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Not bad for under spot price - another mega deal from @kneehow2018
 

Not bad for under spot price - another mega deal from @kneehow2018
 

Not bad for under spot price - another mega deal from @kneehow2018
 

Not bad for under spot price - another mega deal from @kneehow2018
 

Not bad for under spot price - another mega deal from @kneehow2018
 

i didn't call the Zimbabwean dollar hero - i said Zimbabwe was the breadbasket of Africa - now people are scratching around and going hungry. 
The breadbasket (hero) has gone to zero (and hence so has its currency).
You just don't get it - we can go back and forth about this all day and each side will dig their trenches a little deeper. i have experienced the economic roller coaster in England. i use history and experience. Time will prove one of us more correct - Deagel.com says they used publicly available documents and make a prediction - not my prediction but before the end of the 2020's England will not be anything like it is today - hope you are alive to see the changes.
 

The United Kingdom joined the EEC in 1973 - everything progressed (regressed) as planned. The vast majority of people just can't see it and just don't get it.

i didn't call the Zimbabwean dollar hero - i said Zimbabwe was the breadbasket of Africa - now people are scratching around and going hungry. 
The breadbasket (hero) has gone to zero (and hence so has its currency).
You just don't get it - we can go back and forth about this all day and each side will dig their trenches a little deeper. i have experienced the economic roller coaster in England. i use history and experience. Time will prove one of us more correct - Deagel.com says they used publicly available documents and make a prediction - not my prediction but before the end of the 2020's England will not be anything like it is today - hope you are alive to see the changes.
 

The older people also remember the times when things became bad and how quickly they can become bad - i remember at college eating the school dinner - the mash potato - our staple food - it tasted bad. There was no salt for the potato, it had run out. Nothing was moving in the country. I remember the power cuts and the 3 day week. The lights would regularly go out at night. Today the country does not generate enough electricity - it is imported from France. We have centuries of coal but that would cause the climate catastrophe. i remember queues at petrol stations - i remember shortages of foods. All these things happened like a light switch. i have lived these things in England, so no-one can tell me it is bonkers. i have had times when i was well off - really well off - even rich - then i have known times when i wouldn't answer the door - when i was in jeopardy of losing everything. These things happened and they can happen more quickly than we realise. The same can happen for nations. The elite intend this to happen - it is agenda 21 - agenda 2030. Agenda 2030 - that is 11 years away - that's when the world will end in climate catastrophe - there is no coincidence in that.

No its isn't an exaggeration - the UK produces half its food - granted some will be exported so it would be higher than 50% if it were all kept in the country but that is a massive food deficit.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/food-statistics-pocketbook-2017/food-statistics-in-your-pocket-2017-global-and-uk-supply
i suppose you are of the Marie Antoinette school of thought - let them eat cake (although she almost certainly didn't say cake) - let them eat potatoes (except with all the spud bashing there wouldn't be enough). The UK is overcrowded. We are not back in wartime Britain when the population was much smaller. My grandad grew his own vegetables, kept chickens - it was usual for someone to keep a pig - this was all commonplace. It is very rare these days - the vast majority do not have a clue - many kids think milk comes from the shop not from cows. 
Come on you do not get magically increases in food production - the farmer plants his potatoes - they take a season to grow - prices shoot up - he cannot magically have planted twice as many spuds. You don't get multi-generational changes reversed in a matter of weeks or even several years. So no the food production of the UK did not shoot up. i grew up in the country - i was surrounded by farmland - i worked on farms. My brother has worked all his life in poultry. You can increase production - they have to import more feed for the poultry - hmmm import more feed - and increase the breeding side - that takes time - then you need more sheds for the birds - so no production cannot be turned up just like that like the volume on an amplifier.
You said "What happened when brexit hit and the pound plummeted so that imports were expensive?" - so you recognise a fall in the relative value of GBP. What is happening in Venezuela following the economic war the US is carrying out? What has happened in other countries - Zimbabwe - the breadbasket of Africa - people scratching around to survive and the currency goes to zero. There are many places in many times places have gone from hero to zero. 
The traitors in the UK have destroyed the industrial base. There is an over reliance of 'service industries'. The value of GBP has fallen like all fiat does - just more than many - we see this in the value of GBP against gold. There has been a campaign of mass immigration to permanently alter the makeup of the country. There are so many more people on the islands. The country is no where near self sufficient in food. Then there is an economic collapse. Then we get deeper into the Grand Solar minimum - which is happening despite kids bunking off school to demonstrate, despite Greta saying we will all perish in an inferno due to man made carbon dioxide. Crop production in many parts of the world has been poor this year. The Chinese have had big problems. Sh1t can happen so much faster than most people imagine.
i didn't write the webpage - i find it alarming and excessive but at the same time i know such changes are quite possible. 

