we have been informally warned by a number of their distributors about our discounting, and that it might negatively impact their relationship with the RM. "Put all the mintage on the Royal Mint website." This also may be illegal under competition law. A monopoly producer of British coins, keeping the distribution monopoly to itself. Besides, it has tried to control the UK market, but found that this policy was not very successful for the larger international markets, in which it struggled. This helps to explain why it has a number of international distributors, some of whom are prohibited from re-exporting them to the UK market, possibly under the cloak of territorial exclusivity deals. You keep asking my secrets. You so badly want to know the Royal Mint's secrets that you send them an ROI, but you don't reveal much about your own transactions. A number of members here have asked you how much you paid Bullion Shed for your coin, whatever it was (I think you did reveal that, but it took so many pages, that I for one stopped looking). 😎

When I saw my first modern coloured coin, I disliked it, partly because I thought it was gimmicky, but partly because it was rathr naff, and badly executed. Since then I have seen quite a selection of coloured coins, and other coins with unusual shapes, textures, and more. If they are done well, I can understand people collecting them. I still don't like gimmicky coins, but have grown to like some coloured coins, and also some coins with unusual features. It sounds like this thread / topic might attract other TSF members showcasing their own "feature" coins, and I hope it works for you. Have you ever seen some of the coloured enamelled coins which used to be hand done in Victorian times?

None in the shed. I was concerned that this photo might have breached the topic / thread guidelines, because it fails to show any coins, only the metal box, even though it does say "sovereign" on it.

Is this OK? (Credit to follow) 😎

Is that how you do it? 😎

1871 Victoria Young Head Half Sovereign I like this coin, despite the scratches on the obverse, possibly detector find spade marks. I had to look closely at the reverse to see the die number correctly. It is 65, although it could be a possible 65/63, but perhaps that's wishful thinking. Oh, and there is evidence on the reverse of a previous die clash, which I always find more interesting than seeing a "plain vanilla" coin. Coming soon: a half proof sovereign, which I will not be able to show in this thread. 😎

Looks good!

Did I introduce you to my left foot?