Unknown Johnson Matthey 1oz Bar

[Monty51]

Hello Members,Acquired this bar recently but cannot find it on Allengelhard listings,only with a Serial Number and mine doesn't have one.Any info. appreciated.

[sixgun]

Well it certainly looks like the one on allengelhard.com - one of a small number of possible prototypes - except yours didn't get a serial number. Interesting piece.

Edited July 14, 2022 by sixgun

[Monty51]

Hello Sixgun,Thanks,Yes,that was the nearest match I could find so have sent email to AE but no reply yet.

[sixgun]

If you have provided decent images you might get your bar mentioned on the site.

[Monty51]

I might try to sell it first,then send AE the images.I will see if I get a reply first.

[sixgun]

Well i would get it on allengelhard first - it will be someone else's bar once sold.

[Monty51]

Am giving it a whirl on Internet Auction Site to see if any interest.

[HGr]

On 14/07/2022 at 20:58, sixgun said:

Well i would get it on allengelhard first - it will be someone else's bar once sold.

Absolutely do this please, so it can be documented for other collectors in years to come 

[Mrpound]

Im assuming this is it 🤣

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/165578230965?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=62-2x1mET3W&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=Fds2QRZsTKm&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[Dakaras]

17 minutes ago, Mrpound said:

Im assuming this is it 🤣

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/165578230965?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=62-2x1mET3W&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=Fds2QRZsTKm&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Blimey that's beyond optimistic! I saw 3 of these on the saleroom a few weeks ago. I stopped at £30 a bar Inc fees went way beyond that! 

[James32]

Reach for for stars guy's 

25 minutes ago, Mrpound said:

Im assuming this is it 🤣

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/165578230965?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=62-2x1mET3W&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=Fds2QRZsTKm&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

 

6 minutes ago, Dakaras said:

Blimey that's beyond optimistic! I saw 3 of these on the saleroom a few weeks ago. I stopped at £30 a bar Inc fees went way beyond that! 

 

[dicker]

I an pretty uncertain that this bar was created in “London”.  I think it might be more likely that this was produced in the USA.

JM got out of the gold and silver refining business in about 2014, and shifted their Royston (Hertfordshire) plant away from silver and gold refining to platinum and other chemistry.

Happy to be wrong but I think that they only had casting facilities at Royston….it’s a BIG plant.   

[Mrpound]

Did this actually sell for £450 I have to know? 

Edited July 17, 2022 by Mrpound

[sixgun]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Unknown-Variant-1oz-Johnson-Matthey-Silver-Bar-999-Minus-Logo-and-Serial-Number-/165583269590

[Happypanda88]

Who tells the newbies to buy coins and not bars !! 🤔

[Mrpound]

5 hours ago, sixgun said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Unknown-Variant-1oz-Johnson-Matthey-Silver-Bar-999-Minus-Logo-and-Serial-Number-/165583269590

EBay trying to give me FOMO 🤣

[Happypanda88]

I don't see the attraction in an old 1oz silver bar. What's so special about it ?

Why not buy 25oz of generic silver bullion coins or bars for the asking price !?

[Mrpound]

2 hours ago, Happypanda88 said:

I don't see the attraction in an old 1oz silver bar. What's so special about it ?

Why not buy 25oz of generic silver bullion coins or bars for the asking price !?

Completely agree

[HGr]

4 hours ago, Happypanda88 said:

I don't see the attraction in an old 1oz silver bar. What's so special about it ?

Collectors gonna collect.

I would bid on an auction

[Happypanda88]

1 hour ago, HGr said:

Collectors gonna collect.

I would bid on an auction

....so that I know what people would pay for these type of bars, what would be your max bid ?

[HGr]

Well I don't want to say in case this goes to auction lol, but let's say its a lot less than £595. 

I hope OP isn't annoyed by this discussion, I know discussing prices in sale threads is frowned upon

 

[Mrpound]

3 hours ago, HGr said:

Well I don't want to say in case this goes to auction lol, but let's say its a lot less than £595. 

I hope OP isn't annoyed by this discussion, I know discussing prices in sale threads is frowned upon

 

Lucky for us this isn’t a sale thread 😜

[Monty51]

Sold for a little less than price shown to a Canadian collector.One of the rarest JM 1oz bars in existence and should show on Allengelhard shortly.

[Happypanda88]

On 19/07/2022 at 01:10, Mrpound said:

Lucky for us this isn’t a sale thread 😜

Would anyone here on TSF be willing to pay upto 38 times the spot price for an old albeit rare 1oz silver bar ? 🤔

 

[Happypanda88]

7 hours ago, Monty51 said:

Sold for a little less than price shown to a Canadian collector.One of the rarest JM 1oz bars in existence and should show on Allengelhard shortly.

Great stuff !  I have learnt something new about old rare silver bars from this thread.