I disagree that those opinions are only held by people over 50. I think the reason why many people over 50 hold such views, is because they have much more experience in life, and remember times when younger ones were not yet alive... which means they only know about that which they have experienced... hence ignorance is bliss. They are not aware that life could be any better or easier than it currently is.... but fact of the matter is that real living standards used to be much higher in the West. 

The older people also remember the times when things became bad and how quickly they can become bad - i remember at college eating the school dinner - the mash potato - our staple food - it tasted bad. There was no salt for the potato, it had run out. Nothing was moving in the country. I remember the power cuts and the 3 day week. The lights would regularly go out at night. Today the country does not generate enough electricity - it is imported from France. We have centuries of coal but that would cause the climate catastrophe. i remember queues at petrol stations - i remember shortages of foods. All these things happened like a light switch. i have lived these things in England, so no-one can tell me it is bonkers. i have had times when i was well off - really well off - even rich - then i have known times when i wouldn't answer the door - when i was in jeopardy of losing everything. These things happened and they can happen more quickly than we realise. The same can happen for nations. The elite intend this to happen - it is agenda 21 - agenda 2030. Agenda 2030 - that is 11 years away - that's when the world will end in climate catastrophe - there is no coincidence in that.

The country is not great. It is a shadow of its former self. In 1931 one pound was a gold sovereign. They contain 7.32g of gold - at £1216 an ounce that is £286. So in 1931 the pound was worth 286 x more than today. That's 0.35% of the value in 1931. The currency has gone to rat sh1t. A great many are in call centres (that haven't been sent to India or elsewhere) - stacking shelves, driving a van, patrolling the streets looking for people dropping litter, parking at the 'wrong' place at the 'wrong' time. A great many people are not intrinsically bright enough to do higher function jobs. It is a fact of life - society doesn't work in ways that work for a huge slice of the people - they are left to skivvy or collect the government GIRO. Many men who had productive jobs are degraded and end up working at B&Q or some other place. How often have you heard about the redevelopment of a factory into a hotel, leisure, retail blah blah complex. A consumer economy - but there must be production to pay for consumption - it cannot run of credit forever.
i remember on the news they had the export - imports of the country. We always exported more. It isn't on the news anymore. There is a massive imbalance in trade. It is sustained with credit. What happens when the financial collapse comes - it is a mathematical certainty - when the GBP is worth less than the 0.35% it provably is now? The situation is unsustainable. 
It is call normalcy bias. People don't accept, they don't see what is coming - it is not bonkers talk - it is not fear mongering - it is plain and simple mathematics. Other people, foreigners are financing the food on Joe Public's plate and the TV hanging on his wall through the credit they extend. To import more than is exported means more debt - that debt has been growing for decades. Eventually no more credit is given and it is repossession time. So many people are a few paychecks away from the street - it is shocking. That is the way it has become.

