Can anyone ID this hammered coin

[Dan12345]

Hi all I'm new to this forum. Been collecting for a while. 

Today I found what I think is a hammered coin. I've been parking in the same car park all week and today this coin was just sitting by my door which was very strange. I can't seem to Id it so was hoping you guys/girls could help.

There is some letters on the back which I think are DREX ELDRE but I may be wrong there is letter around the edge on the front but I can't work out what they are.

[Dan12345]

[HawkHybrid]

https://www.silburycoins.co.uk/product/kind-of-wessex-alfred-the-great-silver-penny-cross-lozenge-type-871-899ad/

 

HH

[Dan12345]

Wow thanks for that. Can't believe it was just sitting on the floor. Gardeners had done some there the day before so may be they dug it up

[Dan12345]

Does anyone know if it has any value

[badar]

Congratulations on the find, I dont want to get your hopes up too high but on google when u search for the site @HawkHybrid listed, the coin was previously listed at £25,250.00 

Rarity on numista is at 100 which is rarest possible score. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces102737.html

I'm sure someone more knowledgable will come along soon. However, i think you might've struck gold here.

[Dan12345]

52 minutes ago, badar said:

Congratulations on the find, I dont want to get your hopes up too high but on google when u search for the site @HawkHybrid listed, the coin was previously listed at £25,250.00 

Rarity on numista is at 100 which is rarest possible score. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces102737.html

I'm sure someone more knowledgable will come along soon. However, i think you might've struck gold here.

Thanks for the reply, well let's hope so be like winning the lottery lol

 

[HawkHybrid]

2 hours ago, Dan12345 said:

Does anyone know if it has any value

 

https://www.museumreproductions.co.uk/shop/viewitem.php?productid=1565

 

there are many reproductions of rare coins. until an expert verifies it by hand, I would be

inclined to believe that there's every chance of it not being an original.

maybe try an ancient coins shop?

 

HH

[Dan12345]

I will see if there's any shops near me. Looking at the original coin pictures and the reproduction Ones it does look more like the original and I'm sure it's real silver. Will get it looked at 

[Midasfrog]

Can you show a picture of the coins thickness ? that will be a big clue to see if its a copy or not . Hammered coins are very thin , yours does look a bit on the heavy side also it has what looks like the remains of a pouring sprue on the flan from the molding process , hammered coins were not made in a mold.🧐

[Midasfrog]

The Fitzwilliam museum will confirm if its genuine they record single medieval coins that are found 👍 

[Midasfrog]

Dr Martin Allen is the expert 

his email address is mra25@cam.ac.uk 

if you send some good close up pictures with a white background he should be able to help 👍

he is one of the leading experts in early medieval coins 

[Dan12345]

27 minutes ago, Midasfrog said:

Can you show a picture of the coins thickness ? that will be a big clue to see if its a copy or not . Hammered coins are very thin , yours does look a bit on the heavy side also it has what looks like the remains of a pouring sprue on the flan from the molding process , hammered coins were not made in a mold.🧐

It's is quite thin and has a tiny feel to it weighs 1 gram. Does have a ruff edge, none of the edges are perfect

Edited July 9, 2021 by Dan12345

[Midasfrog]

Might be the real deal , dont try any cleaning plus they are very fragile due to the age of the silver 👍

[Dan12345]

15 minutes ago, Midasfrog said:

The Fitzwilliam museum will confirm if its genuine they record single medieval coins that are found 👍 

Thanks I'll look that up

[Dan12345]

5 minutes ago, Midasfrog said:

Dr Martin Allen is the expert 

his email address is mra25@cam.ac.uk 

if you send some good close up pictures with a white background he should be able to help 👍

he is one of the leading experts in early medieval coins 

Thanks for that I'll drop him an email tomorrow

[Midasfrog]

1 minute ago, Dan12345 said:

Thanks I'll look that up

He is very helpful and will get back to you quickly good luck keep us updated 👍

 

[Dan12345]

Thanks for your help I'll keep you posted on what the out come is 👍

[Tn21]

Belongs to the state 👀

Edited July 9, 2021 by Tn21

[Booky586]

14 minutes ago, Tn21 said:

Belongs to the state 

Why does it belong to the state?

Edited July 9, 2021 by Booky586
Typo correction

[Midasfrog]

23 minutes ago, Tn21 said:

Belongs to the state 

Single "loss" coins dont come under the Treasure act , if there are several coins found in the same spot then it has to be recorded. 

But the land owner should be informed as technically it is his to decide what do with , keep , sell or 50/50 split . There might be more coins in the area . So its always very wise to tell the owner and he will likely give permission to run a metal detector over the area 👍

[Tn21]

Good to hear thanks @Midasfrog

[dicker]

Fascinating - do let us know your progress!

Best

Dicker

[Midasfrog]

Any news back from the Fitzwilliam museum 🧐

[dicker]

Hi Dan

How did you get on with your remarkable find?

Best

Dicker