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Ebay buyer switches gold coin and returns a fake will I be protected as a seller ?


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 Just went through this thread.

It looks to me like a sophisticated fraud against ebay (or their insurers).

If the seller is not vigilant enough he gets shafted, otherwise ebay intervenes and he avoids material damage.

Either way 'buyer' profits to the tune of the cost of goods. Looks like a good example of the 'victimless' crime variety.

I suspect they fraudsters keep the purchase value within an optimal range: not too low to keep transaction numbers minimal, but not too high either or risk serious criminal investigations. Juuuuuust right.

Thanks for posting the whole saga.

Everybody knows the war is over / Everybody knows the good guys lost
                               Everybody knows the boat is leaking / Everybody knows the captain lied..   Be seeing you2 sm.jpg

                                                                                                                                 “The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent”

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10 hours ago, JohnA1 said:

 Just went through this thread.

It looks to me like a sophisticated fraud against ebay (or their insurers).

If the seller is not vigilant enough he gets shafted, otherwise ebay intervenes and he avoids material damage.

Either way 'buyer' profits to the tune of the cost of goods. Looks like a good example of the 'victimless' crime variety.

I suspect they fraudsters keep the purchase value within an optimal range: not too low to keep transaction numbers minimal, but not too high either or risk serious criminal investigations. Juuuuuust right.

Thanks for posting the whole saga.

Very insightful JohnA1, very insightful indeed... .    .       .🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐

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11 minutes ago, CazLikesCoins said:

All I want to know is, did Luke Skywalker really die?

He was his own father

Everybody knows the war is over / Everybody knows the good guys lost
                               Everybody knows the boat is leaking / Everybody knows the captain lied..   Be seeing you2 sm.jpg

                                                                                                                                 “The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent”

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On 08/09/2023 at 22:59, Midasfrog said:

The returned item was nothing like the original 1/4oz gold proof Krugerrand coin that was sold, the buyer returned a Christmas card with Polar bears on 🧐

Oh that's crazy. Shows how low some people are willing to stoop to get one over on someone. Disgusting that. Definitely time to roll out 100 pizzas, preferably with a 3am delivery. It'd be worth paying for them just to get the things delivered - early doors! Just choose toppings no one in their right mind likes, or the buggers might eat them.

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I have had very little poor experience on E Bay as a seller so far. Mind you, with a few high priced exceptions, if I was scammed it wouldn't be the end of the world. But in your case, Midas, I really feel for you as you definitely belong to the "good" part of the general population. 

What have I learned from this whole episode, as I still believe the great majority of E Bay buyers are genuine sorts?

First, to tighten up on my item description to make it less likely that I might lose an arbitration case.

Never accept a buyer using a shop delivery address, and state that. Or outside the UK mainland and N.I.

Cancel a sale with a buyer with less than x positive feedbacks, x being around 50 minimum, or with 90% or less positives, or probably with a short time history as a member, like a few months?

Plenty of high quality pictures.

Special delivery.

What else?

P.s. @Midasfrog, hope to do business with you sometime soon, on here.

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