No its isn't an exaggeration - the UK produces half its food - granted some will be exported so it would be higher than 50% if it were all kept in the country but that is a massive food deficit.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/food-statistics-pocketbook-2017/food-statistics-in-your-pocket-2017-global-and-uk-supply
i suppose you are of the Marie Antoinette school of thought - let them eat cake (although she almost certainly didn't say cake) - let them eat potatoes (except with all the spud bashing there wouldn't be enough). The UK is overcrowded. We are not back in wartime Britain when the population was much smaller. My grandad grew his own vegetables, kept chickens - it was usual for someone to keep a pig - this was all commonplace. It is very rare these days - the vast majority do not have a clue - many kids think milk comes from the shop not from cows. 
Come on you do not get magically increases in food production - the farmer plants his potatoes - they take a season to grow - prices shoot up - he cannot magically have planted twice as many spuds. You don't get multi-generational changes reversed in a matter of weeks or even several years. So no the food production of the UK did not shoot up. i grew up in the country - i was surrounded by farmland - i worked on farms. My brother has worked all his life in poultry. You can increase production - they have to import more feed for the poultry - hmmm import more feed - and increase the breeding side - that takes time - then you need more sheds for the birds - so no production cannot be turned up just like that like the volume on an amplifier.
You said "What happened when brexit hit and the pound plummeted so that imports were expensive?" - so you recognise a fall in the relative value of GBP. What is happening in Venezuela following the economic war the US is carrying out? What has happened in other countries - Zimbabwe - the breadbasket of Africa - people scratching around to survive and the currency goes to zero. There are many places in many times places have gone from hero to zero. 
The traitors in the UK have destroyed the industrial base. There is an over reliance of 'service industries'. The value of GBP has fallen like all fiat does - just more than many - we see this in the value of GBP against gold. There has been a campaign of mass immigration to permanently alter the makeup of the country. There are so many more people on the islands. The country is no where near self sufficient in food. Then there is an economic collapse. Then we get deeper into the Grand Solar minimum - which is happening despite kids bunking off school to demonstrate, despite Greta saying we will all perish in an inferno due to man made carbon dioxide. Crop production in many parts of the world has been poor this year. The Chinese have had big problems. Sh1t can happen so much faster than most people imagine.
i didn't write the webpage - i find it alarming and excessive but at the same time i know such changes are quite possible. 

For the Deagel website prediction they say they use data from publicly available sources. So i take it, it is not a simple invention. This is a contentious prediction especially with respect to the USA. This is why there is the text at the bottom of the page - don't blame us - we are simply reporting what is in the tea leaves.
It is a few countries that it predicts will collapse in 6 years time (not 20 years) - i see the USA but the UK is horrendous. These are the axis of the Anglo-America cabal - to a large extent a big chunk of the Western 'Deep State'. Both nations were industrial nations which are now a shadow of their former selves. i remember Thatcher harping on about we were switching to a service economy, that the City would generate the wealth of the nation etc etc. My thinking is these are soft jobs - they can be dispense with very quickly - these people are generally unfit for hard times and physical graft - they would not do well in the economic collapse that is coming when fiat comes down. Many on the silver forum are here b/c they recognise fiat is coming down.
Russia is a massive country with massive resources, China and India are large population and area - they have resources of manpower and or materials. i remember my grandma had a vacuum flask in her pantry. It had a cork top which was a bit worn and she put grease proof paper round the cork. It was pretty 'tinny' but if it worked in those day it would be used until it could no longer be repaired and then another use would be found. It was made in China. It was about the only thing i had seen that came from China which is why i remember it from childhood. China had little to no contact with the West. Russia was behind the Iron Curtain - indeed Eastern Europe was behind the Iron Curtain. You might see the odd product - i remember some really excellent jam from Poland but nothing else - a few crappy cars perhaps. So there was a big chunk of the world that might as well not exist. Europe, the British Empire and North America carried on and were prospering. The Communist states were in relative poverty. Let's flip this over - no reason the roles could not be reversed. The manufacture and materials are in BRICS nations - the UK is an industrial bombsite - North Sea oil is not what it was - the coal mines are closed....... If the USD collapsed the USA is so indebted its ability to buy from abroad is significantly reduced. The UK has so many people - not enough food - not enough productive capacity - there would be mass migration out of the islands or starvation. The predictions of the website are possible - quite possible even if it is hard to consider at this time.
This website has nothing to gain by fear mongering - it is about military hardware and expenditure. Countries have collapsed, they have gone from prosperity to destitution - it has happened it will happen. It is something to consider - forewarned could be forearmed. 

The Communist revolution was a Western coup - revenge on the Czars by the Rothschilds. Those behind the coup were hand picked by the banking elite. 
Yeltsin was an alcoholic - Lord of the Drinks. He reigned during the 1990's - this was a terrible, terrible time in Russia. Russia was collapsing - a good path towards a vassal state of the usual suspects. 

