closed BUYERS OF GARY REPLY TO THIS ACCOUNT

[James32]

Just now, MikeG1978 said:

Very true could be genuine  on the way but if not it will leave a bad taste in everyone's motluth regarding buying off newbies 

Communication is key here for everyone 

Completely agree.

[James32]

2 minutes ago, MikeG1978 said:

Very true could be genuine  on the way but if not it will leave a bad taste in everyone's motluth regarding buying off newbies 

Communication is key here for everyone 

The fact the title has been edited and changed to cheese🤷

[MikeG1978]

Yes its a bit weird looks like mocking but could be wrong 

There are decent people on here I have trusted with a lot of money and hoping this doesn't hinder me buying on here 

Let's see what happens 

[ChrisSilver]

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[ChrisSilver]

I have unlocked this topic as have been made aware that there are buyers waiting for items to be delivered, so they may wish to post feedback in this topic. We are monitoring the situation. 

[Mrpound]

So a few people here In the same boat purchased 2 chains on the 9th of July for the sum of £15 and I haven’t received them as of 19th July (I know the post is slow but not that slow) messaged seller with no reply.

I’ve bought from him before and took a few days longer than expected but this is beyond a joke assuming that I will receive them at all.

but the title has been changed a few times so I’m sure he’s been online and ignored everything.

I also hope nothing serious has happen to the member 🤞 if it has I wish him the best.

 

[Charliemouse]

In the interest of transparency...

I understand that he was travelling, and I got the impression is not normally in UK.

He also used "a friend's" bank account details.

Is it possible that his account was hacked?  There are obvious security concerns with this alone, plus he may have people's address information.

[MikeG1978]

OK from the look of things we have been done 

I may report it now to my bank as fraud

As Chris said not really worth diddling people for a few quid 

If I am wrong then fair enough but this is going to affect me buying off anyone I don't know

It may be unless a long time member I will want delivery before payment 

[ChrisSilver]

After looking into this further:

Before the weekend, we received an email from a Gary claiming he has lost access to his account. However, there is also suspicion to believe that this account may be linked to a previously banned forum member.

TSF was contacted by a ‘Gary’ stating that they had lost access to their account details as well as their email account as their phone broke. And they were emailing form a friend’s email account. They stated that they wanted to rectify the situation as soon as possible.

I had advised them that if they no longer had access to their email they would need to create a new account to contact the buyers.  They did not get back to me with their name and address, despite a follow up email being sent.

They are still yet to respond.

I have just now sent a further follow up email to the asking them to urgently contact the buyers, by creating a new account if needed and letting us know of this new account’s username.

In the meantime you may wish to contact your banks to see if they can reverse the money and mark it as fraudulent. There has been another member who had successfully done this with another seller (who is also now a banned member) and managed to get a refund as the items they paid for did not arrive.

I have also linked below to some basic checks to do when trading and advise to follow these if possible to try to reduce risk as much as possible. 
 

 

 

[Burgur5352]

Hi, my friend is Extremely sorry. 
 

his phone broke and he didn’t know where to send the items. 
 

he tried to get a job to pay for a new screen but has fallen short. I’ve now made an account so you can let me know the details and I will pass them on. 
 

I apologise on his behalf.

thanks. 

[MikeG1978]

Can this account be trusted with my details though I am a little dubious now 

[Charliemouse]

5 minutes ago, HelpingHands said:

 

I hope this is genuine, and if so I wish him/them all the best.

Some sensible advice to people here:

• You should verify that this new account is genuine and represents the original, before providing personal information.  I suggest asking for the bank account details that were originally used.
• Obviously, you should transfer no more funds.

[HelpingHands]

7 minutes ago, MikeG1978 said:

Can this account be trusted with my details though I am a little dubious now 

I suppose you need to balance that with how much you have tied up.

What I can say is the email address for Burgur is the same as what Gary contacted TSF on claiming the account was lost

And is the same IP address as Gary listings

[ChrisSilver]

@Burgur5352 I have merged your topic into this topic here. As it is the original trade topic here it will be easier to deal with it here.

[Mrpound]

Trying to verify if @Burgur5352is who he says he is 👍

[MikeG1978]

I don't know what to do or say I would love my items but am anxious giving out more details to a new account 

 

[Burgur5352]

There is No Scammer. 
 

it was an unfortunate event. 

[Mrpound]

I am unsure also but he has the correct bank details, what we doing here guys 🤣

[Burgur5352]

2 minutes ago, Mrpound said:

I am unsure also but he has the correct bank details, what we doing here guys 🤣

Trusting someone who is trying to help. 

[James32]

3 minutes ago, Burgur5352 said:

There is No Scammer. 
 

it was an unfortunate event. 

Completely possible and hope Gary is OK and on better ground soon.

Try and see it from the buyers perspective though, they have felt unnerved for days and a new account popping up with who they have never spoken to or dealt with before is obviously going to appear sketchy at best.

I applaud you for reaching out and trying to get this sorted, might be best to get Gary to come on though and do the talking?

This is in no way a direct challenge towards you ,like I say you are only trying to help.

Maybe ask Gary to issue refunds? Then he can try again when better able.

[Charliemouse]

Just now, Mrpound said:

Trying to verify if @Burgur5352is who he says he is 👍

🙄 My post got lost in the merge.  Trying again...

Assuming this is genuine, we wish him/them all the best.

If all is well, the person in control of the Burger5352 account has the bank account, a list of transactions, and the goods.  But they don't have accounts and addresses to match.  This is personally what I'm going to do:

1. PM the account, asking for the bank details originally given to you.  This should confirm the account side of things.
2. Then provide them with the agreed price and a transaction code or reference.  This identifies you and what you bought.
3. If they haven't already packed it, you could also ask for a new photo, with proof of date, of the item.  This confirms they have the item.

That should allow them to send the goods to the right place.

[Burgur5352]

I’m going to let him sign into his bank account on my laptop and check his bank account, then we can figure out the people paid and see if he can send the money back. 

[jamesyh]

For what it's worth...

I've bought off "Gary" a couple of times with no issues 

[Burgur5352]

Just now, jamesyh said:

For what it's worth...

I've bought off "Gary" a couple of times with no issues 

He is a good guy, his phone broke and he didn’t know what to do. 

[Charliemouse]

4 minutes ago, Burgur5352 said:

I’m going to let him sign into his bank account on my laptop and check his bank account, then we can figure out the people paid and see if he can send the money back. 

Hi.  I hope you and he are well.

Is the intent to refund people, or to complete the transaction and send the goods?