FabulousLunar

17 hours ago, GoldenGriffin said:

I feel this could be a coin swap.  Let's see if any other Griffin's all of a sudden get graded much higher.

Such a shame for PCGS and loss for you. Feel really sorry for you. If it was coin swap I don't think another coin would appear anytime soon. Grader who did swap just took good coin for his collection. Grading it right now could just expose him. If its not swap then grader accidentally or intentionally damaged the coin. Such a shame it is impossible to proof that you sent perfect coin and recover losses. 

Btw, what capsule that coin had originally? I just took a look at coin image on pcgs and I saw such sort of scratches before. They obviously not appeared from wiping with a cloth. Once I got a proof lunar with opened capsule and it had similar scratches. Coin was sent with closed capsule, but during shipping capsule opened from vibration and coin fall from it inside the box.

23 hours ago, Orpster said:

I have seen coins that bad that were fine on receipt, but the buyer stored them under their sink in a humid environment

I'm pretty sure that humid environment couldn't cause such milk spots. Especially so fast. I have some examples. One is long time ago, my father put .999 silver bar into tank with drinking water. That bar stayed like a year or more. It had rich brown toning. But nothing similar to milk spots. Something similar I did with silver coin. Coin was pretty damaged, basically just chunk of silver so I wanted to make experiment. I've put it into tank of water as well. 3 weeks and nothing. Then I put it into dishwashing machine(noticed, that silver spoon got very nice rich brown toning so I wanted to replicate similar toning on the coin) and same effect: nothing changed. And yes, silver spoon, which has rich brown toning. But I've never seen milk spots on old coins or silverware. So I'm pretty sure that milk spots caused by some chemistry from mint processing.

2 minutes ago, TheBeast said:

My very first 1oz of gold piece. Hopefully more to come… suit’s my collection very well!

Is that slab polished so well or coin itself not covered by plastic?

Idk about slab itself, but I clearly see that coin is fake..

Noticed that dragon on ebay. Seller has very high reputation with no negative feedback and lots of real coins on sale. However dragon in fake slab looks fake to me. Here is images and image of original perth mint coin from same seller in original slab. Difference can be clearly seen. Beware. Those fakes looks better each year.

1 hour ago, HighlandTiger said:

This thread is the reason I won't touch slabbed coins. Every year the fakes get better and better, and I strongly believe that within 5 years fakes will be indistinguishable from the real thing unless you break open the slab and check the coin.

Just wait until 3D printing gets out of it's infancy and into its element. 

It depends on coin. I don't think we gonna see indistinguishable fakes for proof modern coins and bullion coins made by Perth Mint for example. Just because technology is too complex. And too easy to find that out. As for old coins we already have such fakes.. I don't want to be unfounded but 2 years ago I read on biggest Russian numismatic forum topic where expert said that NGC graded coin very likely was fake. And I can believe in that, as it is obvious that Russian expert have much more experience in Russian coins than American expert. It was gold coin made from real gold, but it has huge numismatic premium. That was a reason why I decided to skip old coins. Too risky.

New type of fakes I see last time on ebay. All pictures very unclear, however on picture with queen you can clearly see fake coin. I'm not sure why they made so unclear pictures, maybe to avoid ebay rules and eBay Money Back Guarantee.

55 minutes ago, Abyss said:

Received partial order today from The European Mint I have ordered full tube 1 oz Gold Greyhound coins but only received 7 and 3 more on the way.........

Nice buy, but that's why I would never buy tubes again.. Once I've ordered tube of celtic animals from one Germany dealer. It was described as sealed tube. As a result I got opened tube with none coin in perfect conditions. All of them had mechanical defects and 5 coins had fingerprints in addition. And those coins had high premium and cost more than perfect Perth Mint coins in capsules at same size. Gladly I could return them..