The Belt and Road is the master plan for the coming years. Germany is certainly turning towards the East - building plants in Russia - starting towards integration into the Belt and Road. Russia was a hell hole post dissolution of the USSR - people were starving. The country was devoured by the likes of Abramovich. The US sanctions hurt Russia but alternatives were formulated. The sanctions have hurt the EU - a lot of agricultural produce was exported to Russia. Significant attempts were made to destroy the ruble. Naturally Russia has distanced herself for the USD - in reality she does not have any Treasuries and a lot less USD. Both China and Russia have massive gold reserves - massive - far larger than the official numbers. 
Russia works hand in glove with China. This pair are the rival to US hegemony. We are not going to hear anything good about this pair - funnily enough we don't hear anything good about Russia and China. The controlled media project the bad guy role which rotates between them. Whilst Western powers waste $trillions on war and the military industrial complex - banking cabal steals whatever is left, Russia and China are building positive relationships around the world, creating systems outside the Western banking USD system.
The conclusion of this is obvious. i see the Deagal.com 2025 forecast (Western military website) puts China, India and Russia in the top three countries for GDP in 2025. http://www.deagel.com/country/forecast.aspx - i see Russia is ahead of Finland.
The site says The majority of the economic and demographic data used in the making of the forecasts is widely available by institutions such as the CIA, IMF, UN, USG, etc.
Something horrible is in store for the UK - the population is projected to collapse and the relative income of the people to fall to less than a quarter of the current amount. The implosion seems too much but i have wondered looking out the car window whilst travelling around - what are people doing? - how are people making money? i remember a time when British industry was very active and saw it gutted by mad cat strikes, incompetent management, under investment and entry into the Common Market. 

The Communist revolution was a Western coup - revenge on the Czars by the Rothschilds. Those behind the coup were hand picked by the banking elite. 
Yeltsin was an alcoholic - Lord of the Drinks. He reigned during the 1990's - this was a terrible, terrible time in Russia. Russia was collapsing - a good path towards a vassal state of the usual suspects. 

The Belt and Road is the master plan for the coming years. Germany is certainly turning towards the East - building plants in Russia - starting towards integration into the Belt and Road. Russia was a hell hole post dissolution of the USSR - people were starving. The country was devoured by the likes of Abramovich. The US sanctions hurt Russia but alternatives were formulated. The sanctions have hurt the EU - a lot of agricultural produce was exported to Russia. Significant attempts were made to destroy the ruble. Naturally Russia has distanced herself for the USD - in reality she does not have any Treasuries and a lot less USD. Both China and Russia have massive gold reserves - massive - far larger than the official numbers. 
Russia works hand in glove with China. This pair are the rival to US hegemony. We are not going to hear anything good about this pair - funnily enough we don't hear anything good about Russia and China. The controlled media project the bad guy role which rotates between them. Whilst Western powers waste $trillions on war and the military industrial complex - banking cabal steals whatever is left, Russia and China are building positive relationships around the world, creating systems outside the Western banking USD system.
The conclusion of this is obvious. i see the Deagal.com 2025 forecast (Western military website) puts China, India and Russia in the top three countries for GDP in 2025. http://www.deagel.com/country/forecast.aspx - i see Russia is ahead of Finland.
The site says The majority of the economic and demographic data used in the making of the forecasts is widely available by institutions such as the CIA, IMF, UN, USG, etc.
Something horrible is in store for the UK - the population is projected to collapse and the relative income of the people to fall to less than a quarter of the current amount. The implosion seems too much but i have wondered looking out the car window whilst travelling around - what are people doing? - how are people making money? i remember a time when British industry was very active and saw it gutted by mad cat strikes, incompetent management, under investment and entry into the Common Market. 

