200 Anniversary "Strike on the day" Sovereign

[Fivepoundfred]

 You get an account, you add a credit  ( or debit) card to the account and then they take a percentage of your outstanding balance once a month from your card.

The account has a limit that can be increased later on if required, When you buy online there is a payment tick box to pay via your account, if you order by phone just tell them to add the purchase to your account.

There is no extra charge at all !

I have had such an account for quite some time and still always use it, i presume things are still the same for new account holders.

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[Avlis]

Hi Verne it might be a work hardening crack ie..when you bend a piece of metal in the same place several times it will crack and eventually break if so this would suggest a problem at the annealing stage of production, but I would expect this to be a whole batch not just one... Just clutching at straws. 

[Avlis]

Hi Verne it might be a work hardening crack ie..when you bend a piece of metal in the same place several times it will crack and eventually break if so this would suggest a problem at the annealing stage of production, but I would expect this to be a whole batch not just one... Just clutching at straws. 

[sovereignsteve]

7 hours ago, Vern said:

Who do you think is best to value this coin?

If you want my opinion, it's a substandard production fault that is worth only bullion. I'd send it back for a replacement.

Anyone who'd pay more for it is also cracked

[sovereignsteve]

3 hours ago, Avlis said:

when you bend a piece of metal in the same place several times it will crack and eventually break if so this would suggest a problem at the annealing stage of production

do they really do this to sheets of gold used to stamp out blanks?

[sovereignsteve]

2 minutes ago, shortstack68 said:

Are medals considered bullion 

not following you

[sovereignsteve]

3 minutes ago, shortstack68 said:

Milled rim, medal type bullion gold, sov "strike on the day"  teasing  etc etc etc

too subtle for me, probably time I was in bed at my age

[Avlis]

From the time the gold is dug out of the earth to being stamped coins have gone through several processes including pouring to thickness rolling this causes stresses/tensions/hardening to developing in the planchet ,annealing " relaxes" these stresses to make it more maleable or softer .stamping causes the gold to re harden which could cause cracking ,so that's why I guessed there might have been a problem at the annealing stage again it's just a guess and no I don't think they "keep bending the gold"(sovereign steve). ?  This was just an example of work hardening

[Vern]

9 hours ago, sovereignsteve said:

If you want my opinion, it's a substandard production fault that is worth only bullion. I'd send it back for a replacement.

Anyone who'd pay more for it is also cracked

 

[sovereignsteve]

4 hours ago, Avlis said:

From the time the gold is dug out of the earth to being stamped coins have gone through several processes including pouring to thickness rolling this causes stresses/tensions/hardening to developing in the planchet ,annealing " relaxes" these stresses to make it more maleable or softer .stamping causes the gold to re harden which could cause cracking ,so that's why I guessed there might have been a problem at the annealing stage again it's just a guess and no I don't think they "keep bending the gold"(sovereign steve). ?  This was just an example of work hardening

I'm no metallurgist and always assumed they just made up the correct alloy in the melting pot, poured it out and rolled it to thickness before simply cutting out the blanks ready for minting. It would indeed be interesting to know if they did much more. Perhaps I need a trip to Wales?

[ChardsCoinandBullionDealer]

On 01/07/2017 at 10:10, Paul said:

Am i missing something here ?  whats the point and the near 100% premium 

Has anyone any information about an error on the certs for the 2017 200th Anniversary Strike on the Day sov? We've heard a whisper that our allocation will be delayed due to an error on the certs - we'd love to know what it is. If you've already received your coin please can you check and let me know.

[ChardsCoinandBullionDealer]

13 minutes ago, ChardLizzie said:

Has anyone any information about an error on the certs for the 2017 200th Anniversary Strike on the Day sov? We've heard a whisper that our allocation will be delayed due to an error on the certs - we'd love to know what it is. If you've already received your coin please can you check and let me know.

Just heard that the certs say proof instead of brilliant uncirculated

 

[westminstrel]

@ChardLizzie, I think it's the fact that the COA says Proof somewhere in the text. I'm saying this based on discussions here and videos I've seen on YouTube.

[ChardsCoinandBullionDealer]

13 minutes ago, ChardLizzie said:

Has anyone any information about an error on the certs for the 2017 200th Anniversary Strike on the Day sov? We've heard a whisper that our allocation will be delayed due to an error on the certs - we'd love to know what it is. If you've already received your coin please can you check and let me know.

Just heard that the certs say proof instead of brilliant uncirculated

 

[ChardsCoinandBullionDealer]

14 minutes ago, westminstrel said:

@ChardLizzie, I think it's the fact that the COA says Proof somewhere in the text. I'm saying this based on discussions here and videos I've seen on YouTube.

Thank you, I'd missed this in the thread

 

[whitesands1]

1 hour ago, ChardLizzie said:

Just heard that the certs say proof instead of brilliant uncirculated

 

 

[augur]

Poor Mr Elliott, having to sign another 1.817 certificates.

But then again 1.817 times he wasn't reading what he signed...

[westminstrel]

7 minutes ago, augur said:

Poor Mr Elliott, having to sign another 1.817 certificates.

But then again 1.817 times he wasn't reading what he signed...

You are hilarious

[westminstrel]

7 minutes ago, augur said:

Poor Mr Elliott, having to sign another 1.817 certificates.

But then again 1.817 times he wasn't reading what he signed...

You are hilarious

[Clens92]

Hmmm.  Proof finish, coupled with a proof certificate...

I'd imagine NGC and PCGS will be slabbing as proof, as well.  I think this might augur quite well for resale values, if slabbed.

[sovereignsteve]

1 hour ago, Clens92 said:

Hmmm.  Proof finish, coupled with a proof certificate...

I'd imagine NGC and PCGS will be slabbing as proof, as well.  I think this might augur quite well for resale values, if slabbed.

people will be calling slabbed PF ones "errors" in years to come.

[Roy]

1 hour ago, Clens92 said:

 I think this might augur quite well for resale values, if slabbed.

excellent 

[Kman]

I see another one sold on Ebat BIN price £750 

Be nice if someone would be brave enough to put on at auction and see how it does 

[sovereignsteve]

29 minutes ago, Kman said:

I see another one sold on Ebat BIN price £750 

Be nice if someone would be brave enough to put on at auction and see how it does 

Serious question: If you had a couple extra, would you?

[Clens92]

32 minutes ago, Kman said:

I see another one sold on Ebat BIN price £750 

Be nice if someone would be brave enough to put on at auction and see how it does 

Hmmmm... that is quite tempting.  Would be a bit of a gamble but would it go over £750 if there's other available to BIN at that price?