KleinerVogel

I don't doubt it works exceptionally well, very well for the trusted. Not so well for the new people who still have to worry that they won't be ripped off on the word of other forum users saying "don't worry he is fine" Just look at the recent example, the guy who scammed, people vouched for him using the trust point system here, he used that trust to make his final transaction here an act of theft. But as I said, i get it, we live in a dangerous world with scammers everywhere, of course no system is perfect. I'm not saying the system here is bad, I just have my concerns about it.
 
It might be my loss, but I'm not too concerned about my reputation, no one here will be buying from me because I won't be selling. Not because I don't like the people here, i actually like a lot of you, you seem like really nice people.

I don't doubt it works exceptionally well, very well for the trusted. Not so well for the new people who still have to worry that they won't be ripped off on the word of other forum users saying "don't worry he is fine" Just look at the recent example, the guy who scammed, people vouched for him using the trust point system here, he used that trust to make his final transaction here an act of theft. But as I said, i get it, we live in a dangerous world with scammers everywhere, of course no system is perfect. I'm not saying the system here is bad, I just have my concerns about it.
 
It might be my loss, but I'm not too concerned about my reputation, no one here will be buying from me because I won't be selling. Not because I don't like the people here, i actually like a lot of you, you seem like really nice people.

Hmm when did I say that? I literally didn't make that statement, so why should I try to defend it? I can think your system is flawed but not offer an alternative system to replace it. You can also ignore my feelings on the matter without becoming triggered.
 
Cheers.

I wasn't actually really making an argument. I was just posting my feelings on the matter, my opinion. I think I mentioned that. I also stated I understand the reasons for the policy of trusted members receiving goods first then paying later.
 

Been here for awhile and already been involved in conversations. I mostly lurk here to read topics that interest me. But as I mentioned, I'm not that concerned about my rep because I probably won't be buying or selling on here. I like the people here, you all seem like nice people, but I think the trust system you have here is flawed for the reasons I already stated.
 
 

I wasn't actually really making an argument. I was just posting my feelings on the matter, my opinion. I think I mentioned that. I also stated I understand the reasons for the policy of trusted members receiving goods first then paying later.
 

Been here for awhile and already been involved in conversations. I mostly lurk here to read topics that interest me. But as I mentioned, I'm not that concerned about my rep because I probably won't be buying or selling on here. I like the people here, you all seem like nice people, but I think the trust system you have here is flawed for the reasons I already stated.
 
 

Although I understand the post first get paid later when selling to well known forum users, it still leaves bit of a bitter taste in my mouth because it feels like the community is being split into the privileged popular people who can have things sent to them with no risks and then the rest of us who just have to trust some guys on a forum who says don't worry that person is fine. I mean those trust worthy people had to start out like the rest of us didn't they.
 
But I get it, we live in a world where bad people exist who want to take things that don't belong to them from honest people. But it seems one of the unfortunate side effects of that reality and the counters you guys are making to it, is the haves and have nots on the forum, the privileged "trusted" and the rest being great unwashed untrusted who must take all the risks when selling. That's just my feelings on the matter, just my opinion. There is no right or wrong, or any kind of argument to be had.
When I joined the forums awhile ago, i was tinkering with the idea of perhaps selling on here one day, but after the recent scams from a "trusted" person, I decided to perhaps not bother, which is why I'm not too concerned about building my rep now and just speaking plainly.
I suppose I am more angry at the thieves and dishonest people who ruin good things, rather than being upset with the system here.

Hmm when did I say that? I literally didn't make that statement, so why should I try to defend it? I can think your system is flawed but not offer an alternative system to replace it. You can also ignore my feelings on the matter without becoming triggered.
 
Cheers.

Trust is a two way street!
Perhaps you can elaborate why you feel trust is more directional towards sellers with little to no reputation compared to buyers with established and high end reputation!?

Been here for awhile and already been involved in conversations. I mostly lurk here to read topics that interest me. But as I mentioned, I'm not that concerned about my rep because I probably won't be buying or selling on here. I like the people here, you all seem like nice people, but I think the trust system you have here is flawed for the reasons I already stated.
 
 

Although I understand the post first get paid later when selling to well known forum users, it still leaves bit of a bitter taste in my mouth because it feels like the community is being split into the privileged popular people who can have things sent to them with no risks and then the rest of us who just have to trust some guys on a forum who says don't worry that person is fine. I mean those trust worthy people had to start out like the rest of us didn't they.
 
But I get it, we live in a world where bad people exist who want to take things that don't belong to them from honest people. But it seems one of the unfortunate side effects of that reality and the counters you guys are making to it, is the haves and have nots on the forum, the privileged "trusted" and the rest being great unwashed untrusted who must take all the risks when selling. That's just my feelings on the matter, just my opinion. There is no right or wrong, or any kind of argument to be had.
When I joined the forums awhile ago, i was tinkering with the idea of perhaps selling on here one day, but after the recent scams from a "trusted" person, I decided to perhaps not bother, which is why I'm not too concerned about building my rep now and just speaking plainly.
I suppose I am more angry at the thieves and dishonest people who ruin good things, rather than being upset with the system here.

Congrats on your first sov. Don't think of it as spending money though (except for the small premium) you're trading digits on a screen for real hard money. Savings for a rainy day. 🙂

Yeah I imagine you're correct there.
I bought a tube once, but then it vanished when my alarm clock went off, so I can't check mine. 😅

Yeah I imagine you're correct there.
I bought a tube once, but then it vanished when my alarm clock went off, so I can't check mine. 😅

Bloody collectors, one minute they are crying to everyone that their latest purchase has a tiny speck on at x1000, magnification, next minute they are drooling over a dog of an error bullion coin. Send the bugger back to the mint, get a proper yin😄👍

There could be any number in tubes unopened, not everyone opens the tubes, many straight into storage, especially those with such direct dealer arrangements; simply never see them!!

Premieres tomorrow at 2pm BST!
 
 

I see, nice find. That is one error sov I wouldn't mind being sent by accident. 🙂

We've just finished shooting our video with @LawrenceChard !

This is mainly to prove to you all that we haven't sold him off in our sale...but also to give you a closer look at this amazing brockage sovereign!

We will post the video on this thread in the coming days.
Thanks,
Chris

No
It's genuine
No trickery here.
Here is @LawrenceChard looking quite content (as we all would!)

I used to worry about touching my silver, but now I just throw them things in tubes with my bare hands. You can buy cheap white cotton gloves off amazon which do the job though if you have any (silver) proofs or special bullion coins you want to keep clean. As for gold, I've never had much of that to touch being not very rich. 😛
But the little I have I just fondle it, gold is pretty good at not caring very much about what it comes into contact with. Unless you have gold proofs, then wear gloves for sure, or as others have said, try not to handle them at all.
 

I used to worry about touching my silver, but now I just throw them things in tubes with my bare hands. You can buy cheap white cotton gloves off amazon which do the job though if you have any (silver) proofs or special bullion coins you want to keep clean. As for gold, I've never had much of that to touch being not very rich. 😛
But the little I have I just fondle it, gold is pretty good at not caring very much about what it comes into contact with. Unless you have gold proofs, then wear gloves for sure, or as others have said, try not to handle them at all.
 

Congratulations, but out of interest what is it?  - Date, type, source, cost etc. You will always remember your first sovereign, so please share. Mine was a 1997 Proof!…..
Cheers,