If 'no-one knows' the economics in Russia then no-one can comment on them. That 'no-one knows' the economics is not a reason for Russia to buy gold - nor China. Russia is reported as being one of the few countries that is not in a net deficit. Many nations in the West are in reality bankrupt. Those are the economics.
i take it your hometown is in Finland or is it Russian?
Do Russians pay their bills with USD and go to the shops and pay in USD?
i would often buy French cheese when i was in England and now buy English cheese in Spain. 
i hear repeated from Western sources that US warships have been turned off by electronic jammers - There were several reports that many of the missiles in the last allied air strike on Syria were jammed and didn't go off or missed. Perhaps that is fake news - everything in the Western media is fake news so it would be like for like.

The Fed has been pushing USD into the banking system over the last few days b/c the Saudis withdrew funds following the oil refinery attacks. There was already a liquidity shortage b/c the US Treasury is issuing large amounts of Treasuries but foreigners don't want them - foreigners have not been buying US debt for several years. The bonds are left on the books of the underwriting banks which is soaking up dollars and they are struggling to get rid of them. The combination of the two has resulted in a shortage of cash - the Fed invented $billions at the click of a mouse, at a keystroke to ease the situation. This is a sticking plaster - foreigners are not financing the US debt and there is increasing de-dollarisation.  

There are quite a few factors in play. The ECB was supporting US Treasuries - this recently stopped. Foreigners aren't buying Treasuries and in reality haven't been for several years - they are now in reality junk bonds. Treasuries are still selling but the cash to buy them is being sucked out of the US financial system, which causes a liquidity problem. Then something else crops up like the Saudis pulling cash out of the banks following the oil refinery attacks and Houston we have a problem. 
The US government has become completely unaccountable with FASAB 56 - "national security concerns now override the need for public financial transparency"  The missing $21 trillion or however much it really is, can no longer be questioned. The need to pull the curtain over the accounting books suggests it has been done to hide wanton criminality and a system teetering on the edge of the abyss.   https://www.thesiriusreport.com/economics/fasab-56-dollar-us-treasury/
All the data is fake - this is not the greatest ever economy. It is one that was gutted and ran on credit - credit the world is no longer willing to provide.
Shale oil is bankrupt and declining - the banks having put $2 trillion in - where did those $trillions come from? 
i hear US based pundits talking - they are in denial, paid to talk sh1t or under a delusion imagining the USD will go on forever. The Petro-dollar is dying - rapidly. Russia has de-dollarised - sanctions achieved that. Putin intends to destroy the dollar. Saudi is selling increasing amounts of oil in EUR and CNY. Russia is buying oil from Iran in EUR and then reselling it.
Once upon a time the US would introduce democracy with regime change when states did not play ball - not been very successful lately - we see the absolute failure of a coup in Venezuela - right in America's backyard. Venezuala is under Russian and Chinese control. Iran is in the same fold. Iran controls a big slice of Iraq. Saudi is turning East and will break free. Trump says he has rebuilt the US military - it is the strongest in the world. The best in does is guard poppy fields. Russia is untouchable - Putin has warned the US it could be incinerated in 30 minutes - Russian technology is decades ahead - the expensive US defence system the Saudis bought didn't do them much good - Putin has offered the Saudis the S400 and security. The Russians have turned US warships in floating junk - caused them to crash into other ships - every ICBM could be triggered as their nose cones come out of the silos - America could incinerate itself - no need for the hypersonic Russian missiles that sit off America's coastline. 
The US can no longer bully the world to use the dollar and the world is at an accelerating rate avoiding the dollar. The Petro-dollar will die and with it the fuel that enables the Western cabal to wreck havoc. 

1000 tonnes inflows of gold on paper - do these inflows of gold and silver actually take place? For example with SLV and GLD? Doubtful.

Some of the latest 100g bars from @BackyardBullion

Sorry you are absolutely correct - i keep doing this - i think in minting units which are 100g - my mistake. 
i don't know if you are on the Telegram thread - there is a lot of chatter on there - there is some KAU/KAG being minted - so some is being bought - a few KVT's being sold - some ETH changing hands. Generally very quite - there was a site login problem last night which got sorted. We have a stack of suggestions coming from the Ambassador's thread. The Community forum is now open to the public - a separate website set up over a year ago. There is some interesting bits and pieces there. https://kinesis.community/
Glad the start is slow and gradual - it will allow the teething problems to be sorted before the debit card is released and the roll out begins and there really is 6.2 tonnes.